WWE: GDT: Wrestlemania 39

BruinDust

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If WWE writes it correctly, over the next twelve months they can do Reigns vs...

Rhodes again
Rollins
Zayn again
KO again
Jey once or twice
Jimmy
Solo
Gunther
LA Knight
Rock

There is money to be made in all those matches. Why throw it away for a Cody Rhodes victory at 39?
 

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Yep and there's a ton of loose ends that WWE probably wants to tie with the belt too like Cena breaking the record. Cena probably wouldn't care at the end of the day but it's still something that WWE probably wants to do regardless. I haven't been into WWE in a while so I'm not even going to act like I'm this hooked into the product right now but at the same time I'm super interested to see how they end one of the best storylines ever and probably the best storyline of the past decade.
Probably in a whimper and past its expiration date.

I'm sorry but if you think they avoided having a nice little movie tonight because they're actually writing The Godfather instead, you have more faith in them than I do.
 

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If WWE writes it correctly, over the next twelve months they can do Reigns vs...

Rhodes again
Rollins
Zayn again
KO again
Jey once or twice
Jimmy
Solo
Gunther
LA Knight
Rock

There is money to be made in all those matches. Why throw it away for a Cody Rhodes victory at 39?
Because Roman is such a draw that the belts don't move the needle on any of these.
 

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Probably in a whimper and past its expiration date.

I'm sorry but if you think they avoided having a nice little movie tonight because they're actually writing The Godfather instead, you have more faith in them than I do.

I personally wouldn't care if Cena got that record either, the guys done basically everything and the company lets him have Wrestlemania matches on 2-3 weeks notice so he's obviously in their good graces which is why I think they'd do certain things shortly after Reigns loses the belt.
 

Machinehead

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Roman is likely not as big of a draw without the belts.
At this point he is.

There's a reason Undertaker never had long reigns. Having a chance to beat the Undertaker was a bigger spot than competing for the title.

If Roman loses tonight, for example, and than fights Solo for the title of "Tribal Chief" at Summerslam, that 100% main events over whoever Cody is fighting.
 

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To put it a different way.

I don't think they decided to not put Cody over because they didn't believe he could be the guy, or they are punishing him for leaving, or anything else.

I think they decided to keep the belts on Roman because to them the Bloodline story is not over. They have more story beats they want to hit and it isn't about making a moment or getting a pop. This is basically the finale of season 4 or 5 in a six season show.

In their minds they are trying prove you can tell a super long, involved TV story in a wrestling ring. Sami's comments last night comparing the Bloodline's story's impact on wrestling to The Sopranos impact to TV. Roman tonight talking about how this isn't a story for short attention spans, this isn't fast food, it's wagu steaks.

Now that doesn't mean it will work. It's entirely possible they massively miscalculated and they missed their chance to get the biggest possible reaction to Roman losing.

We won't know until we see how it plays out.
 

Machinehead

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I don't think Zayn vs. Roman carries the same weight without the titles on the line. Same with a few of the names I listed.
I'll give you Zayn, yeah, because his rise to the top is part of the story.

He doesn't need the belt to turn on Jey. He doesn't need the belt to do the family thing with Solo. He doesn't need it for Rollins to get his closure in a one-on-one victory. He sure as hell doesn't need it to fight Gunther or Rock.

WWE have a rare attraction here that doesn't need the world title to be a flagship angle and they're doing the opposite of that.

Again, they just shouldn't have unified them. They could have had the WWE Championship in circulation while Roman has his streak with the blue one. They do well booking streaks.
 

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I also think there is a strong argument to be made that going this route is totally fine, but then they never should have unified the belts.

One good news is they have done a great job elevating the mid card belts to make up for thr world titles being tied up in this long story.
 
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I'll give you Zayn, yeah, because his rise to the top is part of the story.

He doesn't need the belt to turn on Jey. He doesn't need the belt to do the family thing with Solo. He doesn't need it for Rollins to get his closure in a one-on-one victory. He sure as hell doesn't need it to fight Gunther or Rock.

WWE have a rare attraction here that doesn't need the world title to be a flagship angle and they're doing the opposite of that.

Again, they just shouldn't have unified them. They could have had the WWE Championship in circulation while Roman has his streak with the blue one. They do well booking streaks.
100% agree with this. I would have been fine with giving Cody his moment over someone else holding the title while the Bloodline story continues with Roman retaining.

However, we are where we are now and this is the route they've chosen re; Bloodline story over Cody story.
 
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100% agree with this. I would have been fine with giving Cody his moment over someone else holding the title while the Bloodline story continues with Roman retaining.

However, we are where we are now and this is the route they've chosen re; Bloodline story over Cody story.

I can buy the argument that the Bloodline story should take priority over Cody's story at this point, but I also see the argument that unifying the belts was a bad idea because you took away your ability to do both.
 

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Finn Balor was given staples while on the apron, which is true badass shit
 

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I'll give you Zayn, yeah, because his rise to the top is part of the story.

He doesn't need the belt to turn on Jey. He doesn't need the belt to do the family thing with Solo. He doesn't need it for Rollins to get his closure in a one-on-one victory. He sure as hell doesn't need it to fight Gunther or Rock.

WWE have a rare attraction here that doesn't need the world title to be a flagship angle and they're doing the opposite of that.

Again, they just shouldn't have unified them. They could have had the WWE Championship in circulation while Roman has his streak with the blue one. They do well booking streaks.

Personally I've always felt having two world champions was stupid going all the way back to the 2002 Brand Split era. I think they should unify the women's titles. Performers appear on both shows anyways. One title always comes across as the "lesser" of the two world titles.

They just put 150,000 people in SoFi Stadium over two night with unified titles main event both as they should have. Can you main event a WM night with a brand-specific tag title? Probably not.
 

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Personally I've always felt having two world champions was stupid going all the way back to the 2002 Brand Split era. I think they should unify the women's titles. Performers appear on both shows anyways. One title always comes across as the "lesser" of the two world titles.

They just put 150,000 people in SoFi Stadium over two night with unified titles main event both as they should have. Can you main event a WM night with a brand-specific tag title? Probably not.
I think you're overstating the impact titles are having on Roman and the Bloodline angles.

Sami and KO vs the Uso's would have main evented night 1 with Chili's coupons on the line.

It was just perfectly booked. The belt can be a story device but the story is there or it isn't.
 

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Anyway I thought that was a great weekend of shows.

Crowd was awesome and hot both nights.

Night 1 was pretty close to a perfectly booked and paced show. Match quality was really high overall, especially with the women's title and tag title main event.

Night 2 felt a bit more disjointed pacing wise. Still the match quality was super high once you got past the first two matches. IC triple threat was amazing. Asuka/Bianca delivered. HIAC was very good and very brutal. Main event was high drama.

More debate in Night 2 on whether the right people won, but it was still really good.

Was a lot of fun. When wrestling is good, it's better then anything else
 

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