Gorilla put down after boy falls into its habitat

JS19

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lirl just saw the mothers FB post, sorry god had nothing to do with your son still being alive.

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My only question is this. If they were willing to shoot the gorilla, can we assume that the gorilla was a good distance away from the child? I can't imagine a scenario where they would be willing to fire bullets at the animal if the child was only 5 or 10 feet away.
 

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My only question is this. If they were willing to shoot the gorilla, can we assume that the gorilla was a good distance away from the child? I can't imagine a scenario where they would be willing to fire bullets at the animal if the child was only 5 or 10 feet away.

Apparently the child was under the gorilla when it was shot.
 

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Apparently the child was under the gorilla when it was shot.

That's what I don't get, either.

They didn't want to shoot a tranq at the gorilla out of fear that it would fly into a rage and injure/kill the child.

But shoot live ammunition at it, with the kid right nearby? No problemo!

Hell, what if the shot caused the gorilla to collapse onto the kid.

I don't know if any kid could survive being crushed by a 400-poound gorilla (about 10x the weight of an average four-year old).
 

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That's what I don't get, either.

They didn't want to shoot a tranq at the gorilla out of fear that it would fly into a rage and injure/kill the child.

But shoot live ammunition at it, with the kid right nearby? No problemo!

Hell, what if the shot caused the gorilla to collapse onto the kid.

I don't know if any kid could survive being crushed by a 400-poound gorilla (about 10x the weight of an average four-year old).

Unlike what you see on TV shooting a tranq into an animal doesn't immediately drop it. It takes a while for the effect to kick in, during which the animal will be extremely agitated because someone just shot it.
 

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Wait....so to prove their point that the innocent and peaceful gorilla was brutally shot, there is now an app where you play the role of the gorilla on a rampage, and your goal is to kill the zoo official?

Ok then.
Why are you assuming this was made by someone who condones the actions of the zoo? It's made by some game developer who's capitalizing on recent events. That's an insanely bizarre assumption to make and there's nothing in CycloneLaunch's post that insinuates that at all.
 

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Why are you assuming this was made by someone who condones the actions of the zoo? It's made by some game developer who's capitalizing on recent events. That's an insanely bizarre assumption to make and there's nothing in CycloneLaunch's post that insinuates that at all.

On the contrary; I was speculating that the app was created by someone who felt the ape was inhumanely killed, and therefore created a "revenge" game featuring the ape. Which, as I pointed out, was not the best route to take.

If someone who condoned the actions of the zoo created that app, I'm willing to bet it would be the other way around, like "shoot the ape before he escapes", or something.
 

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The parents are now under investrigation.


from globalnews.ca:

Police said Tuesday they are investigating the parents of the 3-year-old boy who fell into a gorilla enclosure at the Cincinnati Zoo and had to be rescued by a team that shot the 400-pound animal to death.

Authorities said the investigation will look at the parents’ actions leading up to the incident — not the operation of the zoo, which is overseen by the U.S. Department of Agriculture. Police will then confer with prosecutors over whether charges should be filed, Hamilton County Prosecutor Joe Deters said.

The incident has triggered a furor online, with some saying the boy’s mother should be charged with child endangering, while others want the zoo held responsible for the animal’s death.

Separately, USDA said it will investigate Saturday’s incident for any violations of the Animal Welfare Act.

Zoo authorities said the unidentified boy climbed over a 3-foot-high railing, walked through bushes and plunged about 15 feet into a shallow moat. The zoo’s dangerous-animal response team killed the gorilla as it dragged the boy through the water, authorities said. The boy had only minor scrapes on his head and knee, according to police.

Ohio State University criminal law professor Ric Simmons said he doubts a charge of child endangering could be proved in this instance, since the offence typically involves leaving a youngster unattended for an extended time, not a case of a child momentarily wandering off.
 

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Mike Francesa talks about the Gorilla Incident in the Cincinnati Zoo
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Exactly. Kids are curious by default

Parents should have done more to stop him but whatever

Gorilla DRAGGED THE KID

You have been heard and I still think you are way off base on this. It's a caged animals, so I'm not sure what else you expected it to do.

The zoo should have done better about not making it possible for anyone to get into the cage, and the parents should have been more aware of what their kid was doing.

In no way is this the gorilla's fault. Yes he dragged a kid, but WE also took him out of his natural habitat, caged him up, just so that we can show him off to people who don't have anything better to do than to stare at trapped, slaved, animals.
 

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You have been heard and I still think you are way off base on this. It's a caged animals, so I'm not sure what else you expected it to do.

The zoo should have done better about not making it possible for anyone to get into the cage, and the parents should have been more aware of what their kid was doing.

In no way is this the gorilla's fault. Yes he dragged a kid, but WE also took him out of his natural habitat, caged him up, just so that we can show him off to people who don't have anything better to do than to stare at trapped, slaved, animals.
Are you aware kids can escape their parents sight?
 

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Are you aware kids can escape their parents sight?

I am, but I'm also aware that when you are in an environment where you pay to see 'wild & dangerous' creatures, aka ZOO, that you could keep a closer look on them.

News is saying that the parents are under investigation, it'll be interesting to see what the actual story was behind this whole thing.
 

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On the contrary; I was speculating that the app was created by someone who felt the ape was inhumanely killed, and therefore created a "revenge" game featuring the ape. Which, as I pointed out, was not the best route to take.

If someone who condoned the actions of the zoo created that app, I'm willing to bet it would be the other way around, like "shoot the ape before he escapes", or something.
I meant to write condemn and either wrote it wrong and my iPhone autocorrected it to condone or I was paying no attention and wrote the wrong thing.
 

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Not if the parents are holding the kid's hand, or better yet, make use of a harness. Do that, and this never would have happened.

/thread

I'm amazed people are okay with saying "you know kids can leave your sight?" Mistakes will inevitably happen, but you need to keep a much closer eye on your kid in Zoos.
 

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News playing the audio of the 911 calls placed by Mom and other bystanders

Very chilling to hear the mom freak out and tell her son to be calm
 

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News playing the audio of the 911 calls placed by Mom and other bystanders

Very chilling to hear the mom freak out and tell her son to be calm

And there are reports of the child continuously yelling about how he is going to jump in with the gorillas. Should have been watching in the first place.
 

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