Speculation: 2024/25 Trade Rumours, Speculation etc Thread

[Jets 31]

If your not giving up much, your not getting much.. so why even bother…
Swing big or go home..
Two 1st round picks, a prospect or two should get you there for Dobson

Yes i would deal picks and a prospect but that's not going to get you a 1st line defenseman especially when our 1st is basically a 2nd .And how big do we have to go? We are currently the best team in the league.

 

[BobTheSolarsystem]

Cant see anaheim jacking the guy but vatrano has no trade protection and 3 more years at faur value... def fits jets work ethic

 

[SLAYER]

Cant see anaheim jacking the guy

 

[10Ducky10]

If your not giving up much, your not getting much.. so why even bother…
Swing big or go home..
Two 1st round picks, a prospect or two should get you there for Dobson

That's a LOT to give up for someone on pace for 46 points.

 

[CanMerc]

 

[DRW204]

comparing a Dobson trade to another high-pick/name-value RD...

Seth Jones + a 2021 1st (32nd overall) + 2022 6th was traded for

Boqvist (3 years removed from being 8th OA, 76gp 29 pts)
2021 1st (12th overall)
2021 2nd (44th overall)
2022 1st (unknown at the time; ended up being 6th overall)

the 2021 1st (32nd) and the 2021 2nd (44th overall) probably cancel out as their pretty close in selection spots. I think Seth Jones had higher name value than Dobson at the time.

 

[Wpgpage]

Hopefully we will start to see some moves coming out of the 4 Nation's. I think they move Ville out right away it's clear that he needs a fresh start and the organization at this point will get more value out of the pick and the additional cap space than the insurance policy of having him around is worth. Detroit & PIT are both teams that may have some interest both have multiple mid round picks and both could use a lottery ticket on the left side. I highly doubt Elliott mentioned Ville specifically on 32 Thoughts without getting a nudge from someone (Ville's Agent). Ville plus a lower pick from the Jets 5th / 6th should net a 3rd in return.

Montreal is far enough back that they will start to sell. Armia for something like a 3rd and a 5th should get it done. Armia would be a huge improvement on Barron and Appleton at 5 on 5 and he is an excellent penalty killer. Obviously knows the organization well would be easy to integrate into this group. Minimal risk good upside get it done Chevy.

 

[Huffer]

Hopefully we will start to see some moves coming out of the 4 Nation's. I think they move Ville out right away it's clear that he needs a fresh start and the organization at this point will get more value out of the pick and the additional cap space than the insurance policy of having him around is worth. Detroit & PIT are both teams that may have some interest both have multiple mid round picks and both could use a lottery ticket on the left side. I highly doubt Elliott mentioned Ville specifically on 32 Thoughts without getting a nudge from someone (Ville's Agent). Ville plus a lower pick from the Jets 5th / 6th should net a 3rd in return.

Montreal is far enough back that they will start to sell. Armia for something like a 3rd and a 5th should get it done. Armia would be a huge improvement on Barron and Appleton at 5 on 5 and he is an excellent penalty killer. Obviously knows the organization well would be easy to integrate into this group. Minimal risk good upside get it done Chevy.

Nothing against Armia, but i like Appletons speed in the bottom 6.

 

[Buffdog]

Nothing against Armia, but i like Appletons speed in the bottom 6.

Armia likes to vanish for huge stretches after looking brilliant for a game

No interest whatsoever

 

[gojetsgo]

what is with this fan base and trying to reacquire it's former players

 

[KingBogo]

Armia likes to vanish for huge stretches after looking brilliant for a game

No interest whatsoever

Agreed there is no value in acquiring Armia. At best he is PB depth at this point. And is he any better than our other deep depth? I doubt it.

 

[Mortimer Snerd]

Figured as much with Dobson. Doesn't make much sense to deal a young number 1 RD.

Interesting on McCann. So sounds like he's also a no go.

As an aside I thought there would be more trades over the break. Maybe we see more movement next week when most of the players GMs are back from their vacations.

Fixed it for ya.

 

[Wpgpage]

what is with this fan base and trying to reacquire it's former players

He's available as an upcoming UFA, the cost should be very affordable, he is an excellent PK forward, hes scoring at a higher rate 5v5 then a than most of the guys in the bottom 6. I'm not suggesting he's the answer on the 2nd line but I think he's a heck of an upgrade on Barron and if they are able to upgrade 2C and Namestnikov drops down I'd much rather have Armia then Kupari as my 4th line RW. The fact that he played here before is a bonus he is a legitimately good fit for some of the holes they have in the forward group.

 

[Mortimer Snerd]

Cant see anaheim jacking the guy but vatrano has no trade protection and 3 more years at faur value... def fits jets work ethic

They just extended him. Not happening.

 

[gojetsgo]

He's available as an upcoming UFA, the cost should be very affordable, he is an excellent PK forward, hes scoring at a higher rate 5v5 then a than most of the guys in the bottom 6. I'm not suggesting he's the answer on the 2nd line but I think he's a heck of an upgrade on Barron and if they are able to upgrade 2C and Namestnikov drops down I'd much rather have Armia then Kupari as my 4th line RW. The fact that he played here before is a bonus he is a legitimately good fit for some of the holes they have in the forward group.

If he came dirt cheap then fine, but I don't want to down grade the speed of the bottom six for armia who will get less ice time on the jets then he does in mtl, if we get a 2c then a combo of barron/names/iaffalo/kurpari/gus would be more then fine

 

[CanMerc]

Zero interest in going backwards and bringing back Armia. Only Habs roster players I’d have any interest in are named Suzuki, Caulfield, and Slafkovsky

If Sam Bennett becomes available, he might be a fit.
6’1, 194lb, 28yr old, left shot C, making 4,425,000 then UFA after this season.
Current season stats are 18G, 17A, in 55GP

Unlikely Florida moves him, but you never know anymore, after the Rantanen trade

 

[Flair Hay]

I definitely see Armia as a useful depth piece that is a great playoff fit for 4th line/13th forward. Gus and Kupari have been solid in their own ways but Armia simply offers more imo

Not at the expense of a better upgrade, but seems like a good depth option for cheap?

 

[Mooche]

We've accumulated so many useful bottom six depth pieces over the years who can play a role if called upon.

Need to be trying to focus on clear improvements on areas which forces these sort of players down the line-up.

Armia ain't that.

 

[Whileee]

I definitely see Armia as a useful depth piece that is a great playoff fit for 4th line/13th forward. Gus and Kupari have been solid in their own ways but Armia simply offers more imo

Not at the expense of a better upgrade, but seems like a good depth option for cheap?

I don't like the idea. I don't see Armia as an upgrade on the Jets current 4th liners (Barron, Gus, Kupari, Iafallo), and they have Ford, AJF, Toninato in reserve. I could see a depth addition, but not at 3.4M cap hit. If the Jets want a player like that I think Tanev would add a different dimension with his speed and physicality.

I think they need to aim higher and look for a real solution at 2C, and keep their powder dry if not. The Jets seem likely to keep Ehlers but might lose him as a UFA, and might need to acquire another top-6 forward in the summer. As always, the 1st round pick is going to be more valuable around the Draft than it is now. The Jets' window will remain open for a few years, so it would be good to balance their asset management.

So, if they can get Nelson or ROR for a 1st, then it makes sense to take a shot. But they shouldn't use their top trade assets on players that aren't clear upgrades. Better to focus on some depth, instead.

 

[Jet]

I definitely see Armia as a useful depth piece that is a great playoff fit for 4th line/13th forward. Gus and Kupari have been solid in their own ways but Armia simply offers more imo

Not at the expense of a better upgrade, but seems like a good depth option for cheap?

I don't see the value. We already have great depth options, I don't see a measurable improvement.

Plus, what does that say to these guys who've been fantastic soldiers for us?

 

[Heldig]

I definitely see Armia as a useful depth piece that is a great playoff fit for 4th line/13th forward. Gus and Kupari have been solid in their own ways but Armia simply offers more imo

Not at the expense of a better upgrade, but seems like a good depth option for cheap?

I dont see the point.

Barron, Gustafsson, Kupari, Appleton, Toninato, Ford, J-Fjalby...

 

[surixon]

I don't see the value. We already have great depth options, I don't see a measurable improvement.

Plus, what does that say to these guys who've been fantastic soldiers for us?

Agreed, get someone who is capable of playing up or none at all.

 

[Flair Hay]

I don't like the idea. I don't see Armia as an upgrade on the Jets current 4th liners (Barron, Gus, Kupari, Iafallo), and they have Ford, AJF, Toninato in reserve. I could see a depth addition, but not at 3.4M cap hit. If the Jets want a player like that I think Tanev would add a different dimension with his speed and physicality.

I think they need to aim higher and look for a real solution at 2C, and keep their powder dry if not. The Jets seem likely to keep Ehlers but might lose him as a UFA, and might need to acquire another top-6 forward in the summer. As always, the 1st round pick is going to be more valuable around the Draft than it is now. The Jets' window will remain open for a few years, so it would be good to balance their asset management.

So, if they can get Nelson or ROR for a 1st, then it makes sense to take a shot. But they shouldn't use their top trade assets on players that aren't clear upgrades. Better to focus on some depth, instead.

Iafallo is better than Armia easily. But to me the other guys including Barron, that's just not true. Tanev I would love as well, even more than Armia.

And to your last sentence I agree. That's why I'm focusing on depth forwards, haha

2C would be nice but it's been an issue on and off for so long now...

 

[Whileee]

Iafallo is better than Armia easily. But to me the other guys including Barron, that's just not true. Tanev I would love as well, even more than Armia.

And to your last sentence I agree. That's why I'm focusing on depth forwards, haha

2C would be nice but it's been an issue on and off for so long now...

Armia is 3.4M cap hit, which is expensive depth.

I think the Jets could do with one more physical F as depth, but they need 3rd pair depth on D much more than at F.

I just don't see Armia as much of an upgrade on the current bottom 6-13 F, so why burn assets and cap space to acquire him?

 

[voyageur]

If the Jets decide to keep their 1st round pick this year, and just add spare parts at more bargain prices, I was wondering if anyone could give a scouting report on Haoxi (Simon) Wang of Oshawa. Does he seem like the kind of defenseman the Jets would be interested in drafting to move on from the Stanley experiment while still staying big on defense?

Armia is 3.4M cap hit, which is expensive depth.

I think the Jets could do with one more physical F as depth, but they need 3rd pair depth on D much more than at F.

I just don't see Armia as much of an upgrade on the current bottom 6-13 F, so why burn assets and cap space to acquire him?

Contacts are prorated so you'd be picking up around $850 000 of Armia's contract. The easy answer for me is penalty killing. Appleton's injury history would be #2.