Value of: Giroux to MIN

[StoneHands]

Ok? We obviously overpaid on Foligno, and we wouldn’t want to do it again…

Good to know you have your ear to Guerin's office and know all of his intensions.

 

[heisenbergsitti]

Good to know you have your ear to Guerin's office and know all of his intensions.

You do know the guy you are talking to, responding to is a leafs fan right? You commented leafs traded a 1st and more for nick foligno, so he responded

 

[Boondock]

I have no dog in this fight as a Flyers fan but why would you just assume Hertl would be a rental? The Wild have plenty of cap space next season. Wouldn't anyone who trades for Hertl plan on at least trying to resign him before FA hits? He just turned 28 and he fills a pretty big hole for the Wild.

As per CapFriendly the Wild have $15 million in cap space next season. Assuming there will be a slight raise in the cap lets call it $16million. $16 million and 12 players under contract. Teams carry between 21-23 players, so assume a roster of 22 players this means the Wild have $16 million to sign 10 players. This would probably be 6 forwards, 3 defenders and 1 goalie.
1 - Rossi and Boldy will be on the roster - total cap $1.9
2 - Kahkonen will re-sign - total cap $1
3 - Addison will be on the roster - total cap hit $900k
4 - Re-sign Fiala - total cap $6.5?

This leaves $5.7 million to sign 3 forwards and 2 D - that is an average of $1.14 per remaining contract. The Wild could not sign Fiala and potentially sign a Hertl to a $7.5 contract (just me spit-balling), but that would reduce their ability to fill out the rest of the roster with even less cap. So it wouldn't be impossible to re-sign a trade deadline rental but it would be difficult to build out the rest of a team and it would require the Wild to lose other good quality players such as Fiala and Greenway.

 

[AKL]

As per CapFriendly the Wild have $15 million in cap space next season. Assuming there will be a slight raise in the cap lets call it $16million. $16 million and 12 players under contract. Teams carry between 21-23 players, so assume a roster of 22 players this means the Wild have $16 million to sign 10 players. This would probably be 6 forwards, 3 defenders and 1 goalie.
1 - Rossi and Boldy will be on the roster - total cap $1.9
2 - Kahkonen will re-sign - total cap $1
3 - Addison will be on the roster - total cap hit $900k
4 - Re-sign Fiala - total cap $6.5?

This leaves $5.7 million to sign 3 forwards and 2 D - that is an average of $1.14 per remaining contract. The Wild could not sign Fiala and potentially sign a Hertl to a $7.5 contract (just me spit-balling), but that would reduce their ability to fill out the rest of the roster with even less cap. So it wouldn't be impossible to re-sign a trade deadline rental but it would be difficult to build out the rest of a team and it would require the Wild to lose other good quality players such as Fiala and Greenway.

Not to detract from the rest of your post, which is pretty spot on, but Greenway should be gone regardless of cap implications. He's pretty much worn out his welcome here.

 

[Boondock]

Not to detract from the rest of your post, which is pretty spot on, but Greenway should be gone regardless of cap implications. He's pretty much worn out his welcome here.

That's too bad to hear. I liked the way he skates for a big body and always thought he looked better than his stats showed, but maybe he is what he is at this point - a good 3rd line winger without the offense to be a real option for top 6 wing?

 

[StoneHands]

You do know the guy you are talking to, responding to is a leafs fan right? You commented leafs traded a 1st and more for nick foligno, so he responded

I didn't really know what team he was a fan of. His location says Minneapolis so I thought maybe he thought I was talking about Marcus Foligno or something. Obviously Foligno was traded to the Leafs but this thread is about Giroux being traded to Minnesota so I don't really know why he even responded other than Leafs fans trying to take over every thread.

 

[TheKingPin]

I feel like he’d be fine leaving the bottom feeding Philly team for a chance at a deep playoff run with MN?

Chance at a deep run? Isn’t minny in line to play Vegas or The Avs?

 

[MuckOG]

Chance at a deep run? Isn’t minny in line to play Vegas or The Avs?

The Wild took VGK to 7 games last year and we've all seen how the Avs play below expectations in the postseason....and they have to rely on Kuemper in net.

Minnesota can compete with both those teams.

 

[57special]

I have no dog in this fight as a Flyers fan but why would you just assume Hertl would be a rental? The Wild have plenty of cap space next season. Wouldn't anyone who trades for Hertl plan on at least trying to resign him before FA hits? He just turned 28 and he fills a pretty big hole for the Wild.

Anyway, would love Giroux on MN, but MN can't afford to re-sign him. I would doubt that PHI would be thrilled with a 1st + Dameon Hunt offer, but that's all I got. They shouldn't be doing a 1st + Marat/Lambos deal for a couple of months of Giroux, IMO, but I totally get that some other team(who has cap space to try and re-up him) might be willing to pay that for him.

 

[TheKingPin]

The Wild took VGK to 7 games last year and we've all seen how the Avs play below expectations in the postseason....and they have to rely on Kuemper in net.

Minnesota can compete with both those teams.

Cant say I know enough about all 3 teams, but it seems like a stretch for G to prefer to go to Minny unless he thinks it the best return for the team and he plans on coming back to Philly next year. I could see one of the Fla teams or the Avs. He should be thought of as an emergency C but more so a wing.

 

[Digitalbooya]

Okay then you're not getting Hertl as your new 1c.

I can live with not having Hertl if the price is Boldy. Boldy fits way better with Minnesota's cap issues coming up.