GDT: GM09 | Vancouver Canucks vs New Jersey Devils | Wed. Oct 30th | 7:40pm PST | SNP | Brotherly Hate

[Kryten]

Missed the first two periods. What's going on with this game?

Zajac, Elias and Brodeur are killing us

 

[biturbo19]

landon ferraro is... not as interesting as his dad

tbh his dad isn't even as interesting as most Canucks fans seem to think his dad is.

 

[Vector]

tbh his dad isn't even as interesting as most Canucks fans seem to think his dad is.

That’s…that’s not that works.

 

[cc]

Myers is a -3 and his stupid pinch in the first and subsequent goal against looks to have shattered silovs confidence and set the tone for the game

 

[valkynax]

Zajac, Elias and Brodeur are killing us

Don't forget Scott Stevens.

 

[Orca Smash]

Who gains the zone is something everyone focuses on because it's obvious, and it is an important part of a good powerplay. But at the end of the day...you can't coach good powerplay. The players themselves have to move around and organically create offense. It's every good powerplay. They've got guys who can do this.


For the Canucks...Miller is great on the PP but he's not very creative. Hughes is creative, but if he doesn't have anyone to work with organically, what's he supposed to do? He's moving around as the "QB" and the "Receivers" aren't working back to the ball or doing anything to help. And a lot of that is just...Pettersson has to be better. Plain and simple. If he's "on his game" on the PP...suddenly the whole thing works completely differently. It's got a third "pole" that draws defensive focus/PK box attention. And it stresses the PK in some many other ways. But instead, he's kinda sucking and standing around not doing much...even though he's obviously capable of far more.

Again thats kind of my point he is hands on regarding the powerplay unless something changed you can find articles about him running the powerplay all last season and he talks about it post game and what he wants changed and follow the practices on twitter where some cover his power play coaching...

You can argue the x's and o's of what you think but the point I am making he is hands on and he does not know what to do with it as I have said many times.

 

[Reverend Mayhem]

Who gains the zone is something everyone focuses on because it's obvious, and it is an important part of a good powerplay. But at the end of the day...you can't coach good powerplay. The players themselves have to move around and organically create offense. It's every good powerplay. They've got guys who can do this.


For the Canucks...Miller is great on the PP but he's not very creative. Hughes is creative, but if he doesn't have anyone to work with organically, what's he supposed to do? He's moving around as the "QB" and the "Receivers" aren't working back to the ball or doing anything to help. And a lot of that is just...Pettersson has to be better. Plain and simple. If he's "on his game" on the PP...suddenly the whole thing works completely differently. It's got a third "pole" that draws defensive focus/PK box attention. And it stresses the PK in some many other ways. But instead, he's kinda sucking and standing around not doing much...even though he's obviously capable of far more.

I've said this a million times and no one f***ing understands this.

You don't go 80% on the PP, the PP isn't a break, you don't go 98% on the PP, you go 100%. If you aren't hustling and moving ocassionally, all it is is keep away.

The players need to move their ass, or coaches need to make a system where they do. I don't care. It's f***ing annoying to watch.

 

[biturbo19]

Pettersson fell over again.

 

[Kryten]

Don't forget Scott Stevens.

I was hoping Hronek would be our Rafalski

 

[GranvilleIsland]

Despite all the things to complain about. You need at least 1 goal to win and the Canucks haven't reached that bar yet. No need for grand statements about this game or specific players in another month we'll have our answer.

 

[B-rock]

Myers is a -3 and his stupid pinch in the first and subsequent goal against looks to have shattered silovs confidence and set the tone for the game

Myers has been ass, which isn't really a surprise. He's never been the poster boy for consistency. That pinch was something else. Instead of going at the guy he decided to turn his tanker ass the other way colliding into a teammate as per his usual style.

 

[Another Empty Netter]

Zebulon having a tough time in bean town

 

[Bertuzzzi44]

Powerplay has let the team down big time this game, it’s been ugly lol yikes

 

[biturbo19]

Debrusk is a complimentary player that lacks high end skill and hockey IQ has always been a bit lacking. The beaming praise for a 40-50 pt player was always bizarre.

His advanced analytics were inflated by being linemates with some of the best hockey players in modern Bruins history. We really needed more high end game breakers this off-season, especially with Pete playing so pitifully.

I mean, if you ever thought Jake DeBrusk was gonna be a "gamebreaker" you were sorely mistaken. But he's proven repeatedly that he's capable of really good results with other good players. Which is pretty much the definition of a great complementary player.


The problem is...our supposed "line drivers" aren't really doing as much of that as they should. Or as much as like...Spinny Garland does.

 

[Reverend Mayhem]

Despite all the things to complain about. You need at least 1 goal to win and the Canucks haven't reached that bar yet. No need for grand statements about this game or specific players in another month we'll have our answer.

The best thing you can take from this game, is absolutely nothing.

 

[Kryten]

What a breakdown lol bunch of puck watchers

 

[Reverend Mayhem]

I was hoping Hronek would be our Rafalski

Hronek is the true lemon of a contract.

 

[mriswith]

It's not like many people on this board were talking about the Canucks defence all offseason or anything.

If random HF posters could see the issue, idk how management missed so hard.

Best free agent crop for dmen in a decade and we landed VD and Forbort, and extended Myers. Lol.

 

[bbud]

Hronek is the true lemon of a contract.

Whole f.kin team of lemons tonight

 

[Bertuzzzi44]

Powerplay unit will get bag skated after this game, over half the game on the PP, 0 goals and short handed against.

 

[Kryten]

Hronek is the true lemon of a contract.

Yea ive been very vocal against him this and last year,was so hopeful at first too

 

[moiderer]

Is that Justin Dowling? No wonder we're losing.

 

[strattonius]

Hronek is the true lemon of a contract.

Nothing wrong with Hronek focus your energy where there are actual problems.

 

[Regal]

The problem is...our supposed "line drivers" aren't really doing as much of that as they should. Or as much as like...Spinny Garland does.

Yea I think this is the biggest thing. It’s hard to judge complementary players as much when the line drivers aren’t going. It’s great to say they need game breakers but they have Pettersson, Miller and Hughes. Not many teams have more than 3 game-breaking line drivers in the cap era. They just need to get going. Miller and Hughes have been decent to start the year but they can be better and Miller hasn’t been good in this one. And everyone knows about Pettersson.

 

[biturbo19]

That’s…that’s not that works.