You might need to draw it up, especially considering how sophisticated PK systems have become at suppressing shots and disrupting shooting lanes. In the scheme you’re presenting, where a team only has one or two legitimate shooting areas, it’s not particularly difficult for opponents to crack the system.
Third oldest team in the league according to Elite Prospects. As for the other two, what, they can't score and they skate slowly because they lack character and mental toughness? That's a new one.
I didn't say I have confidence in him, that's just the only way he sticks around. He was one of my favorite players but this is really tarnishing his legacy for me.
Did they look like they skated slow or couldn't score just a game before the last?
You want to keep him around despite not having confidence in him because you liked him as a player?! C'mon man.
Buffalo is worse team in hockey and that youthful team that has been rebuilding for decades with futility following your model has always been at the bottom the league. You blast the Islanders for their current record following a string of critical injuries and yet give a pass to a youthful "skilled team" for losing 13 straight games commenting that they were not going to lose forever? And the old and skill lacking Isles are going to lose forever? Is that your prediction?
The Islanders are a bad team. Patrick Roy is a poor coach. Both can be true.
Roy’s legacy as a player is what we hoped would translate behind the bench. It isn’t happening. Roy will join the ranks of Wayne Gretzky and Bryan Trottier as Hall of Fame players who were bad head coaches.
Are we all now willing to admit replacing Snow with Lamiorello was a terrible decision very few here have a leg to stand on. I mean seriously folks this is what it all boils down to. All these problems began the moment he became GM of this team. Everyone gave this guy the Caesar victory parade when he came in that somehow he returned respectability to this franchise. What good has he done? Either you like what he did or you don't. He built this team. He hired all these coaches. He made this purported mess of things. These not only can be true but ARE true.
Someone needs to step away from the eggnog. I'll give Snow credit for building a solid core of players and honestly drafting well above his weight for the most part. That culture shift needed to happen, I won't trade those playoff rounds under Lou/Trotz for anything, that's the most success I've seen as a fan (86 YOB)
Well I can appreciate your enthusiasm for a couple of late series wins but I would absolutely trade those playoff rounds under Lou/Trotz for an actual Stanley Cup Final berth (68 YOB 4 years prior to the Islanders inception). My experience with team is if a different standard.
The team that was one game away from the SCF but you would trade that away? This makes no sense. Of course the current state isn't great it doesn't mean those years weren't! As long as you consistently make the playoffs you have a shot. Zero people on Earth had the LAK or STL winning the cup the years they did.
No we are not willing to admit replacing Snow with Lamoriello was a terrible decision. The organization was a joke before Lou got here. Lou changed the culture of the organization and made this a place that players wouldn't fly the coop like John Tavares did. If things were so bad here. Barzal and Horvat don't resign. Especially Bo who bought what Lou was selling and signed for 8 years without ever having set foot on Long Island.
The license you take with the things I have written and your tortured logic makes it virtually impossible to respond. I give Buffalo a pass? When did I do that? I predict that the Islanders are going to lose forever because Buffalo wasn't going to. I don't even know what you are talking about. Where do you come up with such nonsense?
You are not being totally honest here. Can you admit that the team that made it to those two ECF's was constructed by Snow? So how was this organization a joke? A lot of what you write is just all the false mystique that was Lou Lamiorello. An over rated over the hill never should have been GM of the New York Islanders.
Yeah that pretty much sums it up.
I'm not saying he has, at all, the success they had was from a roster and draft picks made by Snow and world-class coached by Trotz.
If you can’t recognize that the joke of an organization the Isles were ranged from incompetent owners-one who was a fraud, general managers who had no business being GMs, the constant threat of moving off of the Island, etc all if which combined made the Islanders toxic to other players and cost the team a generation of fans, then there’s no point continuing this dialogue. I’m not going to keep arguing in circles.
This is a great post. It reminds people such as myself who have been around a little bit longer - a lot actually - and who have been extremely critical of Lou's full tenure perspective on why you feel the way you do.
I agree that the limited success he had was with Trotz, but even then Trotz in my opinion was not necessarily the best choice but for some of you just making past the 2nd round was a sign of great success. That's not success for this grizzled Islander fan. Back in Dynasty days as any Islander fan who grew up with those teams would have told you those were abject failures to achieve the goal every team has in mind.
Yet your avatar says "Fire Lou". If he brought all this respectability to the organization why does your avatar say that? That doesn't make any sense to me at all. That's my point. Malkin and Ledecky brought stability and respectability to this franchise not Lou. Snow had nothing to do with the ownership circus or string of bad GMS this team had to deal with. Let's all get that straight #1, and #2 when Ledecky and Malkin fire Lou they will bring respectability back to this franchise.
And I really pity you guys that this is all you got from this franchise. I was serving cocktails to Bryan Trottier at the North Hills Country Club as a teenage server in 1985 a couple of years after their Cup runs. Good times.
I feel like you are one of those posters where if the team went 82-0 you would still find faults. It's just not worth spending the energy. Find something else that brings you joy.
I hope I am reading this post wrong… are you saying Snow was a good GM.
