Player Discussion Gerard Gallant

[SnowblindNYR]

We are 4-1 against the metro so far. I have no doubt they will hold their own against the rest of the division.

Our only loss was in the first game with a brand new head coach and Georgiev in net.

 

[SnowblindNYR]

I like him a lot but to play devil's advocate is he that great or was Quinn just really bad. Both coaches have some very good talent. The Rangers easily have a top 10 most talented roster in the NHL and had the same last season. Though last season was a really tough spot playing the hardest division and Mika's early season Covid struggles.

 

[Irishguy42]

This team has been mostly trending better ever since GG started growing that moustache.

Pretty easy to see the cause and effect here...

 

[cwede]

... Rangers easily have a top 10 most talented roster in the NHL and had the same last season..

Love our guys, but dunno if this is accurate or widely agreed...

 

[Chaels Arms]

I was OK with both Torts and AV. They both had serious flaws which became more problematic the longer they were at the helm but I still believe they are both very good NHL coaches.

DQ is the anomaly for me in this string of coaches. Absolutely horrendous.

I love Gallant. I am sure his flaws will also begin to manifest themselves as the season goes on and he will start doing certain annoying things but no matter what it's a huge improvement over his predecessor.

I have said it in other threads but DQ would never have pulled Georgiev to start the third period in a tie game like Gallant did. He never would have dug into Zibanejad like Gallant did in the middle of a huge teamwide celebration. He just did not have the prestige Gallant has with NHL players which lets him get away with power moves like that.

For those who have watched the Wire the difference between Gallant and DQ is similar to when new Baltimore teacher Prezbylewski was yelling at his class to calm down to no avail and then the veteran assistant principal walked in and all the students immediately sat down and stopped talking without her even having to say anything.

 

[ThirdEye]

We have a lot of "immature" talent. As of now I think we're outside the top 10 looking in, but will be in the conversation in a year or two.

 

[Shesterkybomb]

If we go through the same crap we went through last year with shesterkin injured, zibs covid, panarins putin, and all the other injuries and covid issues we'd end up in the same spot at the end of the year as last year. I was all for Gallant coming but to say that all that happened to fix this was a coaching change is really underselling what happened to us last year.

 

[Chimpradamus]

I like him a lot but to play devil's advocate is he that great or was Quinn just really bad. Both coaches have some very good talent. The Rangers easily have a top 10 most talented roster in the NHL and had the same last season. Though last season was a really tough spot playing the hardest division and Mika's early season Covid struggles.

If we put it that way, Vigneault was so bad as a coach the organization was open for basically anyone else. Quinn was still better than Vigneault (not difficult to achieve). Last season the Flyers were dead last in goals against and they lambasted their goalie. Hmm, never seen that happen when Vigneault is coaching before (VAN/ NYR/ PHI, etc). Because all the glorious backdoor goals are the goalie's fault. So the goalie starts cheating, allowing softies to compensate for the non-existant defensive system. And so on...

At least Quinn didn't convince the franchise your incompetence should force the franchise to rebuild before they really had to. I think Vigneault was the worst coach the team has ever had since 2005. He was a moron.

 

[will1066]

This team has been mostly trending better ever since GG started growing that moustache.

Pretty easy to see the cause and effect here...

And after Blais left.

 

[Rangerfan4life90]

I think Vigneault was the worst coach the team has ever had since 2005. He was a moron.

LOL, no. AV may have worn out his welcome towards the end for sure, but very ludicrous to say he was the worst coach since 2005. If anything, he was the best since then. His first two years or so (especially 1st) coaching the Rangers was the best I had ever seen. The rangers also win the cup in 2014 if they play any team but the Kings.

 

[NickyFotiu]

I liked him as a player. He was a underrated scorer. While not big he was tough and did not back down.

 

[Chimpradamus]

LOL, no. AV may have worn out his welcome towards the end for sure, but very ludicrous to say he was the worst coach since 2005. If anything, he was the best since then. His first two years or so (especially 1st) coaching the Rangers was the best I had ever seen. The rangers also win the cup in 2014 if they play any team but the Kings.

No. If NYR actually had a competent, offensive coach leading them in 2014, NYR would've won the Cup. Everyone and their mother learn how to counter AV's stretch pass and then his team is cooked. After all tendencies and discipline to defend the net were gone from Torts, the team was cooked.

There's a reason AV never won a Cup. His strategy isn't good enough and implodes as soon as his strategy is read like an open book. Fine in the regular season, a disaster once the opponents can hone into you in multiple games.

 

[JohnC]

No. If NYR actually had a competent, offensive coach leading them in 2014, NYR would've won the Cup. Everyone and their mother learn how to counter AV's stretch pass and then his team is cooked. After all tendencies and discipline to defend the net were gone from Torts, the team was cooked.

Pure revisionist history. We were out skilled and outmuscled in that series. It was the absolute worst matchup for us. We win the cup that year if we played Chicago.

 

[leetch99]

We still look bad often times and are way too stationary when cycling the puck but I’ll give the team time. Hard to argue with the results. I jumped out of my seat watching Laf go after Pageau tonight, we’re building a great culture here. He does remind me of bit of Torts, he has a heart of gold and loves his players, may be a bit of a softie deep down; but he’ll fiercely defend his players and stand up to the media, refs, etc.

LOL...he might have a soft side....but DO NOT get him angry . Many of us remember him on the ice as a Red Wing and he was also a bodyguard for Pat LaFontaine in the Quebec junior league back in the day with Verdun . Gerard Gallant knew what to do when the gloves hit the ice and he was far from a big guy at that time when the fighters were HUGE . This covers much of his history....well detailed . 1981 NHL Entry Draft -- Gerard Gallant

 

[leetch99]

LOL...he might have a soft side....but DO NOT get him angry . Many of us remember him on the ice as a Red Wing and he was also a bodyguard for Pat LaFontaine in the Quebec junior league back in the day with Verdun . Gerard Gallant knew what to do when the gloves hit the ice and he was far from a big guy at that time when the fighters were HUGE . This covers much of his history....well detailed . 1981 NHL Entry Draft -- Gerard Gallant

I kind of had forgot about his suspension on his manhandling the official...likely some video on that somewhere on the net.

 

[THE BIG WHISTLE]

Pure revisionist history. We were out skilled and outmuscled in that series. It was the absolute worst matchup for us. We win the cup that year if we played Chicago.

But yet lost that series by just 3 goals!!!

 

[SnowblindNYR]

Pure revisionist history. We were out skilled and outmuscled in that series. It was the absolute worst matchup for us. We win the cup that year if we played Chicago.

Based on what? I'm one of the people that thinks the LA series was much closer than 4-1 but that's a long way away from being sure we WOULD have beaten Chicago.

 

[AIexisLafreniereNYR]

LOL, no. AV may have worn out his welcome towards the end for sure, but very ludicrous to say he was the worst coach since 2005. If anything, he was the best since then. His first two years or so (especially 1st) coaching the Rangers was the best I had ever seen. The rangers also win the cup in 2014 if they play any team but the Kings.

I think he worn out his welcome during the playoffs we went to the SCF. You just saw how much he couldn’t make any in game adjustments. I liked AV at first but it was quickly noticeable how stubborn he was. Especially the Tanner Glass love.

 

[Hire Sather]

Torts and AV were pretty damn good coaches here.

They got so much hate here but they had good runs and their time just expired

 

[Rangerfan4life90]

No. If NYR actually had a competent, offensive coach leading them in 2014, NYR would've won the Cup. Everyone and their mother learn how to counter AV's stretch pass and then his team is cooked. After all tendencies and discipline to defend the net were gone from Torts, the team was cooked.

There's a reason AV never won a Cup. His strategy isn't good enough and implodes as soon as his strategy is read like an open book. Fine in the regular season, a disaster once the opponents can hone into you in multiple games.

He didn't win a cup due to bad luck, not because his strategy isn't good enough. Vancouver would have won the cup without all those injuries, and the Rangers would have likely won it if they played any team but the Kings.

 

[SnowblindNYR]

He didn't win a cup due to bad luck, not because his strategy isn't good enough. Vancouver would have won the cup without all those injuries, and the Rangers would have likely won it if they played any team but the Kings.

Honest to God, where is this coming from? Were they bad matchup for us? Yes. But how can be so sure they would have beaten a team like Chicago that won 3 cups in 6 seasons? Such a homer take on this board.

 

[Hire Sather]

Rangers would have beaten Chicago and the Mets would have beaten Toronto

I should have had two titles within a year and a half

A crying shame.

Of course it was no slam dunk but I think it was pretty likely

 

[Rangerfan4life90]

Honest to God, where is this coming from? Were they bad matchup for us? Yes. But how can be so sure they would have beaten a team like Chicago that won 3 cups in 6 seasons? Such a homer take on this board.

I said likely, not that it would have happened for sure. As a whole, the Rangers would have matched up better with the Hawks than the Kings.

 

[SnowblindNYR]

I said likely, not that it would have happened for sure. As a whole, the Rangers would have matched up better with the Hawks than the Kings.

That's true, but likely means >50%, no? More likely? Sure.

 

[Miamipuck]

Pure revisionist history. We were out skilled and outmuscled in that series. It was the absolute worst matchup for us. We win the cup that year if we played Chicago.

I don't know they lead in pretty much every game. It wasn't a great coaching job that series and yes no doubt Chicago was a better match up.

I honestly think with a better coach plan they could have won that series.