General COVID-19 Talk #2, NHL Phase 2 begins early June Mod Warning post 1

[Lt Dan]

Ouch those deaths

 

[Bandit]

I think my school may be going the postponement route. We had a great plan, everything ironed out and set up but that's on the back burner now.

We are an Apple Distinguished school 8 years running, all students have school managed devices, and we have a robust system set up for remote lecturing and student interactions. It's not like Zoom or Teams, it's a dedicated system that can handle multiple devices from each user sending a feed. We basically have everything that 99% of other schools don't, and even some colleges. But even though we are fully equipped for distance learning, we are painfully aware that it doesn't really work for students who aren't at least in their Junior year.

One of my upper level classes this year is a hybrid course, primarily for students who take multiple AP classes so they can have time to manage their workload. It works for them without a hitch, they love it. For the rest of the students, it's all over the map. I can't count the times I got an email saying "sorry I missed the lecture, I was still sleeping. What did I miss?" This is for a f***ing 1:30 class. And this is at a school that costs a good amount to attend with really solid parental involvement.

My kid goes to a primary which a STEM curriculum that is pretty rigorous. He had a few hours of work per day, and even though his parents are both teachers it was still a struggle at times. This exposes the biggest problem with remote learning: the parents. Not that they don't mean well, I think the great majority of them do. But they don't know what to do or how to get their kids to do things. It's like throwing me in a hospital and saying "treat that guy over there". Yeah, well, he's gonna die. Just like most parents wanted to after a few weeks of having their kids at home. A lot of them gave up, then teachers gave up trying to get the students to do anything, and it ended up a big waste of time.

It’s not just kids, adults are notorious f*** offs when given the ability to “work from home”. I see it all the time, people struggle to focus when there are endless distractions.

 

[Fishhead]

It’s not just kids, adults are notorious f*** offs when given the ability to “work from home”. I see it all the time, people struggle to focus when there are endless distractions.

Yea we are probably worse, to be honest. "I really need to get this done. What's that? Another trade rumor?"

 

[KINGS17]

And this will very likely be the way it plays out, but not for the reasons you are contemplating.

It will play out this way because of the vast American Denial.

Because we refuse to admit that The Rona is a multi-year crisis, we will continue to make really bad decisions.

That’s the price of freedoms baby!

Sounds like you are rooting for a multi-year shutdown.

 

[cyclones22]

Sounds like you are rooting for a multi-year shutdown.

I find that thought process nuts. My company just had it's second wave of COVID layoffs. I have been fortunate to have been spared both times, but how much longer will my luck last? For the folks who are in favor of strict lockdown, how many of you have lost your jobs and are in danger of missing or have missed rent or mortgage payments? I'm genuinely curious. My friends who have been laid off, I hope they can keep their heads above water.

 

[Token]

Sounds like you are rooting for a multi-year shutdown.

Got nothing to do with cheerleading.

Just simple maths, arithmetic really, no magic here. Rudimentary figuring. Abacus territory.

Even the best case scenario, with an effective vaccine by end of year, take us three years out of this kind of crazy.

It ain’t the virus, it ain’t the technology, it’s the people.

Heck, we can’t get more than 40% of Americans to get the flu shot each year; you think we all gonna run out and take a vaccine for The Rona built into an unproven platform and marginally tested?

Nah, I’m just being prepared for the most likely outcome which is us doing nothing of consequence on a pitiful scale for a long time.

 

[KINGS17]

I find that thought process nuts. My company just had it's second wave of COVID layoffs. I have been fortunate to have been spared both times, but how much longer will my luck last? For the folks who are in favor of strict lockdown, how many of you have lost your jobs and are in danger of missing or have missed rent or mortgage payments? I'm genuinely curious. My friends who have been laid off, I hope they can keep their heads above water.

I, like you have been fortunate to be considered to be "essential" to the future success of the project on which I am working. However, a continued lockdown will eventually cause the investors (those filthy 1%'ers) to no longer see the need for the product they wish to produce as the end game of the project. Simply put, the product won't be needed, because its ultimate customers can no longer afford it.

The idea of staying locked down over an extended period of time is extremely shortsighted and unwarranted.

 

[KINGS17]

Got nothing to do with cheerleading.

Just simple maths, arithmetic really, no magic here. Rudimentary figuring. Abacus territory.

Even the best case scenario, with an effective vaccine by end of year, take us three years out of this kind of crazy.

It ain’t the virus, it ain’t the technology, it’s the people.

Heck, we can’t get more than 40% of Americans to get the flu shot each year; you think we all gonna run out and take a vaccine for The Rona built into an unproven platform and marginally tested?

Nah, I’m just being prepared for the most likely outcome which is us doing nothing of consequence on a pitiful scale for a long time.

For you, and those who share your "lock down" mentality, it's got nothing to do with the health issues created by poverty as well.

 

[The Tikkanen]

I was at a major hospital in OC yesterday, it was as quiet as a grave yard. For being in the middle of a pandemic I was able to park my car on the 3rd floor of the garage and have a nice little walk to get to my appointment. No sirens, no doctors running around with blood soaked scrubs, nothing.

 

[tny760]

real talk though, this would've been a 2 week lockdown if people would've just stayed the fuk home like they should have from the jump. even like 1 week mid-may when things were looking better would have probably ended it

everyone being stubborn at this point is just extending the process that they hate, rip the f***in scab off

 

[Rusty Batch]

real talk though, this would've been a 2 week lockdown if people would've just stayed the fuk home like they should have from the jump. even like 1 week mid-may when things were looking better would have probably ended it

everyone being stubborn at this point is just extending the process that they hate, rip the f***in scab off

If we would have completely shut down our borders permanently and had zero people go to work and every single person in the country agreed to stay inside, then yes. It would have worked. But that seems unrealistic to me, real talk.

 

[Token]

For you, and those who share your "lock down" mentality, it's got nothing to do with the health issues created by poverty as well.

I don’t have to lock anything down. I’m just a country farmer that likes hockey.

Sitting just fine up here in the Sierra Foothills where life has more or less been uninterrupted, other than schools and the DMV closing.

Like I said, prepared.

 

[LAKings88]

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[KINGS17]

I don’t have to lock anything down. I’m just a country farmer that likes hockey.

Sitting just fine up here in the Sierra Foothills where life has more or less been uninterrupted, other than schools and the DMV closing.

Like I said, prepared.

Hey, I am so happy for you. You live in a world of incredible pessimism and disdain for everyone else, but you have the Pollyanna of your farm where you don't need anyone else. Good luck with that!!

 

[LAKings88]

I was at a major hospital in OC yesterday, it was as quiet as a grave yard. For being in the middle of a pandemic I was able to park my car on the 3rd floor of the garage and have a nice little walk to get to my appointment. No sirens, no doctors running around with blood soaked scrubs, nothing.

Did you need an ICU bed? Did you walk through the ICU?

 

[Token]

Hey, I am so happy for you. You live in a world of incredible pessimism and disdain for everyone else, but you have the Pollyanna of your farm where you don't need anyone else. Good luck with that!!

Oh dear, did I make you sad?

Is there a touch of envy, some jealousy?

You got it! You figured me out! I’m the real-world Rust Cohle. Time is a flat circle.

 

[KINGS17]

Oh dear, did I make you sad?

Is there a touch of envy, some jealousy?

You got it! You figured me out! I’m the real-world Rust Cohle. Time is a flat circle.

Nah, nah. I think you should be proud and congratulate yourself for moving away from the rest of us morons, and for your own self sufficiency. You probably don't even use electricity, gasoline, medicines or wi-fi technology. How long did it take you to set up that hamster wheel to generate electrical power for your computer?

Actually, I pity you for being so disconnected from your fellow human beings, and uncaring about them as well.

 

[Token]

Nah, nah. I think you should be proud and congratulate yourself for moving away from the rest of us morons, and for your own self sufficiency. You probably don't even use electricity, gasoline, medicines or wi-fi technology. How long did it take you to set up that hamster wheel to generate electrical power for your computer?

Actually, I pity you for being so disconnected from your fellow human beings, and uncaring about them as well.

Yessir, I’m out here in my slice of paradise with front row seats, watching the world burn through the magic of “herd immunity”, or as Darwin called it “natural selection”.

And just so you know, us country bumpkins actually hitched a ride to the 21st century with solar, renewable energy, broadband and the likes cuz big gubbermint subsidizing our rural lifestyle made it easy on the urban dime.

And with telemedicine, mail order pharmacy, real good cutlery for the livestock ...

... I’m happy as a clam in my rocking chair on the front porch and my shotgun in the lap.

Heck, I even got an electric car cuz it was practically free with all the state and federal subsidies.

And my wells is all solar.

 

[Lt Dan]

Good news all around today.

Cases down, positive tests were only 6.4%
ICU down 18 cases
hospitalization is down from 692

 

[Chazz Reinhold]

I find that thought process nuts. My company just had it's second wave of COVID layoffs. I have been fortunate to have been spared both times, but how much longer will my luck last? For the folks who are in favor of strict lockdown, how many of you have lost your jobs and are in danger of missing or have missed rent or mortgage payments? I'm genuinely curious. My friends who have been laid off, I hope they can keep their heads above water.

That’s where a competent state would come in handy (see European democracies that paid companies to keep workers on the payroll, for example), but we don’t live in one, unfortunately. Instead, we have the impotent one-off federal response where the greatest share is benefitting a small number corporations and banks instead of the vast majority of Americans, and the patchwork state-by-state response essentially prevented this first wave from never ending and will only lead to worse economic outcomes as we go forward.

 

[KINGS17]

Yessir, I’m out here in my slice of paradise with front row seats, watching the world burn through the magic of “herd immunity”, or as Darwin called it “natural selection”.

And just so you know, us country bumpkins actually hitched a ride to the 21st century with solar, renewable energy, broadband and the likes cuz big gubbermint subsidizing our rural lifestyle made it easy on the urban dime.

And with telemedicine, mail order pharmacy, real good cutlery for the livestock ...

... I’m happy as a clam in my rocking chair on the front porch and my shotgun in the lap.

Heck, I even got an electric car cuz it was practically free with all the state and federal subsidies.

And my wells is all solar.

Wow, you accomplished all of that by yourself and still found the time to be a miserable human being.

Sometimes natural selection misses some rather obvious choices.

 

[Sol]

I wonder how much back the rioting protesting set us back. Seemed like things were looking better before it happened

 

[LAKings88]

I wonder how much back the rioting protesting set us back. Seemed like things were looking better before it happened

Beaches were flooded with people before that, we opened up a week or two before protest. Narrative seems to leave that out a lot.

 

[tny760]

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[Sol]

Beaches were flooded with people before that, we opened up a week or two before protest. Narrative seems to leave that out a lot.

I'm not talking about coastal only. Even then during the rioting unfortunately people were huddled up so close. I know the beaches were heavily monitored it.