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Speculation: Gaudreau seeking $8M annually on new deal with Flames

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TicatOilGuy said:
Panarin's play also contributed to Kane's Hart winning season as well...without Panarin on his line, does Kane win the Hart? Give some credit where it's due.

Panarin could definately demand, and probably get, more on the market..but I'm sure he's aware of the Blackhwaks cap situation, which is always pretty tight, loves playing there, and is starting in a place that will allow him to get paid well, but won't handcuff his team.

Johnny Hockey, wants to get paid it seems...team be damned.
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I'm sure Panarin gets plenty of credit when all's said and done.

That being said, Johnny still put up a slightly higher PPG and has proven more altogether.

Panarin's deal can be seen as a discount whereas Johnny's asking for a fair pay.
 
Johnnybegood13 said:
Did Bennett play with Draisaitl at the World Cup? :shakehead

Nobody is trying to say Gaudreau is better than McDavid, they don't have to because over the 6 games Gaudreau showed hockey fans around the world just how talented he is, McDavis showed flashes but not the dominance the next one should. the arguments start when Oiler fans chime in saying McDavid was the best player for team NA, ridiculous statements.

Gaudreau had 5g-9pts, McDavid had 3 assists over 6 games.

Imagine the point totals had Gaudreau been spoon fed 1st line minutes and the extra 8 minutes of PP time McDavid got.
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Prelim games are meaningless and the points players get while playing in them are meaningless as well. Just like NHL pre-season games and the points players accrue during them are meaningless.

Gaudreau had a great tournament, but lets not pretend that there's no difference between games that count for something and games that don't count for anything. Unless you're prepared to argue that Leon Draisaitl is the premier goal scoring threat on Team Europe.
 
tempest2i said:
That's textbook jealousy. That's exactly what it is.

But again, none of these diversions have any impact on Gaudreau's contract negotiations. He should be on the ice, working with his teammates right now.
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How is it jealousy? Its called questioning why a player can't be criticized on here without backlash. Funny how oilers fans think everyone is jealous of their high draft picks but year after year they continue to be the biggest joke in the league. Keep thinking we are all jealous if it makes you feel better
 
I also never compared th 2 players, both great players. I've said in the past on this site that I don't see much of a separation in their offensive games. Take that is you will but I'm not comparing them here. I'm questioning why McDavid can never be criticized or compared on here without backlash. The previous person on this post was comparing their world cups and got immediately criticized for even daring to be critical of Canada's golden boy.
 
Johnnybegood13 said:
Did Bennett play with Draisaitl at the World Cup? :shakehead

Nobody is trying to say Gaudreau is better than McDavid, they don't have to because over the 6 games Gaudreau showed hockey fans around the world just how talented he is, McDavis showed flashes but not the dominance the next one should. the arguments start when Oiler fans chime in saying McDavid was the best player for team NA, ridiculous statements.

Gaudreau had 5g-9pts, McDavid had 3 assists over 6 games.

Imagine the point totals had Gaudreau been spoon fed 1st line minutes and the extra 8 minutes of PP time McDavid got.
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True enough I think that was the ultimate reason team NA didn't make it to the Semi's compared to team Europe way better coaching helped Europe over achieve and team NA under achieve.
 
Beninho said:
How is it jealousy? Its called questioning why a player can't be criticized on here without backlash. Funny how oilers fans think everyone is jealous of their high draft picks but year after year they continue to be the biggest joke in the league. Keep thinking we are all jealous if it makes you feel better
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It's not jealousy of the picks that you clearly have, it's jealousy of the attention McDavid receives and the level of respect he has at his age from people associated with the highest levels of hockey.

Again, none of these distractions are really relevant here. Gaudreau remains unsigned. The clock continues to tick away. Nickle-and-diming the teams' best player (and based on the jerseys I see around town, a fan favourite) is a bold strategy. I'm interested to see how this all works out.
 
stangconv said:
So sitting out during camp when your team has a new coach who is trying to put systems in place, and you're sitting at home isn't holding out?
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Same scenario in Anaheim with lindholm and Rakell. I definitely do consider it holding out.
 
Beninho said:
Funny how oilers fans think everyone is jealous of their high draft picks but year after year they continue to be the biggest joke in the league. Keep thinking we are all jealous if it makes you feel better
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Yes, because we should instead be jealous of a team who hasn't had since significant success since before even Edmonton's last playoff appearance.

If you can't figure out why McDavid might be a player you'd want on your team, I can't help you. I don't think anyone or anything can.
 
stangconv said:
Bob Mckenzie just said the 2 sides aren't even talking.
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Flames fans ITT:

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I don't even really care if he misses a few games to start. He has no options and if he's asking for a record breaking RFA contract the public opinion will sway against him in a heart beat. At least it will in Calgary, I'm sure Toronto fans will be aghast we didn't just give him a blank cheque haha.

His agent will crack before Treliving,
 
EdmontonExpress said:
Yes, because we should instead be jealous of a team who hasn't had since significant success since before even Edmonton's last playoff appearance.

If you can't figure out why McDavid might be a player you'd want on your team, I can't help you. I don't think anyone or anything can.
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Very few fans if they had a choice between Gaudreau and McDavid would take Gaudreau.

Also, what Gaudreau did during a short tournament is meaningless, when an NHL season has already passed showing that McDavid is already better than Gaudreau.

Gaudreau is a good player, but he is not on McDavid's level.

One is doing what he's doing at 19 and the other is doing what he's doing at 23. That 4 years is not insignificant.

On to the actual topic at hand, if Gaudreau is so fantastic, why is Calgary not chomping at the bit to sign him to what most agree is a reasonable deal?
 
DJJones said:
I don't even really care if he misses a few games to start. He has no options and if he's asking for a record breaking RFA contract the public opinion will sway against him in a heart beat. At least it will in Calgary, I'm sure Toronto fans will be aghast we didn't just give him a blank cheque haha.

His agent will crack before Treliving,
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First few games are against the Oilers. :handclap:
 
Johnnybegood13 said:
Did Bennett play with Draisaitl at the World Cup? :shakehead

Nobody is trying to say Gaudreau is better than McDavid, they don't have to because over the 6 games Gaudreau showed hockey fans around the world just how talented he is, McDavis showed flashes but not the dominance the next one should. the arguments start when Oiler fans chime in saying McDavid was the best player for team NA, ridiculous statements.

Gaudreau had 5g-9pts, McDavid had 3 assists over 6 games.

Imagine the point totals had Gaudreau been spoon fed 1st line minutes and the extra 8 minutes of PP time McDavid got.
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spoon fed top minutes against the opponents top players?
 
North said:
Very few fans if they had a choice between Gaudreau and McDavid would take Gaudreau.

Also, what Gaudreau did during a short tournament is meaningless, when an NHL season has already passed showing that McDavid is already better than Gaudreau.

Gaudreau is a good player, but he is not on McDavid's level.

One is doing what he's doing at 19 and the other is doing what he's doing at 23. That 4 years is not insignificant.

On to the actual topic at hand, if Gaudreau is so fantastic, why is Calgary not chomping at the bit to sign him to what most agree is a reasonable deal?
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I think the World Cup matters for sure. I bet Marchand's play drove Boston to sign him up long term rather than risk losing him to Pittsburgh. Gaudreau was a standout on team NA, and it really helps his argument that he drives the play very well.

I still think that Calgary is smart to let this drag on. Gaudreau can't sign an offer sheet so there's no risk there. Gaudreau might miss some regular season games, but the stakes of his contract extend to probably 8 years, so if they can chisel him down even 500k a year it can make a huge difference.
 
Hockey Nightmare said:
Don't get it? If he's that good, why are flame fans complaining? Why isn't he worth $8M?
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Because he's not, no RFA winger is. I like Monahan, doesn't mean I am willing to throw 7M at him.

Ekblad's contract should be the absolute ceiling for a few years. Maybe McDavid will cross it.
 
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