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GDT: GM#4 LA Kings vs Montreal Canadiens @4:30pm 10/11/18

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lexlavender said:
What a ****ing absurd stat.
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Absurd is simultaneously being the best CF% pairing in the league but the worst GF% :P

...which they were.

Eye test confirms it though, elite at generating shots and such once they can get out of their end, but so many missed handoffs and chemistry errors that are catastrophic.
 
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Raccoon Jesus said:
Absurd is simultaneously being the best CF% pairing in the league but the worst GF% :P

...which they were.

Eye test confirms it though, elite at generating shots and such once they can get out of their end, but so many missed handoffs and chemistry errors that are catastrophic.
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"Don't you know that blind back hand passes out of the zone are not only cool, but the best way to play as fast as possible?"-Stevens, probably
 
Ollie Weeks said:
And the second goal wasn’t just some gimme turnover. Its was due to a sustained shift and forechecking in the offensive zone.
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I watched the highlights after the game, you're right. But the entire game did not feel anything like that shift. Maybe because their power play is so bad, I just can't remember the Kings doing anything sustainable in the offensive zone.
 
KINGS17 said:
Please forget about your "right time to trade a player for optimum value" argument. It doesn't serve you well. So, if I have a stock I bought at $10, it went to $2,000 and it is now $1,500, I shouldn't sell it now for a big profit because I didn't get maximum value? Ridiculous.
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But with the cap and all that, it's not a free $1,500 to sell on. You won't get a big profit. You'll have to sell at $1,500, but buy something for $1,300 in the same deal, so the profit might only be $190, not $1,490. Still a profit from where you started from, but, nothing crazy.
 
So, I've been noticing a trend so far this season and it is a bit of a carry over from last season, but the Kings seem to have a completely opposite mindset with regards to offensive zone decisions from the Sutter years. The shot numbers are way down, however their percentage of high danger scoring chances are way up. Last night the Kings had 34 CF and of those 12 were high danger, whereas the Habs had 56 CF and only 7 were high danger. The Sharks game was Kings 33 and 9, Sharks had 55 and 10. Wings game was 40 and 12 for the Kings, Wings had 53 and 12. Now that I am seeing this trend it has kind of changed the way I have viewed Stevens and his approach, I like that he actually is trying something different from the days when we were Corsi gods, but couldn't make the playoffs. The fact that it is such a sharp change, could explain why the team seems to lack an identity, with veteran players struggling to adapt. Notice how good Kovalchuk and the young kids have looked so far this season.
 
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lexlavender said:
"Don't you know that blind back hand passes out of the zone are not only cool, but the best way to play as fast as possible?"-Stevens, probably
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With the defense as is, there will always be at least one blind back hand passer in their own zone. The choices are Martinez, or older and slower Phaneuf. Unless Stevens plays Doughty every other shift. People seem to have issues with how Stevens hands out ice time though. I guess that's on Blake for letting Folin walk.
 
KINGS17 said:
Define "worked out alright"? Is that winning one playoff game over the last 4 seasons?
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You cherry picked one phrase from my post and attempted to apply it out of context to something entirely different. The sentence "Cycling through back-ups while he's hurt has worked out alright for us" has f*** all to do with our playoff record. It means the back-ups have done their job filling in when needed and are virtually indistinguishable from each other. Amusingly, you picked out the statement that most closely resembles an argument in your favor. If you don't believe that "cycling through back-ups while he's hurt has worked out alright for us" why are you advocating trading Quick in favor of those back-ups?
 
redcard said:
You cherry picked one phrase from my post and attempted to apply it out of context to something entirely different. The sentence "Cycling through back-ups while he's hurt has worked out alright for us" has **** all to do with our playoff record. It means the back-ups have done their job filling in when needed and are virtually indistinguishable from each other. Amusingly, you picked out the statement that most closely resembles an argument in your favor. If you don't believe that "cycling through back-ups while he's hurt has worked out alright for us" why are you advocating trading Quick in favor of those back-ups?
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I would advocate trading Quick because:

a. I would like to see him play for a true contender
b. The Kings are not contenders, and may be able to get something of real value for Quick, given the right situation

Why do you advocate keeping Quick until the bitter end of his contract?
 
KingsFan7824 said:
But with the cap and all that, it's not a free $1,500 to sell on. You won't get a big profit. You'll have to sell at $1,500, but buy something for $1,300 in the same deal, so the profit might only be $190, not $1,490. Still a profit from where you started from, but, nothing crazy.
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Cal Petersen, if he is the future #1, isn't going to have a cap hit of $5M+ anytime soon. Sooner or later, Quick will have to be replaced as the #1.
 
Oof, hard to ignore Quicks repetitive injury history. He's only going to get more fragile boys with age.

Quicks replacement is coming much sooner than anybody will expect. But it has to be that way. His contract ends 2021-2022, ouch.
 
I could see a team like the Blues interested. Their goaltending has been a near annual letdown.

Columbus might have interest too, if Bobrovsky bails out. That’d be a nice in to discuss a deal for Panarin.
 
SFKingshomer said:
Quick is the heart and soul of the team and no one shows more passion and hunger to win. He's not going anywhere unless he wants to or simply can't play any longer.
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Maybe it's time to take away the security blanket.
 
Penguins parted with Flower..

Dean L pretty much taught us too much loyalty can quickly lead to demise.
I get the nostalgia piece of it, but the kind of game Quick plays is hard on the body.

I think Kings at minimum need to look at exposing Quick in the 2020 draft.
 
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KINGS17 said:
Cal Petersen, if he is the future #1, isn't going to have a cap hit of $5M+ anytime soon. Sooner or later, Quick will have to be replaced as the #1.
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Petersen will be 25 years old to start next season. He's not going to want to wait around for another 3 of 4 years while Quick plays out his contract. Unless something changes, the Petersen is the future #1 is likely a myth. In fact, I watched Campbell and Petersen side by side last year playing for the Reign, both have different styles of goaltending, but talent and skill wise (plus results) they were about the same. Hard pressed to say Petersen is better than Campbell at this point, but he is younger obviously.
 
regulate said:
Not sure if you are exaggerating for effect, but Kopi has 5 years left on his contract after this season and Doughty has 8 years left.
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No, I think I got salary mixed up with term in my head. Still, Blake is committed to those two. I don’t see Quick being traded unless he wants out.
 
fsanford said:
Penguins parted with Flower..

Dean L pretty much taught us too much loyalty can quickly lead to demise.
I get the nostalgia piece of it, but the kind of game Quick plays is hard on the body.

I think Kings at minimum need to look at exposing Quick in the 2020 draft.
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Penguins parted with Flower after winning back to back cups with a younger better goalie.
 
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