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GDT: GM#11 LA Kings vs New York Rangers @12:30pm 10/28/18- Half Assed GDT Version!

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Ziggy Stardust said:
Kings win their first game in six games, so let’s all pretend they’ve been playing great hockey, even when they defeat bottom feeders.

They’re trying their hardest, and that’s all that matters guys. Just ignore the end result. Be happy they won after they’ve been getting their asses handed to them for most of October.
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LMAO WTF are you talking about? Yesterday was their first good game from 0-60 in a long time, no one has said any different....but when they play good, acknowledge it, when they don't, acknowledge it, but you seem to bitch regardless of how they actually play
 
GoldenBearHockey said:
LMAO WTF are you talking about? Yesterday was their first good game from 0-60 in a long time, no one has said any different....but when they play good, acknowledge it, when they don't, acknowledge it, but you seem to ***** regardless of how they actually play
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When the f*** do you acknowledge them playing poorly? You just bury your head in the sand and act holier than thou as if your opinions matter more than anyone else on here. Try removing that stick that’s lodged up your ass and realize that you’re not always right.

Guess what, half the game the Kings player poorly, as did the Rangers. The Kings played better in the latter half.

I guess we should be releasing the streamers and doing cartwheels in celebration to appease you.
 
Ziggy Stardust said:
When the **** do you acknowledge them playing poorly? You just bury your head in the sand and act holier than thou.

Guess what, half the game the Kings player poorly, as did the Rangers. The Kings played better in the latter half.

I guess we should be releasing the streamers and doing cartwheels in celebration to appease you.
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LOL if you would read what I post then you would find out, wouldn't you, instead you just read what you want,

Kings played well the 1st period, they were on the heels a bit on the 2nd, but started to come back around and play well,

You think that was a poorly game played by LA ? No wonder you are such a sourpuss, you can't recognize a good game, when you see it...so everything is sour to you, holy hell, I think we found the problem...
 
Golden Child suggests I read what I want, then fails to acknowledge that I said the Kings played better in the second half and makes up something I never wrote about them having played a poor game.

I guess your reading comprehension isn’t as strong as your self acclaimed hockey knowledge and experience.
 
Ziggy Stardust said:
Golden Child suggests I read what I want, then fails to acknowledge that I said the Kings played better in the second half and makes up something I never wrote about them having played a poor game.

I guess your reading comprehension isn’t as strong as your self acclaimed hockey knowledge and experience.
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LOL you literally said, HALF the game the Kings played poorly......so like I said, if you think THAT was a game where the Kings played poorly, you can't recognize a good game when you see it.
 
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GoldenBearHockey said:
LOL you literally said, HALF the game the Kings played poorly......so like I said, if you think THAT was a game where the Kings played poorly, you can't recognize a good game when you see it.
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Half the game they were lifeless and failed to produce a goal and were down by two. They’ve been falling behind and losing games as a result for a good majority of games, tracing back to last season.

If you think THAT was a game where the Kings played well, you can’t recognize a poor game when you see it.

Sorry for being objective. Maybe you can teach me how to shove my head far up my ass as you do so I can see the game through your eyes.
 
GoldenBearHockey said:
Not sure what part you watched, but again, can we get off this stupid **** of this team sucks, that team sucks etc, they are all NHL caliber teams, and any team can beat any team on any night, so that's nonsense, "oh we beat an AHL team" hell one idiot was clamoring that Shattenkirk was the only NHL dmen on the team, apparently not knowing crab about Pionk, Skej, or their other D, Staal is still solid, old and less mobile, etc.

NYR had 1.5 solid goals, I say 1.5 because no way to know for sure with that Namestenkov-Lewis debacle if that goal was in before he got hit, regardless of what they said there was no clear replay, and the passing play was just solid.

But guess what, LA had 3 solid goals, 2 PPG goals when everyone was *****ing about the PP to start the year, it's clicking, they carried the play the majority of the time etc,

I get it, you want the Kings to lose so they can fire a guy you think is the problem,....except that won't happen right away because everyone in the league knows that Steven's isn't the ONLY problem, they know that everyone is playing beneath their potential and talent level, and a player will be traded before the coach is fired, to remedy that.
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I recognize that they're all NHL-caliber teams and anyone can win on any given night, and that even the best teams will only control just under 60% of the play most nights. I don't expect 60 minutes of dominance ever. But, objectively, the three bottom teams in the nhl are the rangers, red wings, and kings. Two of those teams have acknowledged a tear-down and rebuild and it's in their best interests to tank. Two of our three wins are against those guys, and the other win was our goalie getting a 40-save shutout. Color me unimpressed, especially because the Wings win was uuuuugly and this one took a fortunate literal last minute wrist shot from the top of the circle. You're lecturing about 'you guys will never be happy and will complain about anything' but given I usually get blasted for being the opposite I'd like to think my pessimism and criticism means something.

Two PP goals is nice, even if it's against a bottom-tier PK (NYR is at 73%). They also carried most of the play, but against a bottom 5 possession team. Perspective. I'll be off the burning train to nowhere when they start doing positive things consistently against literally anyone else.

I preferred a loss because that could have sounded alarm bells. I just disagree that a player should go before Stevens. Your comment that I boldfaced is my feeling on why.
 
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Ziggy Stardust said:
Half the game they were lifeless and failed to produce a goal and were down by two. They’ve been falling behind and losing games as a result for a good majority of games, tracing back to last season.

If you think THAT was a game where the Kings player well, you can’t recognize a poor game when you see it.

Sorry for being objective. Maybe you can teach me how to shove my head far up my ass as you do so I can see the game through your eyes.
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Oh wait, I get it, you only think they play well if they score on every shot? Or every zone entry?

Man, you spend too much time on your PS4, who cares if they were down by 2, they were playing well, you say they were lifeless, seriously? They outshoot a team 40-25, yet they were lifeless lmao...you are too much man...

Lifeless lol
 
Raccoon Jesus said:
I recognize that they're all NHL-caliber teams and anyone can win on any given night, and that even the best teams will only control just under 60% of the play most nights. I don't expect 60 minutes of dominance ever. But, objectively, the three bottom teams in the nhl are the rangers, red wings, and kings. Two of those teams have acknowledged a tear-down and rebuild and it's in their best interests to tank. Two of our three wins are against those guys, and the other win was our goalie getting a 40-save shutout. Color me unimpressed, especially because the Wings win was uuuuugly and this one took a fortunate literal last minute wrist shot from the top of the circle. You're lecturing about 'you guys will never be happy and will complain about anything' but given I usually get blasted for being the opposite I'd like to think my pessimism and criticism means something.

Two PP goals is nice, even if it's against a bottom-tier PK (NYR is at 73%). They also carried most of the play, but against a bottom 5 possession team. Perspective. I'll be off the burning train to nowhere when they start doing positive things consistently against literally anyone else.

I preferred a loss because that could have sounded alarm bells. I just disagree that a player should go before Stevens. Your comment that I boldfaced is my feeling on why.
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You say this one took a fortunate last minute wrist shot, but you don't recognize the fortunate goal that put them up 2-0, gonna go there, again, it's a game of bounces etc, the Kings played well in this game from start to finish regardless if they were down or not, they played well, they controlled the play, they dictated the pace, yea, they had their foot off of the pedal, and probably could have or should have converted more of the shots, but again, they played better than they have in weeks, and everyone is pissing and moaning about that,

Everyone recognizes this team should be better than they are, not saying contenders, but as you said, better than a 41 point team probably not a 95 point team, yet, when they start to play better, everyone bitches and moans.
 
I think many on here who have been positive are seeing a team that just isn’t a real contender. They look worst than last year. I want a rebuild if they are out by the deadline. Can’t go back to the black hole teams. Rebuilds aren’t fun either but at least there is a bit more hope and optimism.
 
And that spike of emotion from Stevens on the bench after Martinez put them ahead.

He spoke the truth with that media sound bite - truly doesn’t care if he’s on the hotseat. Or he was just confused.
 
LAKings88 said:
I think many on here who have been positive are seeing a team that just isn’t a real contender. They look worst than last year. I want a rebuild if they are out by the deadline. Can’t go back to the black hole teams. Rebuilds aren’t fun either but at least there is a bit more hope and optimism.
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Agree, I don't think anyone is saying they are a real contender......I think some...don't want a rebuild under this management....Blake and Luc....can't blame them, I don't think they would be fully behind it....I think they would turn it into a constant....black hole unless they fully bought into it.
 
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Ollie Weeks said:
And that spike of emotion from Stevens on the bench after Martinez put them ahead.

He spoke the truth with that media sound bite - truly doesn’t care if he’s on the hotseat. Or he was just confused.
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Probably doesn't care, as with most coaches, it's beyond their control what management does, so he doesn't focus on it.
 
from a gambler's point of view.

yesterday it was the first time that i didn't bet against the kings pre-match after game 3 of the season. with brown back there was no value. and it was not about the opponent, yesterday it felt like kings could win against a much better team. so i just skipped.

i got really tempted to bet on kings after being 0-2 down. i missed that window and so the evening ended, with input zero.

overall i will not bet next few games. just watch. yesterday i was not impressed with many aspects of the game, but it was better, somehow overall a bit better. now, imho it's equally possible that a winning or another losing strike will follow. we'll see.

just a word about stevens. yesterday he got a bit of composure back. the relief was visible in his body language in the quotes just after the game. that's a big plus. poor man looked like a wreck two days ago.

sincerely i wish this team all the best. i don't have any emotional agenda about stevens or a new coach or new captain or whatever. i just try to be objective, because if not i lose money.

and as a fan i'm just glad they finally won.

 
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While I agree the Kings are better than they should be playing, but let's not overlook the fact they suck against mediocre teams.
 
Sol said:
While I agree the Kings are better than they should be playing, but let's not overlook the fact they suck against mediocre teams.
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Against good teams as well, but not last night....and that's all they can do, take it game by game....
 
Just for reference Ziggy, maybe you can use this in the future,

This here - GameTracker

Is an example of when the Kings DID NOT generate quality chances......surely you can see the difference in the two charts....right?
 
KingCanadain1976 said:
and nothing have said worked either So maybe try something new ;)
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Hey, I try to be honest and imbalanced, I call it as I see it with no sugarcoating. When I ask myself, is this a playoff contending team that can cause damage in the playoffs? The honest answer is no. They’ve done nothing to convince many of us otherwise.

Therefore, people are justified in wanting to see changes brought to the team, and it’s a fair assessment to make when it comes to Stevens not necessarily being someone who changed much in how this team fore checks, their special teams alignment, and their overall stagnant offense.

And I’m not going to attack any well thought or rational posts. I just have no patience for condescending assholes who are being pricks to others for offering dissenting opinions. I’ve had disagreements with many on here, but if someone is going to act holier than thou on here, I’ll be sure to give that asshole a piece of my mind.
 
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