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GDT: Gold Medal Game • Feb. 23 • Sweden vs. Canada • Part IV

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zeykshade said:
Anyone have a clip of the shorthanded play from Jeff Carter (3rd Period) where he caused a turnover at the CAN blue line about 12' from the boards, blew through 2-3 Swedes and got caught at the faceoff circle by Karlsson who had skated from a dead stop on the opposite wall on the blue line? There's no one else who gets there in time to stop a shorthanded chance. Amazing speed.
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This.

Anyone hating on Karlsson is nuts. There's a reason he won the defenseman MVP.
 
SB164 said:
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Aww. Poor Tavares.
 
Canada's depth prevails. Sweden had a chance if they didn't have so many important pieces not playing. I agree that nations are becoming more equal, just look at Finland's play from this tournament. Canada made no mistakes and it would be a disaster for them not to win with those defense men.
 
Karlsson

His performance wasn't great but wasnt bad too. I don't know if it was the gameplan or what but Karlsson wasnt allowed to rush the puck in the first 2 periods. Then on the powerplay, nobody passed him the puck. He was completely ignored on the breakout.

I rarely saw Karlsson up the ice, maybe twice where he got caught.

But generally what caused the loss was an extremely slow Swede defense, really slow in their end and because of it it generated a slow transition through the neutral zone.
 
avalancher said:
Why is people saying Carey Price is best? Two shutouts yes but he's barely tested, not in this game or the usa game. In this game there's only one dangerous shot. This only prove numbers on papers do not tell who the best player/goalie is in real life. You can get 20 shots at you but if the shots are crap or your defense in front of you are world class it does not make you superb.

Btw, this may be the best Canada team I have ever seen in an Olympics, so I'm not particularly ashamed as a Swede. congrats to the silver boys.
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Never liked Price before but baby was he good. Sure he probably didn't need to make the superb saves that some of the other goalies did, but a .970 or so save % for the tournament - MVP numbers. Shutouts in the semi and final - how does that not warrant best tournament goaltender IMO.

That and Kessel as an allstart forward!!!!!!!! When are these guys that vote on this stuff not going to appreciate that number of goals/points isn't everything? Ridiculous as Subban winning Norris last year - theres a reason why Team Canada didn't even want to use him
 
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simplefan said:
His performance wasn't great but wasnt bad too. I don't know if it was the gameplan or what but Karlsson wasnt allowed to rush the puck in the first 2 periods. Then on the powerplay, nobody passed him the puck. He was completely ignored on the breakout.

I rarely saw Karlsson up the ice, maybe twice where he got caught.

But generally what caused the loss was an extremely slow Swede defense, really slow in their end and because of it it generated a slow transition through the neutral zone.
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When you have that kind of a defensive machine in front of you, lone ranger finesse tactics won't be effective. He isn't Bobby Orr.
 
If Sweden had H.Sedin, Zetterberg, Bäckström, Franzén, Hedman I bet there would be a real battle, this was really one-sided by the looks of it.. didn't even bother watching, teams' knew before who would win and who would lose.
 
mindfly said:
If Sweden had H.Sedin, Zetterberg, Bäckström, Franzén, Hedman I bet there would be a real battle, this was really one-sided by the looks of it.. didn't even bother watching, teams' knew before who would win and who would lose.
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Sure, but if we're playing "what if injuries weren't a thing", Stamkos and Tavares would be playing too.
 
neksys said:
Sure, but if we're playing "what if injuries weren't a thing", Stamkos and Tavares would be playing too.
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Stamkos and Tavares would be redundant on team Canada, those players for sweden are the top4 players that sweden has, 3 centers and a goalscoring winger and a top4 D. Those players would make a bigger impact on team sweden than those two would make for canada.
 
neksys said:
Sure, but if we're playing "what if injuries weren't a thing", Stamkos and Tavares would be playing too.
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Yeah but Canada has a much larger talent pool that can soften the loss of those players.

I get injuries, but losing your 3 BEST centres is tragic.
 
Beau Knows said:
I always knew he was a great goalie of course. But I didn't think he had the experience in big games, but it didn't matter. He was great, and Canada did a great job of limiting chances on him.
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I think that was the big question mark with Price. You have to expect that Price was on a very short leash and that Babcock would have replaced him at the first sign of shakiness.

Also great management by Babcock - I said it before that putting Price in as the starter was the best possible move. Knowing there is a guy right behind you who has won at all before, ready to take your spot, is either a huge motivator or a huge burden. Price showed he was up to the challenge.

On one hand, any one of Canada's 3goalies could have won in this tournament given the stifling defence, but on the other hand, full credit to Price for showing his ability to seize the reins.
 
mindfly said:
Stamkos and Tavares would be redundant on team Canada, those players for sweden are the top4 players that sweden has, 3 centers and a goalscoring winger and a top4 D. Those players would make a bigger impact on team sweden than those two would make for canada.
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Tavares was one of the best forwards out there at the time he got injured, and Stamkos would be Canada's best pure goalscorer ... I wouldn't say they're redundant by any means particularly with how Canada had trouble finishing their chances

I agree though that Sweden's injuries hurt them more because Canada has much superior depth
 
mindfly said:
Stamkos and Tavares would be redundant on team Canada, those players for sweden are the top4 players that sweden has, 3 centers and a goalscoring winger and a top4 D. Those players would make a bigger impact on team sweden than those two would make for canada.
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Um no? Tavares is the number 2 point scorer in the NHL this season, and Stamkos is the best goal scorer in the NHL since the last Olympics and one of the top point getters. Don't kid yourself, losing these two was a huge blow to our offense. You are right that Canada has great depth though, and the drop off really isn't as large as Sweden losing Zetterberg. Had Backstrom not taken Claritin he might have been able to play though (honestly kind of ridiculous that something like that isn't allowed). Don't know how much difference Henrik could have made given he hasn't played very well for the Canucks even when healthy.
 
simplefan said:
But generally what caused the loss was an extremely slow Swede defense, really slow in their end and because of it it generated a slow transition through the neutral zone.
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And this is why Brodin and Hedman should've been on the team. Both are great skaters.
 
Stephen said:
When you have that kind of a defensive machine in front of you, lone ranger finesse tactics won't be effective. He isn't Bobby Orr.
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True. On big ice, against this type of defense, an individual effort would be neutralized. So what could have beaten it? Actually winning faceoffs could have helped. Speed could have been generated in the neutral zone by quick passes in their own zone.

Karlsson on his own couldnt do anything because the forwards need to give him puck support.
 
7thOverdrive said:
Yeah but Canada has a much larger talent pool that can soften the loss of those players.

I get injuries, but losing your 3 BEST centres is tragic.
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That's the point. Canada is the deepest country and thus the best hockey country. Injuries are no excuse. No team is beating Canada with or without injuries, Crosby could be injured it wouldn't matter.
 
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