Player Discussion Gerard Gallant

[Crease]

Gallant dying on the Nemeth hill is pretty lame. What does Zac Jones need to do to get an opportunity? It wont ultimately mean anything in the grand scheme but why not make a bold move at this point? So frustrating

Probably to appease the win-now vets.

 

[will1066]

In 2021, I was relieved of my duties as head coach for trying to play the way the players didn't want.

The irony is that my colleague and dear friend Gerard will see the same fate by doing the opposite.

 

[Ola]

Gallant dying on the Nemeth hill is pretty lame. What does Zac Jones need to do to get an opportunity? It wont ultimately mean anything in the grand scheme but why not make a bold move at this point? So frustrating

Don't get me wrong, I was one of the biggest opponents of the Nemeth signing. I went back and checked and saw that I pegged it as "brain dead":

BUT, I still think that we need to be more cautious requesting drastic changes late in the season by the coach. Not that many seasons ago I remember McD missing like 2-3 games in the POs and when he came back all everyone talked about was how he was going to need time to shake off the rust, and parallell everyone wanted AV to play like, what is the name of that Swiss PMD we had for a while? Raphael Diaz?, over Girardi. But this guy hadn't played a game in like 50 days. Then he later did get in to a game and was a disaster, and was thrashed for it.

With all this said, I do think that Gallant is to fault for not making this change earlier. My take at the deadline was that we should get a vet RD to play with Jones. Jones is the one that is the most "ready" of Schneider, Jones and Nils. He would be playing by now if Nemeth was a RD. Schneider is unbeliveable, but it takes so so much to be consistent this time of the year and I don't think I've ever seen a kid be able to at Schneider's age come in and play the role who plays and remain consistent. Not in "modern day" (last 10 years in this regard). Like from many perspectives its "easier" to play on the top pairing as a kid. Schneider will sit cold for long stretches and in those situations, when you name is called you really got to know what is coming for you so that you can prepare and get ready because your body won't be.

 

[bleedblue94]

This team needs a bonafide captain and there isn’t anyone on the roster worthy of the C.
I’d be extremely open to trading Panarin for a 1C worthy of the captaincy.

who is trading a 1c worthy of a captaincy for a soon to be 31 year old one dimensional winger making big money?

 

[CasusBelli]

who is trading a 1c worthy of a captaincy for a soon to be 31 year old one dimensional winger making big money?

Maybe Florida will give us Barkov at 50%.

(The sarcasm smiley seemed excessive)

 

[bleedblue94]

Maybe Florida will give us Barkov at 50%.

(The sarcasm smiley seemed excessive)

i actually saw someone here suggest that they would "listen" if florida offered lundell and two 1sts. wtf, you take the player alone and run laughing...

 

[mas0764]

Probably to appease the win-now vets.

POTD

i actually saw someone here suggest that they would listen if florida offered lundell and two 1sts. wtf...

I would consider that, yes. But I think Lundell is a 1C pretty soon. A PPG player who is a Selke defensive candidate. At age 20. And two firsts. And all that cap room. Yeah, I'd f***ing consider that.

It would shake up the team as we stand here today and we probably are immediately not as good tomorrow.

But we have a legit 1-2 punch down the middle at center and we are probably a better overall team once Lafreniere and Kakko develop with the balance.

And once again I'm ok looking at a year or two down the line instead of needing to try to win the Cup immediately, which as we are seeing, isn't such a hot idea.

 

[bleedblue94]

POTD



I would consider that, yes. But I think Lundell is a 1C pretty soon. A PPG player who is a Selke defensive candidate. At age 20. And two firsts. And all that cap room. Yeah, I'd f***ing consider that.

It would shake up the team as we stand here today and we probably are immediately not as good tomorrow.

But we have a legit 1-2 punch down the middle at center and we are probably a better overall team once Lafreniere and Kakko develop with the balance.

And once again I'm ok looking at a year or two down the line instead of needing to try to win the Cup immediately, which as we are seeing, isn't such a hot idea.

my point is if you think lundell is a 1c than you dont consider that, you take lundell without the picks and you laugh about it...

 

[mas0764]

my point is if you think lundell is a 1c than you dont consider that, you take lundell without the picks and you laugh about it...

Interesting point. I think the current production angle has to matter to a degree in negotiations though. You are selling a player with term coming off his second highest point total of his career, and you are getting back a kid who scored 44 points (in 60+ games).

I am over the moon high on Lundell and I wish endlessly we had tried to get up to acquire him instead of Schneider in 2020, but I don't think you can do a 1-for-1 swap.

 

[bleedblue94]

Interesting point. I think the current production angle has to matter to a degree in negotiations though. You are selling a player with term coming off his second highest point total of his career, and you are getting back a kid who scored 44 points (in 60+ games).

I am over the moon high on Lundell and I wish endlessly we had tried to get up to acquire him instead of Schneider in 2020, but I don't think you can do a 1-for-1 swap.

age and cap space balance it out for me. it isnt happening so it doesnt matter, but if we could land lundell for panarin at this stage of the franchise build and reconstruction I would be all about it. would be funny too with his bff bobrovsky down there as well. i dont think panarin's game is going to age well. I know he is finesse based which should make it easier on his body as he ages, but the main issue with his game is the over passing and perimeter nature of it at times, when players get older most dont seem to have a greater desire to go to the middle of the ice

 

[Bluto]

who is trading a 1c worthy of a captaincy for a soon to be 31 year old one dimensional winger making big money?

I don’t know man. Something would have to be added.
Kopitar maybe? Idk.

 

[Kords]

Props to the coach for not playing Nemeth. Don't think anyone actually expected him to bench the dude, glad he saw what we saw.

 

[GoAwayPanarin]

Props to the coach for not playing Nemeth. Don't think anyone actually expected him to bench the dude, glad he saw what we saw.

He would have done it earlier if Lindgren hadn't gotten hurt.

I think Gallant has had a pretty bad series overall but that one isn't on him.

 

[gump116]

Very concerned about Gallant as an in game coach. Even in wins, he’s like 5 steps behind a coach like Sullivan. Matchups, ice time, timeouts, etc. Was an awful sign in game 3 that Crosbys line kept being matched up against Zibanejad and we didn’t do anything to adjust until game 6. Even in game 6 we’re constantly putting out fourth liners or tired players after icing a or offensive zone face offs rather than going for the better matchup. Plus playing Trouba over Fox with Lindgren for big defensive zone face offs… just dumb all the way around

 

[TominNC]

Very concerned about Gallant as an in game coach. Even in wins, he’s like 5 steps behind a coach like Sullivan. Matchups, ice time, timeouts, etc. Was an awful sign in game 3 that Crosbys line kept being matched up against Zibanejad and we didn’t do anything to adjust until game 6. Even in game 6 we’re constantly putting out fourth liners or tired players after icing a or offensive zone face offs rather than going for the better matchup. Plus playing Trouba over Fox with Lindgren for big defensive zone face offs… just dumb all the way around

You have to leave out the tired players after icing.

 

[Doctyl]

Good to see we’re still calling for his firing

 

[Psycho for Perreault]

It took him until game 5 to realize Nemeth was costing him the series. At the very least I think the GG haters and GG lovers can agree that is a bit of a concern.

 

[SnowblindNYR]

Here's how I am evaluating Gallant:

He wasted a year of our number one overall franchise player's career.

He got completely out coached in the playoffs.

He lost control of his players in the playoffs.

The team won 50 games and had over 100 points, and got completely embarrassed in round one.

Trotz just became available. I'd seriously consider overpaying Trotz to come on as an assistant. Coach the defense. Give structure to the team. Gallant can take that anyway He wants. If he poops the bed to start the season, fire him and Trotz takes over.

Unless Carolina loses in round one and fires Rod the bod for some reason.

Why would arguably the best head coach in the NHL who has been a head coach for over 20 years want to come to the Rangers to be an assistant?

 

[Black Tank]

Take Kreider out and Brian Boyle has more PO game experience then almost the rest of the Rangers roster combined. Gallant's got a young inexperienced team and they've folded under the pressure many times but also crushed shitsburgh with their compete level when it counted. I think he's done a great job getting the franchise ready to contend for many years.

 

[hackeyman]

Maybe Florida will give us Barkov at 50%.

(The sarcasm smiley seemed excessive)

Excessive and not necessary .

 

[Inferno]

Gallant does some stupid things that ppl don't say anything about. Like, for example. Malkin scored that breakaway goal...and what 5 guys are out there next? Reaves, Rooney, motte, Schneider and Braun. 3 of those guys are having just brutal horrendous series...

All the momentum had shifted to the pens...and reaves was lucky he didn't take a penalty on that shift (it probably wasn't a penalty...but you could definitely see the refs calling it)

Zero feel for the game. Old school, let's hit and grind and turn the game around...that only works if your 4th line is good I get it..if it was Goodrow centering motte and hunt..I get it. That makes sense. That's a hard working grind line that can turn the game around...but throwing Schneider out there whose been arguably almost as bad as nemeth, and reaves whose a pylon with Rooney who has struggled big time?

It's things like that, which he gets away with, that pisses me off.


One of the things I loved about torts his he has such a great feel for which guys were going, and which weren't...and the guys who were going for big minutes... The guys who weren't got softer matchups to try and get them going.

Gallant just had no feel for that.

 

[LaffyTaffy13]

Very concerned about Gallant as an in game coach. Even in wins, he’s like 5 steps behind a coach like Sullivan. Matchups, ice time, timeouts, etc. Was an awful sign in game 3 that Crosbys line kept being matched up against Zibanejad and we didn’t do anything to adjust until game 6. Even in game 6 we’re constantly putting out fourth liners or tired players after icing a or offensive zone face offs rather than going for the better matchup. Plus playing Trouba over Fox with Lindgren for big defensive zone face offs… just dumb all the way around

Gallant doesnt believe in matchups. Hes not a great coach. His ability is totally dependent on the talent of his roster

 

[Chaels Arms]

Panarin and Copp are either hurt or drunk. They both look like they can't skate, receive passes or make passes. Strome has actually been OK by regular season Strome standards but the fact that Gallant is still under the impression that those three are his best line is what worries me most with Crosby possibly back in game 7. I am sounding like a broken record on this but I cannot comprehend why he doesn't put someone, anyone, on that line who can skate and play defense. This is the same coach who had Dryden Hunt with Panarin and Strome for large stretches of the regular season and now that that kind of mix might actually be warranted he just stubbornly sticks with two hobbled players and Strome. Just a ticking time bomb imo.

 

[Kravtsov420]

Panarin and Copp are either hurt or drunk. They both look like they can't skate, receive passes or make passes. Strome has actually been OK by regular season Strome standards but the fact that Gallant is still under the impression that those three are his best line is what worries me most with Crosby possibly back in game 7. I am sounding like a broken record on this but I cannot comprehend why he doesn't put someone, anyone, on that line who can skate and play defense. This is the same coach who had Dryden Hunt with Panarin and Strome for large stretches of the regular season and now that that kind of mix might actually be warranted he just stubbornly sticks with two hobbled players and Strome. Just a ticking time bomb imo.

Respectfully, I thought Strome has been even more ass than his usual self. He used to at least battle, but just suck. Now he doesn't even battle.

 

[Chaels Arms]

Respectfully, I thought Strome has been even more ass than his usual self. He used to at least battle, but just suck. Now he doesn't even battle.

Strome used to battle? When was this?

He hasn't taken an egregious offensive zone penalty every game which is what he usually does. So long as he doesn't do that he's exceeded my expectations.