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NeelyWasAWarrior said:
To even put that in is the most silliest things ever. It's like, lets be technical just to be technical.

I believe in the spirit of the rule. Have a guy half a step offsides is not what the rule makers had in mind. PERIOD.
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Sharkbomb said:
No icing would not make the game more exciting at all. It would make it really easy for teams under pressure to get immediate relief by just flipping the puck to break offensive momentum with the additional bonus of being able to change lines, it would completely destroy the speed of the game. It would make hockey more similar to soccer by enabling parking-the-bus tactics that would reduce scoring.
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I didn't think my post required the sarcasm smiley, but here we are, lol.
 
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NeelyWasAWarrior said:
To even put that in is the most silliest things ever. It's like, lets be technical just to be technical.

I believe in the spirit of the rule. Have a guy half a step offsides is not what the rule makers had in mind. PERIOD.
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I actually agree with this in principal and I can't stand when they start measuring toenails, but Lehkonen was in f***in Utah.

That's exactly the type of non-call the review was put in to address.
 
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Players know what offsides is, they need to be more careful when entering the zone. It's the players fault for being offside not the leagues.
 
Sweetpotato said:
Just change how offside works. Reviews were a Pandora's box, it's open and not going to go away.

You can carry the puck offside but you can't pass it offside. Done. Problem solved.
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So you can have 2 people net hang while Hughes, MacKinnon, or McDavid dances up the middle? Sounds like a disaster waiting to happen.
 
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NeelyWasAWarrior said:
To even put that in is the most silliest things ever. It's like, lets be technical just to be technical.

I believe in the spirit of the rule. Have a guy half a step offsides is not what the rule makers had in mind. PERIOD.
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No. It should still exist. But it should be tweaked. After the TV smashing idiocy of the lack of offsides calls in the Pens/Flyers series where the Flyers got a goal with a player taking a pass at the top of the lane in between the circles and it not getting called no f*** that keep the review in till the end of time.

Should the rule be tweaked…. Yes. But just tweak it. My suggestions in the past have been the offside is revolved if something plus or minus around these standards happens… A: There’s more than 10 seconds of sustained possession in the zone. B: The is a change in possession and recovery of the play while still in zone. C: If there has been 3 completed passes in zone.

Those are just rudimentary requirements. But if they made tweaks to it along those lines it would improve it greatly.

But getting ride of it completely. f*** that I’ll never before for removing it.
 
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I've watched quite a few games with people who don't normally watch hockey these playoffs and it's so obvious how these ridiculous offsides challenges turn them off from being an actual fan of the sport.

Like how dumb is it to explain how a millimeter of the skate raised 45 seconds before the goal means it shouldn't count. It makes 0 sense to casual fans

I don't think they should get rid of it completely, but there have been multiple instances these playoffs where the offsides was either minuscule or inconsequential (and I don't have a dog in this fight)
 
one thing video reviews have taught me is that I don't know the rules of hockey :P
It also taught me you pretty much need a degree in offsideology to know.

Even the high sticking review in the Edmonton series got me to thinking. It's ok to high stick the puck if someone from the other team takes control after or something. With what I recall a few other caveats. The whole time I'm just trying to understand the rules purpose. I'm guessing it's so players don't wave their sticks in the air all the time. So just not allow any high stick contact? regardless of who touches it after? Is it to prevent them from doing it on purpose to get a whistle?
 
As much as it’s bummer for my team (Colorado had the game tying goal called off) I think it should stay. It’s right up there with reviewing the puck crossing the line in my opinion.
 
D Wakaluk said:
Wanna cheer for a goal? No, go f*** yourself. Just watch every zone entry and hope they stay onside and if it looks off, hope they never score a goal.
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It's more like, wanna cheer for a goal? Hold that thought, the refs need to ask the coach of the team that allowed the goal, who takes almost a minute watching a replay from a tablet. The coach challenges it, so now the refs and T'rana watch it from a tablet for 5 minutes. After this the goal is up for a vote at town hall, if the vote passes, you can cheer for the goal.
 
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I work on a satellite program where we know where our satellites are, moving at thousands of km/hr through space, to centimeter level accuracy. Without being in communication with the satellite. Without any form of reflector or ranging. Using GPS alone.

To think we can’t know where the puck and every player’s two skates are virtually instantaneously is dumb. The refs have no business calling goals or offsides.
 
No. I want calls to be right.

There is zero argument I have heard for getting rid of this that has sold me. Even if the other team has been in the zone for a while after the initial missed call...the point is THEY ENTERED THE ZONE AND MAINTAINED POSSESSION IN AN ILLEGAL FASHION.

It's one of the few calls that is totally black and white. Leave it and just get over that it's a boner kill sometimes.

ijuka said:
Getting rid of the offside review is a bit much, but I'd like something like a 10 second time limit. It's stupid to have a goal called off because of an offiside 45 seconds ago.
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Not logical.

Whether or not it's been one second or sixty, you entered the zone illegally. Neither that one second or sixty seconds would have taken place had the correct call been made in the first place.
 
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Carlzner said:
I've watched quite a few games with people who don't normally watch hockey these playoffs and it's so obvious how these ridiculous offsides challenges turn them off from being an actual fan of the sport.

Like how dumb is it to explain how a millimeter of the skate raised 45 seconds before the goal means it shouldn't count. It makes 0 sense to casual fans

I don't think they should get rid of it completely, but there have been multiple instances these playoffs where the offsides was either minuscule or inconsequential (and I don't have a dog in this fight)
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Somehow I don't think someone being or not being a hockey fan hinges on offside review. Also, are you sure you own views on it weren't influencing their feelings as well?
 
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Nope. Offsides is a "hard" rule. There are very specific parameters to the game. It either is or isn't. It doesn't matter how much time or play has elapsed since the off-sides. It's irrelevant because the play should have been blown dead.

I get Avs fans being mad over last nights call. But what if Seattle's two goals were pucks that only crossed the goal line 75%. I mean, close enough...right? The spirit is, you put the puck in the net...so 75% of the way across the line is within the spirit of the rule, no? Would that be okay? No? Okay then.

Offsides is a hard and fast rule. The reviews make sure the right call is made. Keep it. 1000%.
 
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ItsFineImFine said:
Get rid of the offside, don't need it, replace with the three-line pass for all my anti cherry-picking needs.
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Not enough, give each teams coach a paintball gun and they are allowed to shoot 20 rounds at opposing players during the entire game. I keep hearing about coaches needing to take a more active role in their teams game... this would be the perfect opportunity.
 
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I just find it odd that the NHL enforces offside by the book but icing is this nebulous subjective thing and if you dump the puck in just behind the red line its "close enough."
 
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Dr Pepper said:
The zone entry was seven seconds before the goal was scored - I like how the ref even noted the time on the clock, don't think I've ever heard that before.

But it is pretty annoying to have a linesman miss the call in real time and then face no repercussions for it. Or maybe he does, behind the scenes, who knows. I doubt it.



I thought this was about the Colorado goal that got called back, was there another one in the Bruins game? Must've missed it.
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There is an official evaluation process for linesmen and referees. They get evaluated regularly, especially during the playoffs.

This review process is analyzed at the end of the season to determine which officials get to officiate the Playoffs, and is done at the end of every round to determine which officials get to continue on as the number of games decreases. They can receive fines and suspensions, and sometimes can even be forced to retire under duress if they just aren't cutting it anymore.

I would imagine the linesman who missed the offside call which could have severely shifted the outcome of the game will get quite a demerit for this blunder.
 
The irony is that Duchene played for Colorado when he was 80 feet offside and led to the need for review, and this comes out after another offside from Colorado.
 
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