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Speculation: Gaudreau seeking $8M annually on new deal with Flames

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DJJones said:
Because he's not, no RFA winger is. I like Monahan, doesn't mean I am willing to throw 7M at him.

Ekblad's contract should be the absolute ceiling for a few years. Maybe McDavid will cross it.
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Umm yeah he will, and probably $2 million a year higher than Ekblad.

$9.5 million year he will easily get.
 
Breakers said:
Probably because apparently Gaudreau's ask is now above $8 million a year.
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Yup both sides took a gamble going into the World Cup and Gaudreau's side won. Imagine if he went pointless and then got injured.

Breakers said:
Umm yeah he will, and probably $2 million a year higher than Ekblad.

$9.5 million year he will easily get.
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Star forwards have always made more than star defensemen.
 
I realize there's this whole "pay your dues" culture to the NHL, but when Rick Nash is being paid about $8M a year, you can't really argue with Gaudreau's asking price.
 
Johnnybegood13 said:
Why are Oiler fans more concerned about Gaudreau's contract than Flames fans?
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You never want your biggest rival to get a bargain.

$6.5 million which is what calgary wants means they could get another sweet depth forward.

$8 million which is what Oiler fans want means they have less depth
 
DJJones said:
He's an unrestricted RFA with no rights...

This shouldn't have to be explained haha
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So basically yeah the flames want to pay him less than he's worth because they hold the hammer. And flames fans want lil johnny to just take it with a smile, get that contract signed ASAP?
 
DJJones said:
Because he's not, no RFA winger is. I like Monahan, doesn't mean I am willing to throw 7M at him.

Ekblad's contract should be the absolute ceiling for a few years. Maybe McDavid will cross it.
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If you're setting Ekblad's contract (7.5M AAV) as the ceiling, the line you have drawn in the sand is 10.2% of the salary cap (7.5M divided by 73M).

I did a quick search, I can find at least four wingers who signed contracts straight off their ELC's that exceeded 10.2% of the cap when they were signed (Ovi, Nash, Tarasenko and Kane).

I suspect Gaudreau and his representation see him belonging in that tier of players.

Note: Perry (9.4%) and Kessel (9.5%) were the next closest players I found.
 
stangconv said:
I said it a long time ago... he doesn't want to be there, and it'll be big money to convince him to stay.
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If you're right he did a great time hiding it unlike your golden boy who looked like he was about to puke when he found out his destination.
 
Hockey Nightmare said:
So basically yeah the flames want to pay him less than he's worth because they hold the hammer. And flames fans want lil johnny to just take it with a smile, get that contract signed ASAP?
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Welcome to the NHL haha.

If he wants to sit out and get **** on by Calgary fans he's more than welcome too. Worst case is he whines like Drouin did, and Calgary just ignores him until he comes back to the table. If we lose him in 6 or 7 years because his feelings got hurt now then so be it.
 
DJJones said:
Welcome to the NHL haha.

If he wants to sit out and get **** on by Calgary fans he's more than welcome too. Worst case is he whines like Drouin did, and Calgary just ignores him until he comes back to the table. If we lose him in 6 or 7 years because his feelings got hurt now then so be it.
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Or sign a bridge deal and leave quite a bit earlier.
 
Hockey Nightmare said:
Or sign a bridge deal and leave quite a bit earlier.
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If he doesn't like Calgary's offer with UFA years, he is going to hate their offer for a bridge. 5.5M x 3 maybe?

If he wants out, there's nothing you can do about it. Certainly don't bend-over for him.

In that case we'd get 2 years of him and then see what we could get for a trade.
 
JFHockey said:
Did you watch the WC? Gaudreau was clearly the best player on NA, he got more points (way more if you include exhibition games) despite the coach having a 9" ***** for McDavid and trying to work him out of his slump for the entire tournament.
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Going by this logic, every team should be eager to put John Scott on their 1st lines. He's an All-Star MVP, after all.
 
DJJones said:
Welcome to the NHL haha.

If he wants to sit out and get **** on by Calgary fans he's more than welcome too. Worst case is he whines like Drouin did, and Calgary just ignores him until he comes back to the table. If we lose him in 6 or 7 years because his feelings got hurt now then so be it.
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Glad you're not the GM. A big part of managing a team is managing egos. Having Gaudreau for 6 or 7 years, while he hates the team and pines to leave the first chance he gets, is no way to build a winning hockey team.

A contract isn't a bargain if the player hates the team. At that point you've created a toxic environment and you might as well trade him.

The Flames need to figure out how hard they really want to push here. For example, say the numbers are $6.75m vs $7.5m. Those are two different numbers and obviously the Flames want the lower one. But is it worth it if you have to destroy your relationship with the player to get it? Not saying this is the case but other team/player relationships have been destroyed over less. This isn't like negotiating in nhl16. Sometimes it's not worth it to nickel and dime your best player so you can save 1% on the cap.
 
Kilted Yaksmen said:
Glad you're not the GM. A big part of managing a team is managing egos. Having Gaudreau for 6 or 7 years, while he hates the team and pines to leave the first chance he gets, is no way to build a winning hockey team.

A contract isn't a bargain if the player hates the team. At that point you've created a toxic environment and you might as well trade him.

The Flames need to figure out how hard they really want to push here. For example, say the numbers are $6.75m vs $7.5m. Those are two different numbers and obviously the Flames want the lower one. But is it worth it if you have to destroy your relationship with the player to get it? Not saying this is the case but other team/player relationships have been destroyed over less. This isn't like negotiating in nhl16. Sometimes it's not worth it to nickel and dime your best player so you can save 1% on the cap.
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just like when the Flames destroyed their relationship with a 23 year old Iginla, or when the Kings destroyed their relationship with Doughty.
 
EdmontonExpress said:
Yes, because we should instead be jealous of a team who hasn't had since significant success since before even Edmonton's last playoff appearance.

If you can't figure out why McDavid might be a player you'd want on your team, I can't help you. I don't think anyone or anything can.
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Keep getting all these top picks year after year and somehow you guys are still soo bad and still have the confidence to claim how great their team is but where teams like Calgary who haven't had one top 3 pick ever are still better than the the trash Edmonton throws on the ice. You clearly didn't read what I was saying, I never said anything negative towards McDavid I said that you can never be crititical or compare him and you have proven my point
 
If we traded him I would not want a Dman and the only base returns id be okay with are as follows (if team not included there is no realistic return id want from that team)

BUF - Eichel
CHI - Panarin (at 6x6)
COL - MacKinnon
DAL - Seguin
FLA - Barkov
NSH - Forsberg + good forward prospect
NJ - Hall
OTT - Stone + good forward prospect
STL - Tarasenko
TOR - Marner/Nylander + JvR
WSH - Kuznetsov
WPG - Scheifele + good forward prospect or Laine

All are very unlikely to happen which means I pray we re sign him
 
Kilted Yaksmen said:
Glad you're not the GM. A big part of managing a team is managing egos. Having Gaudreau for 6 or 7 years, while he hates the team and pines to leave the first chance he gets, is no way to build a winning hockey team.

A contract isn't a bargain if the player hates the team. At that point you've created a toxic environment and you might as well trade him.

The Flames need to figure out how hard they really want to push here. For example, say the numbers are $6.75m vs $7.5m. Those are two different numbers and obviously the Flames want the lower one. But is it worth it if you have to destroy your relationship with the player to get it? Not saying this is the case but other team/player relationships have been destroyed over less. This isn't like negotiating in nhl16. Sometimes it's not worth it to nickel and dime your best player so you can save 1% on the cap.
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If that's the road Gaudreau wants to go down, then get rid of him. Don't think that is in any way reality but if it is I don't want him to be the face of the Flames.

All this is is his agent trying to make a name for himself. Once the pressure mounts and he realizes Treliving isn't going to budge he'll cave. Low sevens for 7 or 8 years. If Johnny is upset with that and wants to whine for a trade then ship him out.
 
Love the wedge being driven between him and Flames. Hell be out if Calgary in 3 years. Exhibit A for how NOT to deal with a good player
 
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