GDT: Gold medal game CAN-RUS part 2

[TerminatorBlue]

Did anyone think Malkin was way too emotional...almost pissed off?

Ovechkin also kinda looked mad when Malkin shot the puck and didn't pass to him, I think they broke them up next shift. I'm starting to think there might be friction between players in the room.

 

[Guardian17]

That was an impressive win for Canada.

So quick on the puck.

 

[Beau Knows]

Did anyone think Malkin was way too emotional...almost pissed off?

Ovechkin also kinda looked mad when Malkin shot the puck and didn't pass to him, I think they broke them up next shift. I'm starting to think there might be friction between players in the room.

They certainly don't have any chemistry together. There have been rumors about issues with them off the ice for years, but I had heard they had buried the hatchet a while ago.

 

[Macman]

Kudos also to Prague and the Czech people. It looked like soooo much fun. The next time there's a tournament in Prague, I'm there.

 

[BlitzSnipe]

Did anyone think Malkin was way too emotional...almost pissed off?

Ovechkin also kinda looked mad when Malkin shot the puck and didn't pass to him, I think they broke them up next shift. I'm starting to think there might be friction between players in the room.

Yeah, I think they have some kind of rivalry going. The Russian players are individuals, and that is their greatest weakness when they play against highly organized teams. They have been quite bad in recent years in playing as a team - sticking together, each man doing their duty. Very disappointing to lose like this. To think that we once had such a great team that could actually beat Canada, as in 2008 and 2009. Man, this is a wake up call for Russian hockey. Something has to be done.

 

[Bowski]

Bure basically dragged them to the GMG in Nagano, didn't he?

Bure knew how to get his team in the game. The only reason I drew a comparison, was to show how a Russian superstar would settle a game down by showing his dominance. If Ovechkin could put a stop to this side show early on, some other avenues might have opened.

But overall, they need to get away from the #71 sideshow. The real #71 had his, Ovi has his, just go out and play a game against Canada without being embarrassed.

The coaching needed an overhaul soon after the disasters, now so does the roster. Can't have a perennial loser as your leader.

 

[Cellee]

He can in the World Championships if he's not still in the playoffs.

He doesn't want to play with the smaller countries he has been battling for legitimacy with for years, I reckon.

 

[BlitzSnipe]

you mean Kovalchuk as Russia's captain? He had a very bad game today, wiping out constantly, and causing a goal as well while he was at it. This was a ridiculous match for the Russian team, utterly terrible. We need a new generation of players to step up - individualists like Malkin and Ovechkin just can't seem to carry the torch any more. The closest thing to good old Soviet hockey are Panarin-Shipachov-Dadonov - all the other lines had nothing going for them.

 

[Beau Knows]

At least Malkin and Ovechkin looked like they were working hard when the ice opened up for them. Kovalchuk though was just horrendous.

 

[Cellee]

Did anyone think Malkin was way too emotional...almost pissed off?

Ovechkin also kinda looked mad when Malkin shot the puck and didn't pass to him, I think they broke them up next shift. I'm starting to think there might be friction between players in the room.

I think Malkin is hyper competitive, nothing more.

 

[Appleyard]

Honestly, i would like to see a World Cup with an 80's flavor.

Team Czechslovakia (combined Czech Slovak Squad)
Team Russia (with Belarus, latvia, Kazakhstan etc. combined)
Finland
Sweden
Canada
Deutchland (Germany / Switzerland)
USA

I think the best compromise to include as many of the best players in the world is a 5 team tournament according to the world map/peoples locations as of 999AD:

Over the end of the world (Canada & USA)

The Holy Roman Empire (Germany, Austria, Switzerland, Slovenia, Eastern France & Northern Italy (the Hockey playing regions coincidentally!) & A bit of the Czech Republic, Netherlands & Belgium.)

Bohemia & Moravia (Czech Republic & a lot of Slovakia... just before Slovaks annexed by Magyars.)

Kievan Rus (Western Russia (where 90% of the hockey players are from) Belarus, Latvia, Lithuania, Ukraine, Romania, Moldova, Poland, some of Eastern Slovakia & Estonia, some of Finland.)

The Norse (Sweden, Norway, Denmark, Scotland, some of Ireland & Northern England, some of Finland... heck, lets pretend Finland was fully Norse affiliated in 999AD instead of just some settlements on the coast and islands. Oh, lets include the Maritimes (Vinland & Markland) as well to take some of the talent from Over the end of the World... heck, Crosby has a name with a Norse ending!)

 

[BlitzSnipe]

At least Malkin and Ovechkin looked like they were working hard when the ice opened up for them. Kovalchuk though was just horrendous.

Kovalchuk made some horrible errors in this game. Something needs to change in that Russian team if we want to win gold. Malkin, Mozyakin and Bobrovsky were trying to make a difference in this match,
the rest of the players just accepted defeat from the get go, it seems.

 

[tntkid]

Russia was stacked with pretty much every good Russian player in the world & they were not even in the game.

That Canadian team was even more dominant than the Olympic team that just took gold.

 

[jcbio11]

Honestly, i would like to see a World Cup with an 80's flavor.

Team Czechslovakia (combined Czech Slovak Squad)
Team former Soviet Union (with Belarus, latvia, Kazakhstan etc. combined)
Finland
Sweden
Canada
Deutchland (Germany / Switzerland)
USA

Bad idea. Also the hell? You put a bunch of European countries together and yet you kept Canada and USA separate. Team North America it is, together with the Mexicans.

 

[systemsgo]

Did anyone think Malkin was way too emotional...almost pissed off?

Ovechkin also kinda looked mad when Malkin shot the puck and didn't pass to him, I think they broke them up next shift. I'm starting to think there might be friction between players in the room.

Geno has a temper when playing, sometimes it works out, sometimes it doesn't. He's always been like that though, his teammates on the Pens call him the bully when he does that.

The Ovi and Malkin on the same line thing, Malkin and Ovi had both asked to not be on the same line last Olympics but the coach kept them together. So maybe that contributed? I think it was something about how they both want to carry the puck too much to play well together and lack of experience playing together. I think I heard of an interview with Gonchar in Russian where it was brought up as well as Geno and Gonch are good friends.

 

[Beau Knows]

Russia was stacked with pretty much every good Russian player in the world & they were not even in the game.

That Canadian team was even more dominant than the Olympic team that just took gold.

To be fair their defenders and offensive depth weren't as good. When they had chances they need to capitalize, so I will give credit to Ovi and Geno for getting some chances. Kovalchuk was the captain though and deserves a lot of blame for basically doing nothing.

 

[BlitzSnipe]

Russia was stacked with pretty much every good Russian player in the world & they were not even in the game.

That Canadian team was even more dominant than the Olympic team that just took gold.

Well, we were missing key players that could've made a difference - Radulov, Zaripov, Datsyuk, maybe even Kuznetsov, Kucherov, plus better defencemen like Emelin or Markov. But yes, it was surprising how outplayed that Russian team was. What I don't get is how the best Russian players can be dominant in their respective NHL teams, but when they play on the national team, nothing works?

 

[TerminatorBlue]

First of all I know they want to sell the game as much as possible with the superstars coming over and kudos to Ovechkin for wanting to play for his Country but I think they should stop teams from making anymore changes to the roster once elimination rounds start.

 

[Cellee]

First of all I know they want to sell the game as much as possible with the superstars coming over and kudos to Ovechkin for wanting to play for his Country but I think they should stop teams from making anymore changes to the roster once elimination rounds start.

Why?

 

[IHaveNoCreativity]

What were the final shots ?

 

[Canuck21t]

Well, we were missing key players that could've made a difference - Radulov, Zaripov, Datsyuk, maybe even Kuznetsov, Kucherov, plus better defencemen like Emelin or Markov. But yes, it was surprising how outplayed that Russian team was. What I don't get is how the best Russian players can be dominant in their respective NHL teams, but when they play on the national team, nothing works?

Coaching? Ovechkin was also most probably tired. He just came from a grueling playoff run.

 

[BlitzSnipe]

I have to agree - I just knew bringing Ovechkin in might mess up everything. Very bad idea by Znarok. Ovechkin has never played particularly well for the national team. We needed Emelin or Markov.

 

[Beau Knows]

I have to agree - I just knew bringing Ovechkin in might mess up everything. Very bad idea by Znarok. Ovechkin has never played particularly well for the national team. We needed Emelin or Markov.

They didn't look great in some of the other games either though.

 

[Canuck21t]

Did anyone think Malkin was way too emotional...almost pissed off?

Ovechkin also kinda looked mad when Malkin shot the puck and didn't pass to him, I think they broke them up next shift. I'm starting to think there might be friction between players in the room.

Malkin loves Crosby, not Ovechkin.

 

[Cellee]

I have to agree - I just knew bringing Ovechkin in might mess up everything. Very bad idea by Znarok. Ovechkin has never played particularly well for the national team. We needed Emelin or Markov.

How do you reject him? He answers the Bell for Russia every chance he gets. He never turns them down.