Value of: Giroux to MIN

[TheKingPin]

Giroux has a NMC. Not sure I see him waiting for the wild but who knows. He may not waive at all.

 

[ThatGuy22]

Giroux has a NMC. Not sure I see him waiting for the wild but who knows. He may not waive at all.

Probably not many better situations for him. Wild have great wings, with sub par Cs. Whether its between boldy and Fiala or zuccerello and Kaprizov, he would have a chance to make a great offense even better.

Mostly likely linemates would be boldy/Fiala. So he likely would see weak match ups with plenty of offensive support and opportunity.

 

[Pantokrator]

I don't see how a team would part with more than a first for Giroux since he is UFA. Maybe a first and some useless junk just to rid salary. If you have an overpaid player with no upside and is just deadweight, I'm pretty sure Fletcher would take it. Probably Giroux for a first plus the dead weight contracts of Parise and Suter. Or maybe Fletcher only takes a 2nd plus the dead weight contracts. He probably wants to help his former franchise because Fletcher is a nice guy. Then we'll trade you back high draft picks and prospects to take bad contracts from us to get in Cap compliance. I pretty much trust Fletcher to insure the Flyers are a bad franchise for years to come.

 

[BrindamoursNose]

Probably not many better situations for him. Wild have great wings, with sub par Cs. Whether its between boldy and Fiala or zuccerello and Kaprizov, he would have a chance to make a great offense even better.

Mostly likely linemates would be boldy/Fiala. So he likely would see weak match ups with plenty of offensive support and opportunity.

Giroux has played LW for the last 3 years

 

[ThatGuy22]

Giroux has played LW for the last 3 years

I know, and understand that. He would play C with the Wild and surely be better than Freddy Gaudraeu between Fiala and Boldy.

Not expecting him to carry a good scoring line, expecting him to be better than a 4C playing on an already good scoring line.

 

[Dr Jan Itor]

I don't see how a team would part with more than a first for Giroux since he is UFA. Maybe a first and some useless junk just to rid salary. If you have an overpaid player with no upside and is just deadweight, I'm pretty sure Fletcher would take it. Probably Giroux for a first plus the dead weight contracts of Parise and Suter. Or maybe Fletcher only takes a 2nd plus the dead weight contracts. He probably wants to help his former franchise because Fletcher is a nice guy. Then we'll trade you back high draft picks and prospects to take bad contracts from us to get in Cap compliance. I pretty much trust Fletcher to insure the Flyers are a bad franchise for years to come.

Can’t trade those, but we do have Rask.

 

[captainpaxil]

Flyers needs are rhd and c prospect wise. First round pick is the second asset

 

[SnS]

I’m not sure there’s a fit from both sides that will make sense.


We need center and RHD prospects. The pick is the second asset in the trade, IMO.

 

[1865]

First we get Fletcher from you and now you want Giroux from us?

 

[TheKingPin]

Probably not many better situations for him. Wild have great wings, with sub par Cs. Whether its between boldy and Fiala or zuccerello and Kaprizov, he would have a chance to make a great offense even better.

Mostly likely linemates would be boldy/Fiala. So he likely would see weak match ups with plenty of offensive support and opportunity.

He can play center and if traded I’m sure he will advertised to play center. But he is more towards a wing that takes face offs on his side. Wherever he plays he will be play driving though.

Nice wings for sure. Maybe go center heavy in this draft and keep the first or even trade up would make more sense.

 

[GuerinUp]

id do 1st + marat/orourke/hunt + rask for giroux

should have the cap space to make that work without retention

 

[Spurgeon]

id do 1st + marat/orourke/hunt + rask for giroux

should have the cap space to make that work without retention

There’s no way Guerin is giving up a 1st and our 2nd best center prospect for 2 months of Giroux IMO. It’s such an unnecessary gamble to make on a team that needs to rebuild through ELCs over the next 3 seasons.

 

[GuerinUp]

There’s no way Guerin is giving up a 1st and our 2nd best center prospect for 2 months of Giroux IMO. It’s such an unnecessary gamble to make on a team that needs to rebuild through ELCs over the next 3 seasons.

marat is pulling a kaprizov in russia, so theres 2 ways to look at that... either way, we wont be seeing him on the big club for at least 2 years.

 

[Spurgeon]

marat is pulling a kaprizov in russia, so theres 2 ways to look at that... either way, we wont be seeing him on the big club for at least 2 years.

Regardless of all that, the 1st is valuable and Marat can be valuable in 24-25 when he’s on an ELC in the final year of the dead cap plus the final year of Kaprizov’s contract the following season. Having Rossi and Marat on an ELC could be critical to the competitiveness of that 24-25 team. If this team wants to remain competitive over the next 3 seasons, it’s going to need 1st round picks and prospects to step up on ELCs. Trading away those assets for maybe a 2% higher chance of winning the cup this season just feels shortsighted.

 

[1865]

I’m not sure there’s a fit from both sides that will make sense.


We need center and RHD prospects. The pick is the second asset in the trade, IMO.

There's not a lot we don't need right now.

 

[GuerinUp]

Regardless of all that, the 1st is valuable and Marat can be valuable in 24-25 when he’s on an ELC in the final year of the dead cap plus the final year of Kaprizov’s contract the following season. Having Rossi and Marat on an ELC could be critical to the competitiveness of that 24-25 team. If this team wants to remain competitive over the next 3 seasons, it’s going to need 1st round picks and prospects to step up on ELCs. Trading away those assets for maybe a 2% higher chance of winning the cup this season just feels shortsighted.

i understand your hesitancy, and it is warranted. However, there is a chance say if we picked up giroux, and traded fiala at the draft, that we could resign giroux. which has value as well.

 

[57special]

First we get Fletcher from you and now you want Giroux from us?

Minnesota Nice

 

[Dooble08]

I don't see how a team would part with more than a first for Giroux since he is UFA. Maybe a first and some useless junk just to rid salary. If you have an overpaid player with no upside and is just deadweight, I'm pretty sure Fletcher would take it. Probably Giroux for a first plus the dead weight contracts of Parise and Suter. Or maybe Fletcher only takes a 2nd plus the dead weight contracts. He probably wants to help his former franchise because Fletcher is a nice guy. Then we'll trade you back high draft picks and prospects to take bad contracts from us to get in Cap compliance. I pretty much trust Fletcher to insure the Flyers are a bad franchise for years to come.

I'm not convinced you know who Claude Giroux is.....

 

[AKL]

Regardless of all that, the 1st is valuable and Marat can be valuable in 24-25 when he’s on an ELC in the final year of the dead cap plus the final year of Kaprizov’s contract the following season. Having Rossi and Marat on an ELC could be critical to the competitiveness of that 24-25 team. If this team wants to remain competitive over the next 3 seasons, it’s going to need 1st round picks and prospects to step up on ELCs. Trading away those assets for maybe a 2% higher chance of winning the cup this season just feels shortsighted.

It is

 

[ponder719]

You can have Giroux if you take Fletcher and Flahr back.

 

[BuiumSaveUs]

You can have Giroux if you take Fletcher and Flahr back.

pass

 

[Maurice of Orange]

Flahr did draft Filip Johansson…

Filip Johansson signed an extension to stay in Sweden, Minnesota may lose his rights in June.

 

[Dr Jan Itor]

Filip Johansson signed an extension to stay in Sweden, Minnesota may lose his rights in June.

Sweet. Extra 2nd round pick.

 

[heisenbergsitti]

Filip Johansson signed an extension to stay in Sweden, Minnesota may lose his rights in June.

If Minnesota doesn't offer him, they will lose him for nothing, not even get a 2nd round pick! Our beat writer reported, Minnesota can still offer home and him say no , or yes. But if Minnesota doesn't offer, they don't get a 2nd round pick

 

[Dod93Cityt]

Boldy + '23 1st?