GDT: GM #45 LA kings vs Pittsburgh Penguins @7:00

[deeshamrock]

Decision in, both Malkin and Brown get fines

1. NHL Player Safety‏Verified account @NHLPlayerSafety 12m12 minutes ago
   Pittsburgh’s Evgeni Malkin fined $5,000, the maximum allowable under the CBA, for spearing Los Angeles’ Dustin Brown.
   19 replies 66 retweets 85 likes
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3. NHL Player Safety‏Verified account @NHLPlayerSafety 13m13 minutes ago
   Los Angeles’ Dustin Brown fined $10,000, the maximum allowable under the CBA, for cross-checking Pittsburgh’s Justin Schultz.

 

[Butch 19]

It took 11 years for the Kings to draft a rookie who could rack up 14 goals...

I guess we shouldn't be surprised given how often we talk about the need for this team to find offense from within. A talking point that has been ongoing for years.

That is pretty sad.

 

[Little Psycho]

I thought Brown would get a game for sure.

 

[Butch 19]

Well, to be fair Kings shipped lots of young players /picks out to make cup runs, so kind of hard when you diminish your rookie talent pool to have a prolific rookie. It paid off, so this one does not bother me too much

Isn't 11 year a lot?

Over 50 players and they couldn't luck into one rookie that could score 14 goals his first year with the team?

That is some kind of failure.

 

[BigKing]

Hit wasn't malicious, but stupid and resulted in an injury. Surprised that they thought the GM was enough in this instance.

 

[tsanuri]

Do find it interesting that having a hearing allows them to double the fine. But that begs the question as to why they didn't have a hearing with malkin as well. And for that matter why not have a hearing on any call they are thinking about handing down a fine.
The overall amounts are still a joke. With brown's salary this year it's the equivalent of someone making 40k paying $60. But the PA doesn't want higher amounts.

 

[fsanford]

Isn't 11 year a lot?

Over 50 players and they couldn't luck into one rookie that could score 14 goals his first year with the team?

That is some kind of failure.

Not when you trade talent, focus on defense in drafts and have a coach for a number of those year who would prefer to let rookies sit on the bench vs play/

Kings were a corsi team that beats you with goal tending and defense, you could have put McDavid on some of those clubs and he would not have potted 14.
Okay that might be extreme but the point is any rookie coming up for the Kings year 1, had limited opportunities with top guys and would need to focus on their back checking more than their wrist shot.

 

[Butch 19]

Not when you trade talent, focus on defense in drafts and have a coach for a number of those year who would prefer to let rookies sit on the bench vs play/

Kings were a corsi team that beats you with goal tending and defense, you could have put McDavid on some of those clubs and he would not have potted 14.
Okay that might be extreme but the point is any rookie coming up for the Kings year 1, had limited opportunities with top guys and would need to focus on their back checking more than their wrist shot.

if not 11 years, how many years would you let it go before you finally said "Alright - ENOUGH!! We need to draft and develop some scoring talent!"

 

[Raccoon Jesus]

Isn't 11 year a lot?

Over 50 players and they couldn't luck into one rookie that could score 14 goals his first year with the team?

That is some kind of failure.

To be fair Toffoli had 12 in 62 games, Pearson had 12 in 42. Kempe now has 16 in 69 and it's his second 'year' so let's not use that arbitrary cutoff to act like no one has done anything in between. Edit: and Parse! 11 in 59

 

[KingsFan7824]

To be fair Toffoli had 12 in 62 games, Pearson had 12 in 42. Kempe now has 16 in 69 and it's his second 'year' so let's not use that arbitrary cutoff to act like no one has done anything in between. Edit: and Parse! 11 in 59

Simmonds had 9 as well. On strictly 3rd line ES minutes.

Edit: If you want to get crazy, we can count King in 2012, regular season and playoffs combined. Had 10 goals in 47 games.

 

[Bandit]

Awesome, good for him. Hopefully he can continue to excel even after Carter comes back.

That is pretty sad.

Yeah I agree, it is pretty sad to take the opportunity to complain about the Kings instead of congratulating Kempe.

 

[KINGS17]

I've said since last season that the Kings should move Carter.

I know Reaper. I think you, Herbie, and I were the main proponents of such a move.

 

[Butch 19]

Yeah I agree, it is pretty sad to take the opportunity to complain about the Kings instead of congratulating Kempe.

Kempe knows I've got his back.

It's the other 50+ non-scoring-drafted players that worry me. As a Kings fan, watching yet another January (& likely season) collapse, they should worry you too!

 

[damacles1156]

It took 11 years for the Kings to draft a rookie who could rack up 14 goals...

I guess we shouldn't be surprised given how often we talk about the need for this team to find offense from within. A talking point that has been ongoing for years.

One major player in all of this still remains on Kings staff in a highly prominent position, and is directly responsible for some of the poor drafting choices. He some how escapes any criticisms it's quite amazing.

 

[SettlementRichie10]

I know Reaper. I think you, Herbie, and I were the main proponents of such a move.

And it’s still a terrible move unless we’re actually moving other pieces, as well.

Trading Carter for picks/prospects does nothing in a vacuum other than further cement this team in the black hole.

If we’re moving Carter, Doughty, and several other core players for a full rebuild, then sure. But moving Carter alone accomplishes nothing.

We’re witnessing right now what a Carter-less but otherwise intact core is capable of: the black hole.

 

[SettlementRichie10]

One major player in all of this still remains on Kings staff in a highly prominent position, and is directly responsible for some of the poor drafting choices. He some how escapes any criticisms it's quite amazing.

The cult of Futa is strong.

 

[Fishhead]

It took 11 years for the Kings to draft a rookie who could rack up 14 goals...

I guess we shouldn't be surprised given how often we talk about the need for this team to find offense from within. A talking point that has been ongoing for years.

To be fair, Pearson was still a rookie when he scored 12 goals in 42 games, a similar pace to Kempe this year when he broke his leg. So while that tweet is true, it's misleading because Tanner was on pace for 23 goals that season.

Toffoli also got 12 his rookie year, followed by 23 and 31. I would be surprised if Kempe hits 30 goals in two seasons.

Saying the Kings haven't been able to find scorers from within since Kopitar isn't true at all.

Edit: RJ beat me to it

 

[Ziggy Stardust]

Yeah I agree, it is pretty sad to take the opportunity to complain about the Kings instead of congratulating Kempe.

Sorry for bringing up a fact that made you sad.

 

[deaderhead28]

Trading Carter now isn't a good move if the ownership is still in a win now mode.Carter is a low cost fwd that can mentor the rookies.If owners are in a rebuild and not chasing playoffs then again core needs to be moved.

 

[deaderhead28]

The cult of Futa is strong.

Futa and Blake are part of the Lombardi clan and old guard.Reason why Mayor had posted his sources saying Blake is on the hot seat to get this team to the playoffs rather than allowing Blake to rebuild.Dont be surprised if Stevens is fired at the end of the year if the Kings fail to make the playoffs.Stevens as well is Lombardi's guy and Blake doubled down on him as well.

 

[deaderhead28]

Sorry for bringing up a fact that made you sad.

I agree,didn't know this was a tribute thread for Kempe.

 

[Bandit]

Sorry for bringing up a fact that made you sad.

Nope, didn't make me sad at all. Something being sad and making someone sad are not really the same thing. Just goes to show where people's minds tend to gravitate, despite all the make believe to the contrary. I'd say more, but we don't want anyone running to a moderator do we?

 

[Raccoon Jesus]

One major player in all of this still remains on Kings staff in a highly prominent position, and is directly responsible for some of the poor drafting choices. He some how escapes any criticisms it's quite amazing.

That he does not.

The cult of Futa is strong.

As it should be to a degree. Given the relative absence of picks, we stack up against anyone's draft record, whether you look at NHL games played or raw production. The real problem is the movement of said assets, but that was in pursuit of a different goal (Cup chasing).

Every time I ask "who drafts better?" the only possible answer is Tampa Bay and even then minus one super immense draft the performance is similar.

That's not to say there isn't room for improvement or he should be free of criticism mind you. They've been publicly hard on themselves. But if the biggest complaint is that we haven't crapshooted a superstar at random in the 5th round or later, that's kind of bunk.

His biggest performance evaluation will come in the next year or two imo.

Edit: now if we want to criticise the previous philosophy--safe picks instead of big swings, "Kings" style players instead of speed+skill--that's a different ballgame entirely that I wouldn't really argue with.

 

[Bandit]

That he does not.



As it should be to a degree. Given the relative absence of picks, we stack up against anyone's draft record, whether you look at NHL games played or raw production. The real problem is the movement of said assets, but that was in pursuit of a different goal (Cup chasing).

Every time I ask "who drafts better?" the only possible answer is Tampa Bay and even then minus one super immense draft the performance is similar.

That's not to say there isn't room for improvement or he should be free of criticism mind you. They've been publicly hard on themselves. But if the biggest complaint is that we haven't crapshooted a superstar at random in the 5th round or later, that's kind of bunk.

His biggest performance evaluation will come in the next year or two imo.

Edit: now if we want to criticise the previous philosophy--safe picks instead of big swings, "Kings" style players instead of speed+skill--that's a different ballgame entirely that I wouldn't really argue with.

It's a lose-lose. They take a big swing (Hickey, Teubert) and miss, and we have to hear about it in every thread for a decade, despite having won two cups since. Complainers just love to complain, no stopping it. Swing and miss, complain, play it safe and don't get teh 40 goal scorer, complain. Lather, rinse, repeat.

 

[kingsfan28]

Decision in, both Malkin and Brown get fines

1. NHL Player Safety‏Verified account @NHLPlayerSafety 12m12 minutes ago
   Pittsburgh’s Evgeni Malkin fined $5,000, the maximum allowable under the CBA, for spearing Los Angeles’ Dustin Brown.
   19 replies 66 retweets 85 likes
2. 
   
3. NHL Player Safety‏Verified account @NHLPlayerSafety 13m13 minutes ago
   Los Angeles’ Dustin Brown fined $10,000, the maximum allowable under the CBA, for cross-checking Pittsburgh’s Justin Schultz.

It would've been nice if Malkin got a major and a game misconduct instead of the star treatment. All 4 officials missed it yet the puck was right behind Brown. What were they watching?