Confirmed with Link: [TBL/SEA/DET] Oliver Bjorkstrand, Yanni Gourde (75% retained), Kyle Aucoin, 2026 5th for Mike Eyssimont, 2026 1st, 2027 1st, 2025 2nd, 2025 4th

[Rschmitz]

Look at my sign up date friend.. I was the 2nd Bolts fan here. LOL

EDIT: er... 3rd. @Rschmitz AND @Hoek GOT ME BEAT, I remember them both from sunshine network boards pre-04 cup era, although I had a very different screen name those days.

Me and Hoek have been here since the 90’s, they forced everyone to re-register in 2002 when they adopted this new messageboard. We have seen some things.

What was your name back then?

 

[Wester]

I like Bjorkstrand and could see us playing him on either on either the 2nd or 3rd. I think Cooper's been proving recently you can play anyone with Hagel and Cirelli and still have a decent line. I'm going to assume he's plays on the 2nd though.

I haven't seen Gourde play since he left the team, but he's currently on the 40+ point pace he managed his first two seasons in Seattle. I really wish we could have kept Eyssimont and sent Gonzo down as I consider Eyssimont to be a more effective player than Chaffee, Girg or Gonzo.

Our bottom six still needs offensive help. I'd like to think we could bring Geekie back up, but he's not been lighting up in Syracuse so far. Half of our bottom six remains very unexceptional.

I hate that we gave up two firsts. Paying for retention instead of getting an additional player is kinda depressing. Most everyone thinks our draft picks are just tickets to the next cup round, but in spite of this trade, I only consider our cup window to be potentially reopening because of Vasy's play the second half of this season.

All that aside, I'm excited to see what Bjork can do for the offense and Gourde does for the bottom six.

How do you not pay for retention and then fit someone extra under the cap?

 

[Zwui21]

 

[AlwaysSunnyInTampa]

Julien Big Balls.... I love it

I thought more about it and I hope we trade for Maroon for the sheer sake of us being a blight upon the face of humanity again. I didn't think anyone could come close to that 2010 Canucks team but I'll be damned if our opponents didn't hate us as much. I don't care if all they do is whack an ankle after a whistle. I truly didn't understand how important all that "heel work" was until it won us Cups.

It breaks your opponent down

 

[AlwaysSunnyInTampa]

Lets see if these posters are still around in 3 years when this team has no assetts

God willing I'll be in Amalie opening night staring up at 2 more Cup banners and I'll be talking to my family and friends about how 21 will join 4 and 26 in the rafters along with 77, 86, 88, 91 someday. Talking about what the banner/mural/statue to Jon Cooper may look like one day. And the debate will be if Pointer is a HHOFer with the others. If we win 5 Cups, that's what happens. God knows we went to 4 finals with a lot of these guys already

What we stand to accomplish in the next 3 years in addition to our previous success of the last 12ish years has only really been done a few times since expansion. Your Montreal, Oiler and Islander dynasties and Detroit's 25 year run. Although I argue we are just more similar to Detroit than the actual dynasties. But it's more success than most teams see in 40 years

The kind of history we are talking about lives forever. And it's worth all the draft picks. All of them


That's what we are betting on. We just have to go and do it

 

[AlwaysSunnyInTampa]

Oh yeah. I forgot. If we win a couple more Chips, one day Channelside Drive will be named Jeffrey Vinik Way along with some schools

 

[The Macho King]

Lets see if these posters are still around in 3 years when this team has no assetts

Dude I've been around a long time. I'll be here.

Flags fly forever.

 

[JoVel]

I am such a HF newbie that this team has missed the playoffs just once during my stay here. But that was the exact season that I joined here, so am I not a gloryhunter after all? I'm not sure how this works.

 

[EmptyNetAssassin]

JBB paid 2 1sts for Hagel but he was RFA with a great contract not 5.5 million 30 years old

He isn't 5.5 million but 1/4 of 5.5 million. So approximately slightly less than 1.4 million per year.

This is an overpayment in my opinion, plain and simple. Instead of haggling over cost JBB got the player he wanted instead of getting a less ideal fit. This is what he does and if Bjorkstrand plays amazing here it’s worth every bit.

It would be an overpayment if we weren't in win now mode with an aging core and also we got 75% of yanni's money retained . Bjorkstad could be a great get or above aberage middle 6 winger on a decent contract or he could improve .

 

[Rschmitz]

Why are so many of you uncomfortable calling it in overpayment? It’s ok to admit that and still like the move for the team.

We grossly overpaid for Hagel too and it turned into the best trade in franchise history. It’s fine

 

[Zwui21]

Why are so many of you uncomfortable calling it in overpayment? It’s ok to admit that and still like the move for the team.

We grossly overpaid for Hagel too and it turned into the best trade in franchise history. It’s fine

Indeed.
Is it better to pay a higher price but get the exact fit of players you want to join your team, or you prefer not to overpay to the eyes of the public opinion but get some rentals that don't fit the mold of the team?

JBB in a single trade filled the 2RW hole and gave the team some much needed depth (while also getting back a player who's already used to Coop and the system and is gonna terrorize the opponents with his relentless style of play).

 

[DMXATF23]

Look at my sign up date friend.. I was the 2nd Bolts fan here. LOL

EDIT: er... 3rd. @Rschmitz AND @Hoek GOT ME BEAT, I remember them both from sunshine network boards pre-04 cup era, although I had a very different screen name those days.

‘04 crew checking in! I also found this place back in the golden age of Bolts boards - the Times, Sunshine Network and even think Boltprospects (sp) all had somewhat active boards that were worth a visit.

 

[RussianGuyovich]

heard someone was talking shit about reg dates

 

[HoseEmDown]

Why are so many of you uncomfortable calling it in overpayment? It’s ok to admit that and still like the move for the team.

We grossly overpaid for Hagel too and it turned into the best trade in franchise history. It’s fine

Can you show me the other offers for Bjorkstrand and Gourde so I can see if it's overpayment? It can't be an overpayment if there aren't other offers for the same things. We paid what Francis wanted for those pieces so that's the value. If teams were offering just one 1st and two 2nd's then we overpaid but there were no offers so we paid what we wanted to to get those players.

Same thing with Hagel, we paid what their GM was only willing to let him go for. And as you said it worked out great.

To break it down Gourde at 75% would go for a 1st + 4th(retention). Björkstrand a 1st + 2nd + Essimont(cap and contract). You can say Gourde isn't worth a 1st but i disagree. He may not be the best rental forward available but he has the best playoff resume. Monahan went for a 1st + 4th last year and he was coming off some bad years and injuries as well. No team is going to trade a top6/4 player under contract for next season for less than a 1st +.

 

[Felonious Python]

Lets see if these posters are still around in 3 years when this team has no assetts

We're here forever.

 

[HoseEmDown]

I would have been on the site sooner but I thought the internet was only for porn until 2010.

 

[DrMartinVanNostrand]

I am such a HF newbie that this team has missed the playoffs just once during my stay here. But that was the exact season that I joined here, so am I not a gloryhunter after all? I'm not sure how this works.

On January 23, 2017, we actually had the worst points percentage in the entire conference.

NHL Scores for January 23, 2017 | Hockey-Reference.com

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[More 2004]

Damn, I was on Sunshine Network boards lol

Is that still active somewhere? Archive? Screenshot?

Nah, unfortunately not anymore..

Me and Hoek have been here since the 90’s, they forced everyone to re-register in 2002 when they adopted this new messageboard. We have seen some things.

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What was your name back then?

it was hfgreg coincidentally.. nothing to do with HF boards.

 

[LTIR Trickery]

guentzel - point - kucherov
hagel - cirelli - bjork
chaffee - paul - gourde
glendenning - girgs


i think that JBB got really bad diarrhea during the first round of the draft one time and promised he'd never go through that experience again

I do wonder if Gourde ends up centering Bjork and Hagel at some point, he might be a great cleanup/setup guy for those two.

 

[LTIR Trickery]

Hahaha SFY you slick bastard. Many thanks.

Make no mistake, he gets paid in it too, but its nice having a partner.

reed wings sixth round draft pick.

damn, so we gave up 2 firsts, a second, and a fourth? woof

Yeah but no blue chip prospects, no roster players. I don't know if its true but heard something about the Tuch ask being Cernak+another roster and a pick, makes me curious.

 

[Major4Boarding]

Let the Infinity Ring of Orange Creamsicles burn your retinas… one last time

 

[LTIR Trickery]

My problem is that 5.4 million for 20 goal scorer is not a steal

Yes it is? What planet are you on? It isn't 2016 anymore.

God willing I'll be in Amalie opening night staring up at 2 more Cup banners and I'll be talking to my family and friends about how 21 will join 4 and 26 in the rafters along with 77, 86, 88, 91 someday. Talking about what the banner/mural/statue to Jon Cooper may look like one day. And the debate will be if Pointer is a HHOFer with the others. If we win 5 Cups, that's what happens. God knows we went to 4 finals with a lot of these guys already

What we stand to accomplish in the next 3 years in addition to our previous success of the last 12ish years has only really been done a few times since expansion. Your Montreal, Oiler and Islander dynasties and Detroit's 25 year run. Although I argue we are just more similar to Detroit than the actual dynasties. But it's more success than most teams see in 40 years

The kind of history we are talking about lives forever. And it's worth all the draft picks. All of them


That's what we are betting on. We just have to go and do it

"If not now, when?"

Make no mistake, Julien knows it too. Its a fickle business, you have a short shelf life as a coach or GM, so f***ing go for it.

 

[JoVel]

On January 23, 2017, we actually had the worst points percentage in the entire conference.

NHL Scores for January 23, 2017 | Hockey-Reference.com

NHL hockey scoreboard for January 23, 2017 and historical box scores on Hockey-Reference.com.

www.hockey-reference.com

I keep forgetting how bad we were at times, since the end of the season run put us just shy of a playoff spot.

 

[Hockeyville USA]

Getting here late cause I've been sick as f*** the past few days: I think we overpaid, but luckily did not give up Howard.

Would have preferred to give up Gauthier as opposed to an extra 1st, as I'm just not super high on Gauthier. Hey, if EG even becomes a Danault or Cirelli lite, that's awesome, just never been high on him dating back to when the pick was made (better players were on the board)

 

[OffBy1]

How do you not pay for retention and then fit someone extra under the cap?

I was just saying it sucks we're in the position where we have to spend a first rounds pick on retention instead of filling another hole in the lineup, like the ones we still have in the bottom six.