Post-Game Talk: [GM 67] Canucks lose to Hockey Clubbers | 1-3 | Hughes | Just No Juice




Utah PK
  • There penalty killers are very aggressive up top and Tocchet immediately points out that the counter to this is to go down low and set up 2-on-1 or 3-on-; calls it “plain as day”
  • Coaching staff is a little frustrated because they have been telling the players that if you go hard up high, then the puck has to go low, and you have to make a play
  • Says the coaches are a little bummed out about it

When Hughes was out, there were times where I felt like the PP was actually moving the puck around well, and this suggests to me that a lot of guys on that first unit are simply deferring to Hughes (hence they're not going low). Or maybe we have a bunch of really stupid hockey players.
 
vancouver needs more finishers. no playoffs. chytil out offense is weak. boeser has checked out/hasnt produced since miller left . time to send his ass to the airport and let him walk. one play hughes was tapping his stick for a opportunity and he was mad. target lawson crouse this summer big strong body.
 
Hughes playing LITERALLY half the game

Come on Tochett
Always good to ruin the health of your best players in pursuit of . . . mediocrity purgatory, where the team neither makes the playoffs nor drafts in the top 5 or so

And by always good, I mean something else. I have to speak in code to throw the astroturfers and shills off my scent

And by scent, I mean stench
 
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When you're gifted six minutes of PP time in the third period; but can't generate anything, well that's all she wrote.

Utah now owns the season series against the Canucks at 3-0-1. Throw out the Chicago game, and the Canucks are one of the lowest scoring teams in the NHL since the changeover in the calendar year.

You can probably chisel that into their epitaph for the season.
 
in all seriousness, why don’t we just play the trap? Like if we are gonna be an all defense team anyway and can’t score, might as well just embrace it. This like half way in between systems every game hurts me.
 
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That's it for me. See you all next season. Not going to invest anymore time into this season. On ice product is not entertaining. Cheers
Bye.


Very frustrating game.

A rare one that I was at.

I really kind of felt we were in trouble given that it was a back to back against a quick team and we then lost one of our two fastest forwards.
It also felt like O'Connor got almost no ice-time.

Brock is, unfortunately, a complete liability out there. Every time the puck is sent near him he looks like a guy sleeping leaning on his mop and suddenly jolting and going, "I'm awake!"

There wasn't much to love from anyone out there.

Though I will say, missing a top 6er and in the second half of a back-to-back, our defensive play was mostly really solid. We didn't give Utah much at all. But they scored on their chances.

That late 4 minute pp was frustrating. Nobody took charge.

I was really confused by the lack of net presence. There were a couple of times where a guy up high (D or Petey) took and both wingers were flared out to the sides for down low options. Like, someone has to go to the f***ing net.

Either way, the good news is with 15 games left we get to have more mood swings. It's a fun time even if we're a worn out and undermanned team.

I do worry about the fact that we play Vegas x2, Dallas, and the Avs in the last 6 games.

St Louis is coming on strong.

I actually wouldn't be surprised if Minnesota falls out and there are two spots up for grabs.
 
Chytil
  • Weakens the centre position with him out
  • Is a speedy guy
AI-generated Chytil description.
It's a B2B with no travel. No real excuse. They go home after yesterday's game, normal routine, etc.

Their problem today wasn't their "legs". It's what's plagued them for most of the Tocchett era: They are physically incapable of creating shots or scoring chances with any regularity.
Playing NHL hockey twice in less than 24 hours against a team that has not played NHL hockey twice in less than 24 hours is challenging. Team sucked but no need to downplay it.
 
It's always been mainly about the brutal schedule. This team still has all the same issues, and I have difficulty seeing them stay above .500 over this stretch given the teams they have to play.
 
I would be surprised if we got into the playoffs

I have a feeling St.Louis will be the team that gets in

It just hasn't been our year. Too many things from injuries, health issues and drama. This forward group just doesn't have enough drivers

If they can get in with everything that's happened it would be an accomplishment, I hope they do but losing faith aswell.
 
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Always good to ruin the health of your best players in pursuit of . . . mediocrity purgatory, where the team neither makes the playoffs nor drafts in the top 5 or so

And by always good, I mean something else. I have to speak in code to throw the astroturfers and shills off my scent

And by scent, I mean stench
Tocchet is doing his job and any coach would do the same.

It's up to management to procure the assists required on the ice, coaches can only deal with the hand they are dealt.

Last season was a mirage and Canucks have seen it before they fundamentally need to get better at constructing a winning team but ownership lacks patience.
 
Defence at the cost of offence. Playing to not lose instead of to win.
Hughes acts a lot like JT did yet no says anything. Not saying Hughes sucks as a captain just finding it interesting watching it unfold where one player got constant heat for it.
When has any player said anything negative while still on the team? Very rarely.
Every now and then there might be a sound bite of negativity but negativity doesn't sell tickets or hope.
As was so strongly pointed out with Miller's absence the players have human issues/emotions so why wouldn't Hughes feel despair about his career evaporating?

in all seriousness, why don’t we just play the trap? Like if we are gonna be an all defense team anyway and can’t score, might as well just embrace it. This like half way in between systems every game hurts me.
The team has been for months, hence sub 20 shot games.
They are really clamping down because if they can get loser points they have a chance at WC2 or at least they can sell that HOPE to get fans suckered into buying tickets.
With tie breakers the Canucks are DFL there.

But hey, they are still in the WC2 spot for another 12 hours depending on whether Calgary gets a loser point or a win.

Hughes playing half a game really means the team needs only 2 other dmen of caliber.

Last game, Chicago, looked to me like pond hockey, this game looked like desperation, they tried the intimidation thing but that didn't work with these young guys
 
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It’s because when Hughes is in the lineup the play is always just to defer to him instead of doing literally anything else. idk if it’s a Tocchet thing or a team mentality thing. Either way it’s dumb af
except that after the break they also sucked when hughes was not in the lineup.

the bottom line is that they can't drive play consistently without hughes on the ice and they have no physical push without miller. it doesn't help that boeser has vanished since the tdl, but basically, despite being a coherent well coached team, they need things to go right for them to win hockey games.
 
in all seriousness, why don’t we just play the trap? Like if we are gonna be an all defense team anyway and can’t score, might as well just embrace it. This like half way in between systems every game hurts me.
Unfortunately you still need capable players in your top 6 to play low event shut-down hockey. Skilled guys who can skate the puck out of zone, maintain puck possession and also backcheck.
 
Playing NHL hockey twice in less than 24 hours against a team that has not played NHL hockey twice in less than 24 hours is challenging. Team sucked but no need to downplay it.
Evert team has B2Bs. Most of the time it's on the road. Having a B2B with no travel is as about as favourable as it's going to get when talking about B2Bs. The Canucks knew this was going to be their biggest game of the season so far and had to get it done. No excuses.
 

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