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Some good news, some mixed. We're nowhere near Delta in terms of severity but I still wonder how this is going to present in years to come in patients. Disability is still disability. Many jobs require people to lift 25 to 50 lbs and some people just don't have the endurance, after being otherwise healthy. The effect on our economy down the road, just like every other country is going to be effected, but more importantly, the citizens therein are going to be dependent on medication to see them through and maintain their symptoms. For those that did not pass away and are effected, it is important to note that this was not just the flu or a cold and I hope the healthcare system is able to seriously undertake the effect on their quality of life. We did not track these numbers during the pandemic because we only tracked positive cases but those numbers will start to appear over the next year or so as individuals file for both disability and show up as "trends" during office visits.

State of Affairs: April 19

Last week, the WHO confirmed that we are, in fact, still in a pandemic. The Emergency Committee met recently and unanimously concluded it’s too soon to declare the emergency over. The Director General, Dr. Tedros, agreed: It’s far from being the time to drop our guard, this is the moment to work even harder to save lives.
In the latest WHO epidemiological report, every region in the world has decreasing trends. In even better news, the number of global deaths is the lowest it’s been since the pandemic began (see solid line in the figure below).
(WHO)
And while this is great news as a global aggregate, there are still a number of individual countries still in crisis from exploding case numbers, overwhelmed hospitals, and high death rates. For example, all eyes are on Shanghai, China, which is in full lockdown because of an exponential count in cases and low vaccination rates among older adults. In Canada, cases have begun to rise at a highly uncomfortable rate. In the U.K., the number of deaths is now higher than their first Omicron wave. Thankfully, their cases started decreasing again, so deaths will soon follow. In South Africa, cases are very low, but news of two Omicron sublineages, called BA.4 and BA.5, has taken hold. We don’t believe they will cause a dramatic sweep of cases across the globe like we saw with BA.1 and BA.2, though.

United States

In the past two weeks, cases in the U.S. have increased +39%, which is driven by increasing trends in 32 states. Given the holiday weekend, testing and case numbers will be off (more than usual) for a few days. Nonetheless, the BA.2 rise is more gradual than the explosion of Omicron we saw in January, which is of course welcome news. This is likely attributed to a relatively solid wall of Omicron immunity, given that 50% of Americans were infected during the first Omicron wave. The virus is having a more difficult time finding pathways to burn through.
By far, the most spread is in the Northeast. Washington DC is the case acceleration leader with +151% in cases in the past two weeks, followed by Pennsylvania (+100%), New York (+93%), Rhode Island (+88%), Delaware (+87%), and New Hampshire (+84%). There are 14 counties in the “orange” clustered within New York, according to the new CDC guidelines, which means everyone should wear a mask inside as hospitals will surge in ~3 weeks. The old CDC guidelines provide a bit more nuance to the state of affairs with transmission throughout the nation.
New CDC Guidance: Community Levels (top) versus Old CDC Guidance: Community Transmission (bottom) (CDC)
Wastewater is also slowly increasing, more so in the Northeast. As the figure below shows, wastewater is increasing much more quickly than case data. Again, I wouldn’t trust case numbers right now to determine behaviors: use case/wastewater/test positivity rate trends in your county instead.
National average of cases and wastewater surveillance trends, past 6 months. Biobot Analytics
Regional wastewater trends, past 6 weeks. Orange=Northeast;
Hospitalizations are only slightly increasing in the Northeast. They do lag by three weeks, so I’m hesitant to make sweeping claims but having the highest vaccination rates in the country will help. If BA.2 makes a big footprint in other parts of the U.S., like the South where some states have only 50% vaccinated, it will be interesting to see how hospitalizations hold up.

BA.2.12/BA.2.12.1

Health officials in New York are attributing high rates of spread to two new BA.2 daughter lineages: BA.2.12 and BA.2.12.1. In other words, BA.2 mutated. According to a genomic surveillance database, BA.2 has already mutated 21times, but the mutations in New York seem to have meaningful impact on a population-level spread.
(Trevor Bedford)
In particular, the daughter lineages are generating cases more quickly than the original BA.2 variant. Health officials estimate a 23–27% growth advantage per week above BA.2 variant cases. Cornelius Roemer, computational biologist in Switzerland, estimated that the growth advantage ranges from 30-90% per week.
The mutations, and thus growth advantage, could be due to two things:
  1. The virus mutated to increase transmissibility or contagiousness. This is the primary path variants took before Omicron; and/or,
  2. The virus mutated to improve its ability to escape immunity. This has largely been Omicron’s path of choice, but BA.2 chose #1 path, too.
The first daughter lineage (BA.2.12) is very similar to BA.2, so not much of concern. But, when we look closer at BA.2.12.1 there are two mutations on the spike protein to watch out for: S704L and L452Q. We pay attention to changes on the spike protein in particular because the spike is the key into our cells. If the key gets smarter or if it finds another door, we want to know about it.
We are actually quite familiar with L452Q, as it’s been found on other variants of concern, like Lambda, Delta, Delta plus, and Epsilon. In the lab, this mutation was shown to escape immunity. In particular, scientists found this mutation allows the virus to attach more strongly to human cells and avoid neutralizing antibodies, our first line of defense.
So, Omicron continues to change so it can continue to chip away at our immunity. We expect these small but meaningful changes will continue to occur over the next few months. This means we will be seeing more and more breakthrough infections in BA.2.12.1’s wake and beyond. We are confident, though, that the vaccines will continue to protect against severe disease and death.

Bottom line

A slow roar is starting in the U.S., but the Northeast is getting hit particularly hard with transmission. It’s not clear whether this will translate to the rest of the nation. Nonetheless, the virus is mutating to continue to escape our immunity.
Together, this may be a good excuse to get your booster and start wearing a mask in increasing trend areas. And yes, this means on planes, buses, and trains too.
Love, YLE
P.S. In response to thousands of your messages, I do not have an update on under 5 vaccines. You better believe that when I do, I will update you all. This mama of 2 kids under 5 is anxiously waiting, too...

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It was almost repealed until the people started standing up. Corps run deep in politicians pockets, remember per the Supreme Court in 2010, "corporations are people too".

If we didn't have that clause in ACA we'd really be screwed. If a denial takes place, someone should just seek out the State Insurance Commissioner and put some heat on them. That will usually do it.
 
Here is a news story on what is going on in Shanghai these days. The question is why am I watching this on WION, and not CNN, MSNBC, CBS, ABC (especially you Disney-owned ABC), and NBC?

Be advised this stuff is very disturbing to watch, so if you can't handle it, don't click on the video or the links.



Here's a Twitter link if you want some truth regarding a government using covid to exercise their power.



I saw this very story on CNN about ten days ago.

Then, over the weekend, also on CNN: a reporter from Shanghai said officials are going into every apartment and applying special tape over the balcony sliding glass doors so that people can no longer access their balconies.

I've been telling my wife it's time for the Chinese government to abandon "zero-COVID" policy and to accept the fact that Omicron can not be curtailed. She is non-commital...her family in China is intensely communistic and back the government. So I have to tread carefully in these discussions with her. Then again, they aren't affected by the lockdowns, as they reside in Sichuan Province.
 
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Dang, this is the lowest I remember the hosp and ICU numbers. 3.1 million people and only 60 are in the hospital for Covid. That is pretty darn good
 
Dang, this is the lowest I remember the hosp and ICU numbers. 3.1 million people and only 60 are in the hospital for Covid. That is pretty darn good
Correct me if i am wrong, but i thought i read this somewhere: the hospitalized Covid figures includes those who are in the hospital for something else (stroke, knee surgery, etc.) but test positive for CV. So that figure is incorrectly termed in hospital FOR covid, when it should be listed as in hospital WITH covid. Maybe all 60 are indeed in solely for Covid issues IDK.
 
Correct me if i am wrong, but i thought i read this somewhere: the hospitalized Covid figures includes those who are in the hospital for something else (stroke, knee surgery, etc.) but test positive for CV. So that figure is incorrectly termed in hospital FOR covid, when it should be listed as in hospital WITH covid. Maybe all 60 are indeed in solely for Covid issues IDK.
I really don't know the answer to that
If anyone knows the answer to this, it'll be @Papa Mocha 15


But assuming we have been playing by the same reporting rules the last 2 years it all should come out in the wash
 
Here is a news story on what is going on in Shanghai these days. The question is why am I watching this on WION, and not CNN, MSNBC, CBS, ABC (especially you Disney-owned ABC), and NBC?

Be advised this stuff is very disturbing to watch, so if you can't handle it, don't click on the video or the links.



Here's a Twitter link if you want some truth regarding a government using covid to exercise their power.



Because China doesn't want it reported.
 
I saw this very story on CNN about ten days ago.

Then, over the weekend, also on CNN: a reporter from Shanghai said officials are going into every apartment and applying special tape over the balcony sliding glass doors so that people can no longer access their balconies.

I've been telling my wife it's time for the Chinese government to abandon "zero-COVID" policy and to accept the fact that Omicron can not be curtailed. She is non-commital...her family in China is intensely communistic and back the government. So I have to tread carefully in these discussions with her. Then again, they aren't affected by the lockdowns, as they reside in Sichuan Province.
I found this recent story on CNN, but it doesn't mention the suicides. If you have a link to video that does, I would be interested in seeing how MSM is handling this story. You would think it would be getting a lot more coverage, but I don't believe any corporate media in America wants to "insult" the CCP with facts and truth.


 
Correct me if i am wrong, but i thought i read this somewhere: the hospitalized Covid figures includes those who are in the hospital for something else (stroke, knee surgery, etc.) but test positive for CV. So that figure is incorrectly termed in hospital FOR covid, when it should be listed as in hospital WITH covid. Maybe all 60 are indeed in solely for Covid issues IDK.

I mean I guess, but that seems like one of those things that's pointless to parse unless you're one of those folks going 'see hospitals are just trying to get extra money for covid funding'
 
I mean I guess, but that seems like one of those things that's pointless to parse unless you're one of those folks going 'see hospitals are just trying to get extra money for covid funding'
Nope. I'm genuinely interested in knowing how many people are in the hospital FOR covid -- that tells you the severity of the virus. Same as anything else like the Flu or some other virus. If something will put me in the hospital for it, then i'm taking note of it. If it's no symptoms or simply dealing with it at home, then it's a different story. So knowing if this is 60 people in the hospital solely for Covid it matters....versus say 25 of such + 35 people in for something else who happen to test positive.
 
Nope. I'm genuinely interested in knowing how many people are in the hospital FOR covid -- that tells you the severity of the virus. Same as anything else like the Flu or some other virus. If something will put me in the hospital for it, then i'm taking note of it. If it's no symptoms or simply dealing with it at home, then it's a different story. So knowing if this is 60 people in the hospital solely for Covid it matters....versus say 25 of such + 35 people in for something else who happen to test positive

They really don't splice it apart from people who are positive vs those who are there for a car wreck and happen to be positive in their numbers. Hospitals are good but admin is too stretched to separate them apart at most hospitals and my hospital is about as high tech as you can get since we are a Level I hospital and they are not doing it at mine. It's a dashboard broken down by dept and total number but doesn't break apart the diagnosis from cause of, just positive and bed assigned with initial diagnosis from ED which often changes. If someone comes in with respiratory failure/covid pneumonia they are sort of f***ed because it's far along vs car accident and covid positive.

That said, C19 does cause strokes and heart attacks as it induces a hypercoaguable state that creates clots. It also causes diabetics to go into DKA as well as children. But if you are looking at severity, then consider ICU levels and deaths. Going at the level of telemetry and medsurge status on the floors can point in too many direction which can be poorly categorized or mislabeled and not indicative of severity or disability. Also, many people don't want to be intubated and be DNR status so they may not be ICU eligible per their goals of care and you won't see their status, especially if they go home on hospice. I wish I had a better answer for you but our system is pretty trashed 3 years into the pandemic and it's a skeleton crew in terms of experience and accounting. Our system is so far worse off than where it was at the beginning of the pandemic. We did some things right and a lot wrong both as a system and as a country. Our death level was significantly higher than most countries. I think we placed 3rd in the world in deaths if I'm not mistaken by population ratio. Meanwhile, we were not getting extra pay for covid positive patients or extra funding and we were the place everyone was sending their patients to when they couldn't handle it at their own hospital. I'm not looking for extra pay, bonus or anything like that, just saying there was none offered or requested/given by the gov. that I'm aware of. We weren't making extra money off it and neither were the doctors I worked with by including it in the death certs.
 
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I found this recent story on CNN, but it doesn't mention the suicides. If you have a link to video that does, I would be interested in seeing how MSM is handling this story. You would think it would be getting a lot more coverage, but I don't believe any corporate media in America wants to "insult" the CCP with facts and truth.



That's one of two stories I saw on CNN. The video you linked to doesn't mention anything about suicides either. And neither did the twitter link you linked to, except down the stream there was a compendium of people leaping to their deaths from tall buildings, supposedly all in Shanghai and supposedly all recently.

Some of those looked mocked up, and others looked like pretty old video. I'm sure you could find video of people leaping to their deaths from the last 50 years just about anywhere in the world, as long as there has been personal cameras to catch such events...I mean, someone standing on top of a building for god knows how long can alert anyone who has a camera to start rolling, whether it's from 35 years ago or yesterday. I would be more critical of stuff coming from the twitter accounts of people from China or recently departed from China. You are either a full-on Communist, or hate the CCP with all your guts, and are willing to propagandize your position just as much as the CCP propagandizes there position. There doesn't seem to be any middle ground in China at all. There are a lot of poison pills out there, 17, and I can't believe all the vitriol I hear on both sides of the aisle of the argument. I do have a unique perspective in the community and I have learned a lot about China and its people the past 10 years, and in many cases much more than I ever wanted to know.
 
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Are they keeping data on indoor sporting events and and concerts? It would be interesting to see if case go up during the playoffs. Seeing all the EDM fans just screaming in game 1 along the glass had me wondering how many are spreading it there.
 
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Are they keeping data on indoor sporting events and and concerts? It would be interesting to see if case go up during the playoffs. Seeing all the EDM fans just screaming in game 1 along the glass had me wondering how many are spreading it there.
Not that I know of, but you can bet cases are going to rise as a result of attendance at sporting events, especially in hockey arenas, where the virus thrives in cold and dry environments.
 
Thanks for posting Ron, I forget I haven't updated the numbers

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Numbers are little higher but when they are this low...
As long as hospitalizations and deaths stay low, we will be ok. With so many people testing at home these days, the "daily covid positive cases received" is an almost meaningless metric now. It can only be used as a "trend" from week to week.

The current surge in the country as a result of the Omicron subvariant BA.2.12.1 will tell the tale as to a possible end to this thing...if hospitalizations and deaths can stay low, and in particular stay low during the coming winter months, that should do it. Just gotta avoid new variants...since we haven't really seen a new category of variants for six months now, that's really good news.
 
Just got back from the Doc since I've been having numbness in my body so had so my blood drawn. They said I'm mostly likely fine but I also might have a tumor in my kidney?? DOCTOR WTF.
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Oilers master plan, lose Nurse but then Trojan horse Covid to the Kings in game 6, so at worst it’s be a Pyrrhic victory for the Kings and at best, a chance to close it out at home with an even more depleted Kings squad due to Covid from Draisaitl.

 

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