Yeah but is that because they died?
Good news all around today.
Cases down, positive tests were only 6.4%
ICU down 18 cases
hospitalization is down from 692
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Did events like protests and bar reopenings lead to spikes in COVID-19 cases?
Beaches were not heavily monitored, they were packed leading them to being closed again. Either way, it doesn’t seem to be as bad with outdoor events as it is with sharing air in closed environments. Bars for instance or house parties.
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The only people I have seen with it are people who get it from coworkers, (some are people who knew they were positive and went to work anyway (dickheads)) or from family members. People are trying to not lose their jobs or just don't believe it's an issue. Anyway, I haven't seen any protesters with it. I also have never seen mild case either so whatever.
I did want to address the SNF issue. So SNFs are often patients who transferred from the hospital to get stronger before they go back home. Like from a fall, COPD, heart failure, surgery, infection and are just not strong enough to get home yet. Some are fighting infections like pneumonia or UTIs and have just gotten wiped out. But they are relatively stable. So if you stick 5 of these patients in the room in bed, alternating in the rehab room between doing Physical Therapy and resting to try to get stronger and these patients are usually older, close together..blah blah blah...you can see how these patients don't do so well because they are already compromised, close together. It's like a petrie dish. Most of the policies in a SNF are a little more lax than in a hospital because there is usually one RN caring for a number of patients and there are LVNs doing all the meds. On the hospital floors, we have strict ratios of 4 to 1 on cardiac floor, 2 to 1 in ICU. 4 to 1 in Emergency unless the patient is critical and 5 to Med Surge. Those rations don't exist in SNFs because the patients tend to be more stable. So basically, put a lot of sick people together with compromised immune systems and then it's like lions picking off a wildebeest when it comes to COVID. I just woke up so I'm not going to bother with fixing any grammar. Just wanted to chime in. Hope you all have a good day.
I did want to address the SNF issue. So SNFs are often patients who transferred from the hospital to get stronger before they go back home. Like from a fall, COPD, heart failure, surgery, infection and are just not strong enough to get home yet. Some are fighting infections like pneumonia or UTIs and have just gotten wiped out. But they are relatively stable. So if you stick 5 of these patients in the room in bed, alternating in the rehab room between doing Physical Therapy and resting to try to get stronger and these patients are usually older, close together..blah blah blah...you can see how these patients don't do so well because they are already compromised, close together. It's like a petrie dish. Most of the policies in a SNF are a little more lax than in a hospital because there is usually one RN caring for a number of patients and there are LVNs doing all the meds. On the hospital floors, we have strict ratios of 4 to 1 on cardiac floor, 2 to 1 in ICU. 4 to 1 in Emergency unless the patient is critical and 5 to Med Surge. Those rations don't exist in SNFs because the patients tend to be more stable. So basically, put a lot of sick people together with compromised immune systems and then it's like lions picking off a wildebeest when it comes to COVID. I just woke up so I'm not going to bother with fixing any grammar. Just wanted to chime in. Hope you all have a good day.
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probably the weekend effect. Numbers have always been low on the weekends and then shoot up around Tuesday
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Only in America are people forced to choose between risking their health and risking their livelihood.
The amount of people who still believe this lie of anarcho-capitalism at all costs is why we’re in this situation. Germany shutdown their entire country, negotiated with their unions so no one got laid off, and their citizens trusted them. Voila, German unemployment rose by a whopping 1%, their cases dropped off, and now they’re reopening.
America is a failed state. It failed in 2008, and will never recover without significant federal reform. It’s as simple as that. Covid just exposed it. Four decades of the Reganite investment class cooking their own books, buying politicians and regulations, exploiting labor, and divorcing the stock market from the actual labor economy has done its work.
I’m just really sick of people pretending like we had no choice. Why are we the only country struggling so much with this? Because the capitalist machine requires boots on the ground. Period. End of story. Sorry if you get sick. Good luck with those medical bills. And the bootlickers will defend this system to their dying breath.
End rant. Cheers from Nevada, by the way. We’re well on our way to Arizona territory.
The amount of people who still believe this lie of anarcho-capitalism at all costs is why we’re in this situation. Germany shutdown their entire country, negotiated with their unions so no one got laid off, and their citizens trusted them. Voila, German unemployment rose by a whopping 1%, their cases dropped off, and now they’re reopening.
America is a failed state. It failed in 2008, and will never recover without significant federal reform. It’s as simple as that. Covid just exposed it. Four decades of the Reganite investment class cooking their own books, buying politicians and regulations, exploiting labor, and divorcing the stock market from the actual labor economy has done its work.
I’m just really sick of people pretending like we had no choice. Why are we the only country struggling so much with this? Because the capitalist machine requires boots on the ground. Period. End of story. Sorry if you get sick. Good luck with those medical bills. And the bootlickers will defend this system to their dying breath.
End rant. Cheers from Nevada, by the way. We’re well on our way to Arizona territory.
Here's the latest data from my OC doctor friend. I didn't get info over the weekend. Since Friday, admissions flat in OC and at affiliated hospital in San Bernardino, which are the two I have been focusing on. Throughout the affiliated hospitals within the organization, admissions since Friday morning are flat. ICU admissions are up 7% since Friday. Increase in deaths per day is half of what they were on Friday. At a South Bay affiliated hospital, which I have not referenced before, admissions down by about 25% since Friday. On the other hand, about a 20% increase in admissions at an affiliated hospital in Riverside.
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Description made me think of this
I was gonna say it's anecdotal but with the news of a flood the last two weeks I've noticed/felt a lot more people taking things very very seriously.
That's probably too short term to see real results, and that's just my slice of paradise, so take it for what its' worth. But I'd like to pretend California as a whole is still paying attention.
IMO it's still just the bars and like, places indoor in close proximity, that are really causing problems. No issues with...just about anything outdoors with air circulation it seems.
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Also, FWIW
Makes a lot of sense. The daily counts are kind of trash and prone to spikes, watch the weekly trends.
Makes a lot of sense. The daily counts are kind of trash and prone to spikes, watch the weekly trends.
Anecdotally, up in the rural counties where I live, the outdoor activities were just as bad.
Everyone and their Mum hitched a boat, camper, tent over Memorial Day and hit up a lake, river, forest, cave ...
Then they partied with friends and family cuz they were all fed up with the lockdown.
And we got a big spike from that few weeks later.
Even the beaches are a source despite the less conducive environment for the virus. It’s a resilient bug.
Lt Dan
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Lt Dan
F*** your ice cream!
At least 15 LA County children sickened by inflammatory syndrome related to COVID-19
and now it is happening in LA
CORONAVIRUS LOS ANGELES
and now it is happening in LA
CORONAVIRUS LOS ANGELES
Lt Dan
F*** your ice cream!
Not a bad day
560 new cases is over 500 but under 1000
Hospitalization went up 1 to the number of the beast
ICU went down 1
Today's positive tests were only 7.5%
560 new cases is over 500 but under 1000
Hospitalization went up 1 to the number of the beast
ICU went down 1
Today's positive tests were only 7.5%
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Well i sure as shet hope that's a one-off random thing. Because once CV starts to affect children health-wise, the Country/economy will REALLY be screwed (much moreso than it is now).
Lt Dan
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It's not. It has been happening in other states as well. I posted an article a few days back about it happening in Wisconsin .
They don't know why it is happening yet either, which is concerning
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This is significant but still early phase (2) .... Oxford coronavirus vaccine triggers immune response
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Raccoon Jesus
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Really good read and very encouraging results.
Also, it's named "ChAdOx1 nCoV-19", who I'm pretty sure killed me over and over and over when playing CounterStrike.
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This spike very well may be linked to the Memorial Day and Independence Day holidays. Many people gathering inside bars, restaurants, family gatherings, etc.
We were taking a walk early evening on Independence Day and were invited by a neighbor to join their BBQ and celebration. The beer was flowing, there were probably 30 people in the garage where the food and drink was located, and plenty of people in the front yard. No one was wearing a mask. During normal times we would have joined in the fun, but we were leaving in two days on a trip where we would see several elderly relatives. We were smart and said "No, thank you, but have fun."
It comes down to personal responsibility, and personal responsibility isn't something which can be policed at that level.
I still firmly believe there are ways to ensure a healthy return to schools by our children, reopening of personal service businesses (barbers, etc.). Like any virus, this one seems to spread the easiest in rooms with large gatherings of people where a single "carrier" can infect multiple people during the same period of time.
Glad to see so much progress on the vaccine front.
Raccoon Jesus
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Masks offer much more protection against coronavirus than many think
Helps to possibly explain how other countries have had success with masks. If a lot of the asymptomatic/presymptomatic carriers that are so contagious are all wearing masks...
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Helps to possibly explain how other countries have had success with masks. If a lot of the asymptomatic/presymptomatic carriers that are so contagious are all wearing masks...
3 minute audio in support
Everyone with a brain understands this. Unfortunately we have a lot of Americans that are lacking this vital organ. Does it even matter at this point? We’re almost 6 months in, if you’re not already wearing a mask by now, I doubt anything is going to get the message through.
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San Diego Mayor Faulconer signs executive order to allow city gyms, churches, salons to operate outdoors
inb4 drive thru hair salons
inb4 drive thru hair salons
I’ll take a drive through pedi. Never underestimate a nice foot massage.
Latest data from OC doctor friend. Admissions flat at OC hospital. 7% increase in San Bernardino. Deaths throughout affiliated hospitals continue at the same pace as the weekend, which is about half of what they were last Thursday. Overall, admissions down slightly and ICU admissions up slightly. Only significant increase in ICU admissions was a 25% increase in Riverside. On the flip side overall admissions in Riverside were down 9%.
Tuesday is the day we usually see reported deaths spike after the Weekend Effect, so perhaps this is good news.
Edit: And speaking of the Weekend Effect, reported deaths in Florida up 45% from yesterday. If you look at the death charts, the Weekend Effect is so consistent that every Saturday, Sunday and Monday can easily be spotted on the chart.
Tuesday is the day we usually see reported deaths spike after the Weekend Effect, so perhaps this is good news.
Edit: And speaking of the Weekend Effect, reported deaths in Florida up 45% from yesterday. If you look at the death charts, the Weekend Effect is so consistent that every Saturday, Sunday and Monday can easily be spotted on the chart.
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