jellybeans
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Give it up rules are rules Canada is the world junior champions please stop whining its getting pathetic.
GDT: Gold Medal Game: Canada Vs Russia | 1:00PM EST 7PM CET
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In your right mind, do you expect that of every thread here? Even championship ones? Sheesh, people jump in, not all were in the original timezone for this or that.
Gold Standard
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Ronnie Residue
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Naw, they had a 3-1 lead in third then absolutely collapsed. It was actually impressive.
I’m a sharks fan so I know a good collapse when I see one haha
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The "best team" doesn't always win, just like the "best team" in the NHL (President Trophy) doesn't always win the Stanley Cup. Plus it's very subjective.. Canada won the gold medal. I think that's the best medal of the tournament. The camera was part of the game, just like the refs sometimes when a puck hit them and create a weird/lucky scoring chance. That's hockey.
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In 2011. One of the Russian TV channels was showing a replay of the 2011 final on the same day (while the 2020 final was shown on another channel) and one of the Russian “celebrities” (a soccer player) congratulated the Russian hockey team with winning the championship on his Instagram account. A comical situation indeed.
scotian1
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Why? It's fun, I can't get over how many think Russia would have automatically scored on the 6-3 when Canada could have just as easily won the ensuing face off flipped the puck over everyones head and scored in the empty net, stranger things have happened...lol
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on the one hand, these people look like complete morons, but on the other, if I did not follow the hockey and performances of the national team, I would also not know that playoff games at a tournament of this level are always broadcast only on the first channel.
Anyway that victory deserve to be celebrated after 10 years, so that football player did everything right
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How many times does this need to be talked through? The rule has been already explained multiple times:
-IIHF rules say that if the puck hits a structure, no penalty is given. It makes zero difference whether the puck is/would have/should have gone out of the rink; the rule is written like that in order to simplify things and create less controversy.
-The rinks are inspected before every game by a referee team and the definition of a "structure" is decided already at that point. Cameras etc. that are attached to rink structures are commonly decided as such structures.
I don't understand how this is so hard for people to comprehend.
Also, is this seriously the only thing in the game left to write ifs and buts? Usually during a hockey game there are like 20 situations where IF the puck had gone an inch here or there it WOULD have made a difference (usually resulting in a goal).
Anyway, great game and congratulations Canada! The right teams were in the final, could have gone either way.
Czechboy
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The glass is definitely a part of the rink structure. The pole is a part of the camera structure. Eg. Camera doesn't work without the pole/unipod. The unipod is located outside the rink. It's now on a plane to Toronto and the rink/glass is still standing. TSN has said they setup the camera on purpose out if the rink to avoid this kind of situation. I imagine a new rule will come specifically for the TSN camera.
As far as structures above... I imagine it's a general rule for low hanging rafters or something like that. Doubt the rule has been used once.
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This is the first time I've heard the refs got together before the game and said if it hits the camera it won't be a delay of game because the camera is a structure. Did you see this in a tweet, interview? Posting that would shut everyone up!
jj cale
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Is this still going on?
It's over, Canada is the 2020 World Junior Hockey Champions. You will get another chance next year.
It's over, Canada is the 2020 World Junior Hockey Champions. You will get another chance next year.
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Seachd
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You’re really reaching here. “Structural” isn’t defined by whether something will collapse if something else isn’t there.
As mentioned numerous times in this thread, most notably by Rönn, the cameras attached to the glass were identified as part of the rink before the tournament started.
This isn’t some referee conspiracy theory. People are getting all hung up on the rulebook, which obviously wasn’t specific enough for some people. That’s why this exact type of situation was identified pre-tournament.
It’s really not difficult to understand.
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So we have the head official in Liiga who has been an IIHF sanctioned ref for years including world championship finals saying that the right call was made because the camera is considered structure, we also have the rulebook saying hitting any structure over the ice isnt a penalty, we also have a picture showing that the camera does in fact hang over the ice but we still have people in here saying it should've been a penalty.
Like I said earlier, theres a lot of people bitter their country still cant catch Canada in hockey and are grasping at straws to downplay this gold medal. With all of these facts out there now if youre holding onto your view youre just plain old biased. The controversial call should be the Hayton holding the stick penalty that Russia actually scored on.
Like I said earlier, theres a lot of people bitter their country still cant catch Canada in hockey and are grasping at straws to downplay this gold medal. With all of these facts out there now if youre holding onto your view youre just plain old biased. The controversial call should be the Hayton holding the stick penalty that Russia actually scored on.
Czechboy
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He's spewing bs, sickening how many "experts" are unable to just post THE REFEREE'S SCREWED UP".
Russia had a crap pp and probably don't score anyway but still what a ballsup in such a crucial time.
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Damn, who was that Canadian player that hit me with the puck? It hurt like hell.
But to clear up some massive confusion, Yes I am part of the play and therefore when that little shite hit me with the puck, it was NOT a penalty......though as it hurt so much he does need some discipline.
But to clear up some massive confusion, Yes I am part of the play and therefore when that little shite hit me with the puck, it was NOT a penalty......though as it hurt so much he does need some discipline.
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Seriously? Like I said, right here in this thread. Uutta: MM-finaalin visainen tilanne ei ollut suomalaistuomarien virhe – Kanadalaiskamera torjui kiekon ja pelasti Kanadan
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Because the referees made the right call. I understand it’s hard to wrap your head around that when you’re blind with rage, but that’s what the rules say. And the referees followed those rules.
You’re welcome to argue it if you’d like, but you haven’t provided one actual point yet in all of your terrible posts in this thread.
I believe the interpretation was that since the camera is attached to the glass, the camera became part of the glass, hence no penalty.
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