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SaltyElkHunter
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My wife and I are teachers and we both want to go back to work. I think it's definitely an essential service. When you look at the recommendation from the AAP and the results of other countries who have gone back to school, it's pretty clear to me that there is a solid case to be made for going back to school.
I also believe that there are some very unhealthy teachers and we should make accomodations for them.
I also believe that there are some very unhealthy teachers and we should make accomodations for them.
KINGS17
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In my day we called an umpire or referee we thought was jobbing us Cyclops. Odysseus might have been better, because they would have had to look it up.
KINGS17
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Relative to the case count being under 1000, and perhaps trending lower; I am beginning to wonder if anyone really has a handle on the estimation of the number of asymptomatic cases. Could it be there is a building herd immunity among younger people who have been frequenting indoor venues in large numbers?
We would only know if antibody tests were inexpensive and readily available.
Lt Dan
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They are saying now that the antibodies might only last 3 months
I am pretty sure that I had the Rona in late December. My girl got me sick and her boss tested negative for the flu and had all the same symptoms as I had which were all the Corona virus symptoms early on. Dry cough chills, body aches
I took the antibody test in mid may and was negative for the antibodies. I could be totally wrong as well about what I had.
But it Suuuuuucked
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KINGS17
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I read the 3-month figure as well. I am thinking with bars, etc. reopening, and the average age of people testing positive dropping, it may be possible a greater number of younger people have antibodies at this time.
Well the antibody test has an accuracy rating that’s for shit. Not to mention they’re still not even sure if the antibodies stay in your system for more than a few months.
which durrr you said in your first sentence...
SaltyElkHunter
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“Read some interesting stuff on covid today...basically the death rate hasn’t changed. The virus is slowly depleting is “susceptible host group” (ppl who are actually at risk of contracting and having significant symptoms of the virus) they once thought the susceptible group was 70% of population, turns out it’s closer to 20-30%. Once that 20-30% is infected the virus can no longer find a host that it can actively infect and the virus will become an endemic.”
From one of my clients who is an ER doc.
From one of my clients who is an ER doc.
SaltyElkHunter
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So your source is credible and mine isn’t? Guess you believe In your narrative and I’ll believe in mine. No point in communicating. Guess we are both right or wrong.
No the point is that when discussing a global issue, one person’s experience proves nothing and is worth a fart in the wind.
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So one person derailingbthe thread. Everyone's responding so it's a mishmash. I have my answer of ignoring this thread.
Raccoon Jesus
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No, the point is you've been provided everything from anecdotes to neutrally-sourced facts to first-hand experiences of people in the field from posters of all walks and your response to all of that is "TLDR lololo" and to dismiss and to double down on your ignorance...only to pop back in periodically to provide some second hand info that fits in nicely with your echo chamber but with no intention of actually discussing because you can't handle the cognitive dissonance of having your bubble pierced.
You're right there's no point in communicating with you, please kindly see yourself out if you're just going to be confrontational since you clearly have no intention of actually dialoguing. People have been far too patient with you.
KINGS17
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Here is a bit of good news on the vaccine front.
Early results are promising from coronavirus-vaccine testing in Seattle
I don't know if everyone will be able to open the link, so here are the highlights:
After two doses of the vaccine, volunteers produced more neutralizing antibodies — the type that inactivate the virus — than the average levels seen in the blood of people who survived COVID-19.
The first volunteers, injected in Seattle on March 16, were also the first people in the United States to participate in human trials of any vaccine against the novel coronavirus. Since then, the field has exploded, with more than 20 experimental vaccines now in human trials and more than 100 in preclinical stages.
The results reported Tuesday cover the first 57 days post-injection and are from 45 healthy volunteers 18 to 55 years old. The participants, who were enrolled in Seattle and at Emory University in Atlanta, received an initial shot of low, intermediate, or high dosage, followed by a booster a month later.
The first shots didn’t induce much of a reaction, Jackson said. But after the second shot, the volunteers mounted a strong immune response. In general, responses were proportional to the dose.
More than half of participants reported side effects, including fatigue, chills, headaches and pain at the injection site. Most were relatively minor and fleeting, but three participants in the highest-dose group described their side effects as severe. Jackson said the highest dose is being eliminated from subsequent trails.
Early results are promising from coronavirus-vaccine testing in Seattle
I don't know if everyone will be able to open the link, so here are the highlights:
After two doses of the vaccine, volunteers produced more neutralizing antibodies — the type that inactivate the virus — than the average levels seen in the blood of people who survived COVID-19.
The first volunteers, injected in Seattle on March 16, were also the first people in the United States to participate in human trials of any vaccine against the novel coronavirus. Since then, the field has exploded, with more than 20 experimental vaccines now in human trials and more than 100 in preclinical stages.
The results reported Tuesday cover the first 57 days post-injection and are from 45 healthy volunteers 18 to 55 years old. The participants, who were enrolled in Seattle and at Emory University in Atlanta, received an initial shot of low, intermediate, or high dosage, followed by a booster a month later.
The first shots didn’t induce much of a reaction, Jackson said. But after the second shot, the volunteers mounted a strong immune response. In general, responses were proportional to the dose.
More than half of participants reported side effects, including fatigue, chills, headaches and pain at the injection site. Most were relatively minor and fleeting, but three participants in the highest-dose group described their side effects as severe. Jackson said the highest dose is being eliminated from subsequent trails.
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Proposition to rename Covid deaths as "slowly depleted hosts" on all HFKings official material.
SaltyElkHunter
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So your little echo chamber has it all figured out? I don’t agree with 4 people so I am the one that’s wrong. So your 4 person fart in the wind is the be all end all. Hahahahahaha. Good luck with that. I’m not the one name calling and losing my cool.
Still seems pretty far away but positive news is better than not.
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By my count you have 44 of the last 117 posts in this thread and have, in several of them, expressed an unwillingness to read the posts of others or consider the validity of the data they posted.
Probably got pretty good acoustics at your house too.
SaltyElkHunter
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I’ve read them, I just don’t agree. I think that if people want to send there kids to school in an overwhelming majority as voted on in our school district it should happen. Anyone who doesn’t want to participate shouldn’t. How is that so offensive to anyone personally? You don’t teach in my district, you don’t have to send your kids to school even if you do live in my district.
If anyone wants to hide from this and they feel that’s the best solution go for it. Just don’t make me live by the choices you have made. Our paths are perfectly capable of not crossing if we both do what we want.
I’m perfectly fine with you believing whatever the hell you want to believe. I think that’s great you choosing what’s best for you and your family. Just don’t fall under the impression you can do the same for me.
If anyone wants to hide from this and they feel that’s the best solution go for it. Just don’t make me live by the choices you have made. Our paths are perfectly capable of not crossing if we both do what we want.
I’m perfectly fine with you believing whatever the hell you want to believe. I think that’s great you choosing what’s best for you and your family. Just don’t fall under the impression you can do the same for me.
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This is interesting.
Looks like a booster is needed for the “strong” antibody production.
Getting folks to just get one shot is hard enough, now we need a booster 30 days later. I feel like a puppy.
Still, real good news for the mRNA platform Moderna has developed.
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KINGS17
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Yeah, but we all have to remember this is just the first volunteers to receive this particular vaccine. Changing the formula, the dosage, etc. could make it a one-shot vaccine, or the one in this study may have side effects for people who are not as healthy as those in the trial. Any news like this right now is good news though.
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