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GDT: Gold Medal Game - May 22 - Finland vs Canada - Part II

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Buttsy said:
As for what country reigns supreme here is my thought: we should all enjoy the parity we have right now because very soon it will look like the Olympics where the U.S. will take the Gold and everyone else will battle for the rest. The U.S. really are poised to take over and be the best of the best for several years to come. Look what they already have (this team was basically a college team) and wait until this summers NHL Draft. If they lack anywhere it's "top shelf coaching" and they can buy that from Canada.

Hats off to the Boys, have one last get together and head home for summer.
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What?

The US isn't close to the roster that Canada has now and isn't close to producing the level of young talent that Canada is producing either.

How exactly are they going to blow past everyone when they don't look like they will even pass or get close to Canada?
 
TygeBrahe said:
I don't tell about statistics. I tell about skill of play. And for me Datsyuk - is the best.
Dats can all. Absolutely. He is good in defence, he is good in offence. No Ovechkin, no Crosby, no Lemieux - for me = number one. I saw NHL from 1994 year. Only Pavel Datsyuk.
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Datsyuk has amazing hands and started late in a less scoring Era but Mario lemieux is in the conversation for top 3 players all time.

Like it or not even if you look fancier the better player still puts up more points.
 
TygeBrahe said:
I don't tell about statistics. I tell about skill of play. And for me Datsyuk - is the best.
Dats can all. Absolutely. He is good in defence, he is good in offence. No Ovechkin, no Crosby, no Lemieux - for me = number one. I saw NHL from 1994 year. Only Pavel Datsyuk.
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Dats isnt even a top 10 player in the history
 
Seanaconda said:
Datsyuk has amazing hands and started late in a less scoring Era but Mario lemieux is in the conversation for top 3 players all time.

Like it or not even if you look fancier the better player still puts up more points.
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If Datsyuk was 10-15 years older, he'd be a potential 160 points man in the early 90's NHL
 
TygeBrahe said:
Nobody cares. And i don't think that this Canada team was weak. Very, very strong team. And who are "best players"? Maybe only keepers you can add. But field players were great.
We had best players: Ovechkin, Dats, Mozyakin, Anisimov, Kuztetsov, Bobrovskiy...Dit it help us?
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Well not a single player who has been named to the World Cup team was there.
 
Scotty B said:
Ok how about this?...When's the last time team Russia/ Dats et al. won a Best on Best competition?
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Man, i don't tell that Detroit and Russia - are the best teams. Сonversely. Best champions teams - are good coach team. And Dats - only one player. Russia has good players but has not good coaches. But I was, now and will the fan of DRW. In my city in Russia was the first NHL game is NJ - DRW is shown in TV . 0:4 there we lost in 1995. Since that time i am fan of Red Wings.
 
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Hap said:
You mean a potential 160 points for his career because no way is he scoring 160 points a season in any era.
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If Bernie Nicholls could score 150.... then I can see Datsyuk scoring 160+ pts in late 80s.

Depends on a team Datsyuk would play for.
 
TygeBrahe said:
If you don't know - Datsyuk is very modest human. He never tries to be a star. For this we love him.
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He tries to not win?

You don't need to be selfish to get points - assists count.

Why would he outscore Gretzky or Lemieux?
 
Hap said:
What?

The US isn't close to the roster that Canada has now and isn't close to producing the level of young talent that Canada is producing either.

How exactly are they going to blow past everyone when they don't look like they will even pass or get close to Canada?
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In 2010 Crosby scored in OT to give us the Gold Medal against? I mean their not that far behind are they? They are projecting 7 first rounders in 2016 plus the 7 from 2015 and the 5 from 2014. So they are producing at the top level. The OHL Champion London Knights are at the Memorial Cup with 8 roster players and 2/3 of perhaps one of the best all time junior lines made up of Americans. Next it is disappointing to watch our Canadian Hockey Registration on the decline while the U.S. seems to be on the rise? Heck nobody throws up at the sound of Brian Burkes name more than I but I'm just saying I believe the gap continues to close and it was already pretty close to begin with? IMO anyway......
 
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SpeedDemon said:
I can't believe how fixed that game was/. McDavid's goal shouldn't have couldn't. Firstly, He bumped Koskinen and secondly, there 3 canadiens in the crease when the goal was scored. How much were the refs paid to look the other way on that??
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A buck 27 American.
 
TygeBrahe said:
Let's wait for the final. And I want to see Dats, Ovechkin, Kuztetsov, Anisimov, Tarasenko, Kucherov, Mozyakin, Malkin, Vasilevskiy, Bobrosvkiy,Makarov? Can Canada did so great team?
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Not a bad 11, but Canada can and has matched and beaten it before. In a single game anything can happen, but history has Canada as the top team. Will they be knocked off? Maybe, but it's yet to happen.
 
I think Datsyuk could hit 130-160 points in the 1980s NHL.

What makes Datsyuk so respected isn't just his offence though, he's excellent on defence. We're going to miss the Magic Man in the NHL.
 
snipes said:
I think Datsyuk could hit 130-160 points in the 1980s NHL.

What makes Datsyuk so respected isn't just his offence though, he's excellent on defence. We're going to miss the Magic Man in the NHL.
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In the 80s? Sure. Definitely not in the early 90s when it was only Gretzky and Lemieux.
 
snipes said:
I think Datsyuk could hit 130-160 points in the 1980s NHL.

What makes Datsyuk so respected isn't just his offence though, he's excellent on defence. We're going to miss the Magic Man in the NHL.
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Just imagine Datsyuk as an Edmonton Oiler of the 80s....
 
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