GDT: Gold Medal Game: Canada Vs Russia | 1:00PM EST 7PM CET

[kp61c]

Oh Russia...

it'd be nice to see these posts.

 

[DuklaNation]

This is the first time I've heard the refs got together before the game and said if it hits the camera it won't be a delay of game because the camera is a structure. Did you see this in a tweet, interview? Posting that would shut everyone up!

They do this in Major League baseball guaranteed.

 

[ItWasJustified]

Amazingly. despite a very clear pic... people will still say that the camera was part of the structure of the building.lmao

I can't stress enough, **** happens and Russia lost because of a really bad 5 minute span of mistakes:
1. Look at the amazing Akil goal again, Goalie needed to step up
2. the stick slash was stupid.. same penalty got called in first (where, coincidentally, about 500 Canadian fans posted that Russian's need to hold their stick better)
3. chasing a guy with a broken stick is not the best play
4. They had a 3-1 lead

Having said all that. Canada scored 3 in the third and it was amazing to watch. They won the gold fair and square... the missed call (and it was a missed call) is not why Russia lost. At BEST.. and absolute best, it's why Russia did not score on a 6 on 3 to tie the game. We'll never know.

The broken stick.. awful luck
The camera.. bad call by refs
The Gold medal... good for Canada, they overcame a lot of adversity.

but the camera call was a ****up! Even the TSN guys like Hodge and Lu (posted earlier by me) are taking the piss out of it.

I agree with everything you wrote.

Are you able to understand written word or are you too internet raged to understand that rink structure means a camera attached to the plexi?

 

[dwdl21]

He's spewing bs, sickening how many "experts" are unable to just post THE REFEREE'S SCREWED UP".
Russia had a crap pp and probably don't score anyway but still what a ballsup in such a crucial time.

The IIHF has stated they discussed the cameras "Before" the tournament started and decided then that they would be out of play, so sorry if you are still hurt by it but the refs made the right call.

 

[jj cale]

Oh, I really don’t care, just that the Canadians are always have huge double standards

EVERY teams fans have double standards when to comes to stuff that positively or negatively affects their teams and you damn well know it, no need to imply that it exists in just one countries fans.

I get it, you and others hate it when Canada wins but they won, but Canada is going to win in hockey quite a bit, you and they should be used to it by now and not go so bitter and sideways all the time when they do, you have had more then enough trial runs to get comfortable with it.

 

[dwdl21]

This is the first time I've heard the refs got together before the game and said if it hits the camera it won't be a delay of game because the camera is a structure. Did you see this in a tweet, interview? Posting that would shut everyone up!

Nope, they are now saying the puck was out before it hit the camera and that is when the penalty should have been called so hitting the camera shouldn't have mattered,

 

[wacko2]

The IIHF has stated they discussed the cameras "Before" the tournament started and decided then that they would be out of play, so sorry if you are still hurt by it but the refs made the right call.

And no confirmation of supposed discussion of course. Because it didn't happen.
Not all of us Canadians are blind my friend.

 

[dwdl21]

And no confirmation of supposed discussion of course. Because it didn't happen.
Not all of us Canadians are blind my friend.

Yeah I can't find it, you are probably right.

 

[wacko2]

Russians had a very good team but management needs to address the mediocrity of the powerplay and it's erratic goaltending this year.

 

[McGuillicuddy]

If the camera indicent was a "blown call", the penalty to Hayton that lead to Russia's 1st goal was similarly inexplicable. Live by the sword, die by the sword. You can't cry foul about the camera without similarly recognizing that Russia caught a break that lead to the first goal. It all evened out as far as I am concerned.

 

[Hunter368]

Congrats to Canada!

 

[dwdl21]

If the camera indicent was a "blown call", the penalty to Hayton that lead to Russia's 1st goal was similarly inexplicable. Live by the sword, die by the sword. You can't cry foul about the camera without similarly recognizing that Russia caught a break that lead to the first goal. It all evened out as far as I am concerned.

None of this really matters anyway, the camera didn't give up 3 goals in 8 minutes and if I'm not mistaken were they not still on a power play after the non call? All they had to do was clamp down and play but they didn't they choked and we won, simple as that.

 

[jj cale]

If the camera indicent was a "blown call", the penalty to Hayton that lead to Russia's 1st goal was similarly inexplicable. Live by the sword, die by the sword. You can't cry foul about the camera without similarly recognizing that Russia caught a break that lead to the first goal. It all evened out as far as I am concerned.

They don't do that, they never have double standards

 

[Czechboy]

Seriously? Like I said, right here in this thread. Uutta: MM-finaalin visainen tilanne ei ollut suomalaistuomarien virhe – Kanadalaiskamera torjui kiekon ja pelasti Kanadan

I'm sorry, I don't read Finnish. Is this a post from the Finnish ref in the game? Rene Fasel? An IIHF official at this tournament? Someone from Ostrava?

 

[newfy]

I agree with everything you wrote.


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You agree with everything he wrote. I agree with everything the head official wrote about it being the right call. The guy that has officiated world championships or Czechboy... who do you think has the better grasp on how this rule is supposed to be applied?

Also, youre posting a picture that literally shows parts of the camera hanging over the ice which means it was the right call by the wording in the rulebook

Bury your head in the sand some more though because a couple other posters also have their head buried with you

 

[Czechboy]

Is this still going on?

It's over, Canada is the 2020 World Junior Hockey Champions. You will get another chance next year.

Of course Canada won the gold. They were awesome. Beautiful comeback which they are the kings of. The only big 5 team they didn't beat was Sweden (they never played them). I was very happy for them. Best team over 60 minutes won. If someone is mad that Russia didn't win gold, then they should probably look at the series of mistakes leading to them being down by a goal before the camera incident. Might want to look at some really bad decisions after the camera incident too. No question. Laf is going to be a 100 point player.

 

[Seachd]

I'm sorry, I don't read Finnish. Is this a post from the Finnish ref in the game? Rene Fasel? An IIHF official at this tournament? Someone from Ostrava?

Rene Fasel? An IIHF official at this tournament?

Yeah, I guess if it’s not one of those, it has to be a scrub at HF we need to believe, right? There’s nothing in between?

You were given the answer you’re looking for. You just refuse to believe it, based on... nothing, as far as I can tell.

 

[wacko2]

Rene Fasel? An IIHF official at this tournament?

Yeah, I guess if it’s not one of those, it has to be a scrub at HF we need to believe, right? There’s nothing in between?

You were given the answer you’re looking for. You just refuse to believe it, based on... nothing, as far as I can tell.

He's a "scrub". He's been respectful through this whole charade, all he wants is this so called proof that teams were informed that the camera was part of the arena structure.

But since they were not informed proof will never come will it??

 

[Talus]

In addition, the KHL is undoubtedly cleaner than the NHL.

The IIHF directly conducts regular anti-doping testing in the KHL. Meanwhile, drug testing in the NHL is virtually non-existent.

each team does comprehensive testing on their players.

 

[Lou Lamoriello]

The better team won, plain and simple.

 

[Czechboy]

Rene Fasel? An IIHF official at this tournament?

Yeah, I guess if it’s not one of those, it has to be a scrub at HF we need to believe, right? There’s nothing in between?

You were given the answer you’re looking for. You just refuse to believe it, based on... nothing, as far as I can tell.

I'm not the one saying the refs got together before the game and deemed the camera a part of the structure. I'd just like to see that proof that it happened. It's being stated like a fact, show me. All I have is an article not in English by someone who wasn't at the game (I think? Who wrote the article? Where they in OStrava? Were they part of the ref meeting to determine this?).

I do have TSN saying they purposely put the camera out of way to avoid this. Ferrero says it during the telecast. McKenzie says it after and calls it a lucky call. I posted John LU and Dave Hodge from TSN making jokes about the camera as well.

I do wonder if there will be a statement today about it from the IIHF or tournament officials? Like I say.. it'd shut me up real fast!

I do agree Canada should've won though. I've said that repeatedly.

 

[The Lemonheads]

Oh Russia...

Why am I not surprised.

 

[Jussi]

I'm sorry, I don't read Finnish. Is this a post from the Finnish ref in the game? Rene Fasel? An IIHF official at this tournament? Someone from Ostrava?

Uskomaton sattuma pelasti Kanadan MM-finaalissa – suomalaistuomareita haukuttiin täysin turhaan

SM-liigan erotuomarijohtaja Jyri Rönn vahvistaa Ilta-Sanomille, ettei Kansainvälisen jääkiekkoliiton IIHF:n turnauksissa sääntökirjan mukaan tuomita rangaistusta, jos kiekko osuu kentän yläpuolella oleviin rakenteisiin, kuten kameraan tai tulostauluun.

Rönn vielä lisää, että kisakaukalot käydään tarkasti läpi ennen jokaista turnausta.

– Areenoilla on aina kameroita, mikrofoneja ja muita tukirakenteita. Ne käydään joka kerta erikseen läpi ja päätetään mitä tapahtuu, jos kiekko osuu johonkin niistä. Näihin kameroihin osumisesta ei pitänyt tuomita rangaistusta, joten tuomarit toimivat täysin oikein.

Rönn kertoo varmistaneensa asian Jukka Pakaslahdelta, joka työskenteli turnauksessa otteluvalvojana. Jos kiekko olisi lentänyt suoraan katsomoon, rangaistus olisi tuomittu.

Liiga head of officiating Jyri Rönn (a former referee with experience from several World Championships) verifies to Ilta-Sanomat that in IIHF tournaments a delay of game penalty won't be called if the puck hits structures above the rink such as scoreboards or cameras.

Rönn adds that rinks are inspected in detail before every tournament.

- Arenas have always cameras, microphones and other structural elements. They're inspected before every tournament and decided what happens if the puck hits one of them. The puck hitting these cameras should not have been reason for a penalty, so the refs made the right call.

Rönn says he verified the issue with Jukka Pakaslahti, who worked as a match official in the tournament. Had the puck gone straight into the stands, a penalty would have been called.

 

[Seachd]

I'm not the one saying the refs got together before the game and deemed the camera a part of the structure. I'd just like to see that proof that it happened. It's being stated like a fact, show me. All I have is an article not in English by someone who wasn't at the game (I think? Who wrote the article? Where they in OStrava? Were they part of the ref meeting to determine this?).

I do have TSN saying they purposely put the camera out of way to avoid this. Ferrero says it during the telecast. McKenzie says it after and calls it a lucky call. I posted John LU and Dave Hodge from TSN making jokes about the camera as well.

I do wonder if there will be a statement today about it from the IIHF or tournament officials? Like I say.. it'd shut me up real fast!

I do agree Canada should've won though. I've said that repeatedly.

For the third time, this link was in this thread. Put there by a Finnish poster, who explained everything. You’re very welcome to read it. It’s right there.

You keep asking for proof, when everything is pointing right to it. From a person working with TSN, to a a quote from a member of the IIHF Officiating Committee, to the fact that a penalty wasn’t called.

How much more clear does it need to be? And in the face of all this evidence, why is your default reaction to deny it all? What are you basing it on? Where’s your proof that none of this matters and a penalty should have been called?

 

[ItWasJustified]

You agree with everything he wrote. I agree with everything the head official wrote about it being the right call. The guy that has officiated world championships or Czechboy... who do you think has the better grasp on how this rule is supposed to be applied?

How often does referees or organizations admit they were wrong? It almost never happens unless it's so clear that they have to. Now they had this rule that is there to make sure the there's no penalty in the unlikely event that the puck hits the rafters or the loudspeekers to bail them out, so they can say that a cmera is a structural part of the rink. Newsflash: it's not.

Also, youre posting a picture that literally shows parts of the camera hanging over the ice which means it was the right call by the wording in the rulebook

I've already posted pictures that with 100% certainty shows that the camera was outside the ice when the puck hit it.