GDT: GDT#4| Penguins vs. Redwings | Wed, Oct. 18 2023 7:30 PM EST|LCA| Hey, it's My B-Day, all I want is a Karlsson good game...

[Andy99]

You just know nothing is going to go in. Same exact feeling as last year.

Because they don’t get themselves in front of the net or manage the puck well…

 

[Coastal Kev]

It’s always the guys who have been here getting involved in the scrums

Petts
Sid
Letang
Geno

Where the f*** is this toughness we traded for/signed?

They're a team that has a clear caste system. I wish team would take it too them physically every night. Maybe getting teeth rattled would knock some sense into to their stars that the comfy club they created is dangerous to their long term health.

 

[Empoleon8771]

Many here have been asking for someone like that for years. It is and has been a glaring need

Honestly I generally don't like those kind of players at all, because it feels like an outdated relic of the 80s and 90s hockey to get pure physical DFD. But for how the Penguins are using their bottom pair, I actually think it makes sense to have that kind of bottom pair.

They're riding the hell out of the top-4 D and are mostly only using the 3rd pair in scarce 5v5 minutes and PK minutes. With POJ, he's not even getting PK minutes. If their role is "low minutes at 5v5 and killing penalties", why have an erratic puck mover along with an undersized bland depth D as your bottom pair?

I hate the idea of having like a Scuderi-Orpik pair because it offers nothing in the transition game or offensively, but if you're using the bottom pair in this specific role, it makes way more sense to have that kind of D pair.

 

[McGroarty2]

how the f*** does geno get an extra 2 there?

Because Seider looks like he identifies as having a vagina.

 

[Pancakes]

Just a very mid team right now. I'd like to see them establish an identity as a complete trainwreck or an actually good team.

Right now this looks like a team that will pick around 14th again lol

 

[3ladesof5teel]

I mean I'm not calling it a season like some are. But having someone that can clear the net has been an obvious need.

Some people might have picked a new favorite team already if you read game 1 thread.

 

[The Grim Reaper]

This board gets really really low on losses and high on wins. Very bipolar, haha.

If you want middling, check out the Bucco's thread. You're not allowed to be angry or excited lol.

 

[DesertedPenguin]

Dubas has a reputation for churning the bottom of his lineup.

Going to be really interesting to see if that holds true here, because I think we're seeing evidence that the bottom six and bottom pair could use adjustments.

 

[Empoleon8771]

Just a very mid team right now. I'd like to see them establish an identity as a complete trainwreck or an actually good team.

Right now this looks like a team that will pick around 14th again lol

I think this is how they're going to be. When they're on, they're going to look like a legitimate cup contender. When they're off, they're going to be losing to a lottery team.

I think this is just the nature of having a super old team. They can sometimes pull out the talent to play great, but it's much more difficult to do it at their age.

 

[Big Friggin Dummy]

This board gets really really low on losses and high on wins. Very bipolar, haha.

"It's so over..."
"Shades of '16!"
"It's so over..."

 

[cookthebooks]

an older team needs energy from the bottom 6 which is why seeing jeff carter there is just extra infuriating

 

[ZorkEnchanter]

Just a very mid team right now. I'd like to see them establish an identity as a complete trainwreck or an actually good team.

Right now this looks like a team that will pick around 14th again lol

Sorry man... we got Lars Eller, i think his pedigree moves us down to #16

 

[AuroraBorealis]

This board gets really really low on losses and high on wins. Very bipolar, haha.

It's the quality of the losses that bothers me. Effort and caliber of opponent.
It's just thrown away points due to laziness.
The mindset is "Meh...it's early. We can pick it up later..."

They wouldn't be playing with this little drive in April.

 

[metalan2]

This board gets really really low on losses and high on wins. Very bipolar, haha.

It's the way they lose. I also don't think this board gets too high on wins. I don't think one person here truly believes in this team. I know we want to, but it's too far gone to truly believe.

 

[Tender Rip]

Ups. Motown Blues.

 

[66-30-33]

Dubas has a reputation for churning the bottom of his lineup.

Going to be really interesting to see if that holds true here, because I think we're seeing evidence that the bottom six and bottom pair could use adjustments.

Only so much he can do fixing the team Hextall left us.

 

[turd]

The bottom six and third D pair are worthless. Let’s see what that Ludvig and Shea can do and call up some warm bodies at forward.

 

[3ladesof5teel]

Honestly I generally don't like those kind of players at all, because it feels like an outdated relic of the 80s and 90s hockey to get pure physical DFD. But for how the Penguins are using their bottom pair, I actually think it makes sense to have that kind of bottom pair.

They're riding the hell out of the top-4 D and are mostly only using the 3rd pair in scarce 5v5 minutes and PK minutes. With POJ, he's not even getting PK minutes. If their role is "low minutes at 5v5 and killing penalties", why have an erratic puck mover along with an undersized bland depth D as your bottom pair?

I hate the idea of having like a Scuderi-Orpik pair because it offers nothing in the transition game or offensively, but if you're using the bottom pair in this specific role, it makes way more sense to have that kind of D pair.

It makes a ton of sense. You cant let teams camp in front of your net. Goals will pile in that way.

A little bit of bite down there goes a long way. Let the Letang and EK pair control the possession.
PK with a 3rd pairing that can move some bodies around block shots and do all the dirty work.

 

[Coastal Kev]

This board gets really really low on losses and high on wins. Very bipolar, haha.

In all fairness, I crapped on them after the Calgary win on Saturday.

 

[Jobeycool]

Told ya.. we needed more scoring depth with bottom 6.

 

[Andy99]

Dubas has a reputation for churning the bottom of his lineup.

Going to be really interesting to see if that holds true here, because I think we're seeing evidence that the bottom six and bottom pair could use adjustments.

well he’s gonna have to pull a miracle there because our top six is getting out skated and tightly checked and they’re still playing the same ineffective way…that’s a bigger issue because they’re our best hope of scoring and they can’t do shit against fast teams

 

[Ragamuffin Gunner]

PP letting us down again

 

[Dessloch]

Dubas did sign a few slow over the hill guys, so he is not absolved of blame!

 

[66-30-33]

The bottom six and third D pair are worthless. Let’s see what that Ludvig and Shea can do and call up some warm bodies at forward.

It's October, this is the time you experiment.

 

[The Grim Reaper]

It's the way they lose. I also don't think this board gets too high on wins. I don't think one person here truly believes in this team. I know we want to, but it's too far gone to truly believe.

I think that's fair. We love hockey, but we're watching grandma being put in the retirement home.