Post-Game Talk: GM 7 | Habs def. Canucks - 5-2 (Pettersson, Hoglander)

[PG Canuck]

Yep, the next worse was WPG who gets bailed out by Helly

Yep, and even that is widely known too. Helly's xGA or whatever it is, was off the charts good and saving the bacon of WPG.

 

[Pastor Of Muppetz]

 

[Captain Bowie]

Actually, it's pretty simple. I can do it in one word even.

Benning.

I'm not going to humor you anymore if your not going to at least discuss in good faith.

 

[Captain Bowie]

It's unreasonable to keep giving up multiple odd man rushes and prime scoring chances in the slot, while also getting outshot by a 2:1 ratio every night.

ok.

 

[J Corso]

The most pathetic thing about this game is that the coaching staff just proved they don't know the offside rule.

It wasn't a close call, could have gone either way, we took a gamble thing. No, someone on that staff watched the replay and didn't know the rule. Half the posters here knew it was 100% onside and the coaches didn't. Inexcusable.

For those saying it's no big deal it's just a few games you have to remember that every single game this year someone gains 2 points on you. About 25% of the time, even the loser will get one point. In a normal year, Calgary loses to the Leafs and it's great because nobody gained on you. That will never happen this year. There's something like 300 guaranteed points to be split by the other teams in their games against each other. Every single night the out of town scoreboard kills you.

Math from previous years doesn't apply. It's going to be way harder to make up ground than usual.

 

[IDJOTBOY]

If it's the same team, how is also a worse team?

I know it sucks to be shit again after a year where the team reached the second round of the playoffs and was one game away from reaching the conference finals and you’re probably just as choked as everyone else in here, but come on, man...

 

[Fatass]

I have a feeling if we lose on Monday to Ottawa then Aquaman drops the hammer I feel. This can’t continue for him..#FireBenning is trending on Twitter and all the quotes are being pointed to him.

Bye bye Benning. Who is good though, that will work for Aqua? We don’t want Chia Pet, or craperolla like that. Too bad we didn’t keep Bracket.

 

[kanuck87]

Or you know, the natural progression of a young goalie based on his career to date, on top of that.

So you really think it was silly to think Demko might continue to grow as a young player. What he was as of April 2020 is all he'll ever be.

No, it was silly to assume that going from Markstrom/Demko to Holtby/Demko would be anything close to a lateral move. It has very little to do with Demko. Markstrom is a Vezina-calibre goalie, and Holtby, well, he's nowhere close.

 

[Captain Bowie]

I just think that you're unwilling to acknowledge that there are problems with this team and you aren't doing a very good job of articulating why this team is good.

They looked 'good' in 2020 and Demko should be showing signs of improvement based on a 3 game sample size is about all you've managed to argue, unless I missed something, then I apologize for missing it.

I'm sorry I'm not typing out large paragraphs for you. I have an injury that reduces me to typing with one hand. This post alone took longer than I care to admit.

 

[Cancuks]

Benning's COVID edition of the Canucks are going to make every team in the North look like the 84 Oilers.

 

[Fatass]

Or you know, the natural progression of a young goalie based on his career to date, on top of that.

So you really think it was silly to think Demko might continue to grow as a young player. What he was as of April 2020 is all he'll ever be.

Isn’t Demko coming 26? Smart GM trades Demko as sweetener last off season to dump Sutter. Uses money saved to sign Marky, and Tanev. Our GM decided a “shocking reboot” was smarter.

 

[geebaan]

thats f***ing atrocious. You can blame goalies all you want, but this defense isn’t playing NHL caliber

 

[Captain Bowie]

I know it sucks to be shit again after a year where the team reached the second round of the playoffs and was one game away from reaching the conference finals and you’re probably just as choked as everyone else in here, but come on, man...

Thanks for clearing it up....

 

[canuckking1]

Edler has regressed a shit ton as well. Dude looks old and slow

 

[Hit the post]

Edler has regressed a shit ton as well. Dude looks old and slow

Overused. In a lesser role, I'm guessing he would be still fine. But unfortunately when Green looks at the bench, he has no choice but to 'ride him like a rental mule'.

 

[Dab]

No, it was silly to assume that going from Markstrom/Demko to Holtby/Demko would be anything close to a lateral move. It has very little to do with Demko. Markstrom is a Vezina-calibre goalie, and Holtby, well, he's nowhere close.

most teams don’t get vezina caliber goaltending and don’t let in 5 goals a game. The Canucks have no structure and give the puck up a staggering amount.

 

[Bourne Endeavor]

Bye bye Benning. Who is good though, that will work for Aqua? We don’t want Chia Pet, or craperolla like that. Too bad we didn’t keep Bracket.

There's an argument to be made we go back in time and bring back at least one of the duo that turned us into one of the most dominate teams last decade: namely, Gilman, or hell, even Gillis. Hard to say if either would be interested, or if Aquaman could swallow his pride. But at least we know what we'd be getting with them. Frankly, I'd kill to have Gilman back. He'd probably convince Hughes and Pettersson to sign for 7M, team friendly deals.

 

[4Twenty]

You'd be surprised how many people would rather be right than happy. It's a mental illness really.

Do I really need to go into deep detail on why this team can be good? Like it's not obvious at this point? When our good players are good, we're good. Our good players haven't been good consistently yet. I believe they'll get there before long.

Do I need to dwell on the issues we have right now?? I'm not blind. Sitting here posting "Bad turnover by Myers" for the 15th time is kinda unnecessary, no?

I think you should go into detail if you’re basically going to spam the thread complaining about the content of the thread.

The Canucks were a bottom ten team 5 on 5 by a lot of metrics last season . The underlying numbers this year are all similar.

It’s more than there best players aren’t up to speed or whatever you’re trying to pass off this play as.

Low slot is easily accessed. Odd man rushes.

check out the heat maps. It looks like normal old Canucks at 5 on 5 just not getting Vezina level goaltending and top 6 production.

 

[tantalum]

Green is coaching a team of players he doesn’t have rather than coaching what he does. What makes it worse is that he is heavily involved in roster decisions and acquisitions so these are guys he thinks can play the way he is coaching.

 

[Svencouver]

As much as I did euphorically enjoy the playoffs last year, I am not exactly heartbroken about losing games that we more or less deserve to lose when last year we were pulling them out of a magic hat to create a mirage that saved multiple incompetent people their jobs. Rip the bandaid off.

 

[Hit the post]

As much as I did euphorically enjoy the playoffs last year, I am not exactly heartbroken about losing games that we more or less deserve to lose when last year we were pulling them out of a magic hat to create a mirage that saved multiple incompetent people their jobs. Rip the bandaid off.

I can't honestly hope for a loss even if it means Jethro Bodine is looking for employment elsewhere.

 

[Kryten]

Isn’t Demko coming 26? Smart GM trades Demko as sweetener last off season to dump Sutter. Uses money saved to sign Marky, and Tanev. Our GM decided a “shocking reboot” was smarter.

A smart gm wouldnt have 20+m in dead weight in the first place

 

[Pastor Of Muppetz]

 

[4Twenty]

Green is coaching a team of players he doesn’t have rather than coaching what he does. What makes it worse is that he is heavily involved in roster decisions and acquisitions so these are guys he thinks can play the way he is coaching.

They were acquired with this “game plan” in mind

 

[Dab]

Bravo!