Salary Cap: Garbage Day collection comes early!

[Jacob]

Stamkos out Guentzel in seems like a lateral move in terms of total offense provided.

But he’s 4 years younger so whatever.

 

[Empoleon8771]

He wants 8 years at least or Tampa wouldn’t have traded a third…they’re trying to keep the AAV down by offering the extra year

Tampa can't offer 8 years because Guentzel wasn't on their roster at the deadline.

Stamkos out Guentzel in seems like a lateral move in terms of total offense provided.

But he’s 4 years younger so whatever.

Wait Guentzel is only 4 years younger than Stamkos?

Stamkos is either way younger or Guentzel is way older than I thought he was.

 

[Gurglesons]

Which is sad. Poulin might be a bust but I think he has NHL level skills. To be at least a solid "contributing" 4th liner. Possibly 20 points. A bit higher upside with any luck.

It's also completely counter to what we are preaching about youth, but I mean. Whatevers.

Stamkos out Guentzel in seems like a lateral move in terms of total offense provided.

But he’s 4 years younger so whatever.

Jake is probably better at 5v5.

 

[Andy99]

Tampa can't offer 8 years because Guentzel wasn't on their roster at the deadline.



Wait Guentzel is only 4 years younger than Stamkos?

Stamkos is either way younger or Guentzel is way older than I thought he was.

Then why pay Carolina for his rights? Jake’s going to sign where he’s going to sign at this point…there’s basically no private negotiating period

 

[Ugene Magic]

He wants 8 years at least or Tampa wouldn’t have traded a third…they’re trying to keep the AAV down by offering the extra year

They are at least jumping the market and finding out if he'll sign.

 

[Empoleon8771]

Then why pay Carolina for his rights? Jake’s going to sign where he’s going to sign at this point…there’s basically no private negotiating period

To get him signed before he hits UFA and other teams can negotiate with him.

 

[Big Friggin Dummy]

I've long thought Poulin was a dud, but it'd be cool to finally find out 43 years after he was drafted. Like, I don't think any of the young guys in this organization (Poulin, Puustinen, Puljujarvi, etc) are any good but god damn, let's finally find out instead of inevitably signing another couple of Nietos and Acciaris tomorrow.

 

[Ryder71]

The Guentzel trade looks even better now.

 

[Andy99]

To get him signed before he hits UFA and other teams can negotiate with him.

Other teams are negotiating now lol…it’s over for all intents and purposes

 

[Gurglesons]

I've long thought Poulin was a dud, but it'd be cool to finally find out 43 years after he was drafted. Like, I don't think any of the young guys in this organization (Poulin, Puustinen, Puljujarvi, etc) are any good but god damn, let's finally find out instead of inevitably signing another couple of Nietos and Acciaris tomorrow.

Nieto's back in December and 100% is guaranteed a role with this team despite focusing on youth being the mantra.

 

[Andy99]

I've long thought Poulin was a dud, but it'd be cool to finally find out 43 years after he was drafted. Like, I don't think any of the young guys in this organization (Poulin, Puustinen, Puljujarvi, etc) are any good but god damn, let's finally find out instead of inevitably signing another couple of Nietos and Acciaris tomorrow.

Poulin doesn’t have the skating to be a NHL player…you can only work so much on that…that was his knock at draft time…it’s why at least average skating is so important

 

[Ryder71]

Koivunen, Pono, Bunting, 44th OA and Cruz for a measly TB 2025 3RD ROUNDER?

 

[Gurglesons]

Brännström is not being qualified.

We better be all f***ing over that.

 

[SomeDude]

Brannstrom not getting a QO from Sens. Type of reclamation project we should be all over.

 

[Empoleon8771]

Poulin doesn’t have the skating to be a NHL player…you can only work so much on that…that was his knock at draft time…it’s why at least average skating is so important

This is honestly where I'm at with Poulin as well.

I'd personally use him as a trade chip for another reclamation project type because I don't have any confidence in him panning out as a NHLer at this point.

 

[Darren McCord]

I hope the core asks out at this point.

Sullivan just hiring and acquiring a bunch of Bostonians is putting a severely bad taste in my mouth.

It's wild that Dubas is letting his legacy be drug down by this. True hockey guy.

The core is the reason sully is still here

 

[Big Friggin Dummy]

Poulin doesn’t have the skating to be a NHL player…you can only work so much on that…that was his knock at draft time…it’s why at least average skating is so important

Good thing we're not a fast team.

 

[Gurglesons]

This is honestly where I'm at with Poulin as well.

I'd personally use him as a trade chip for another reclamation project type because I don't have any confidence in him panning out as a NHLer at this point.

Yeah we've gotten 5 games of him in the NHL, it's over.

Ty Smith vibes.

The core is the reason sully is still here

We shall see!

 

[Empoleon8771]

Yeah we've gotten 5 games of him in the NHL, it's over.

Ty Smith vibes.



We shall see!

Ty Smith is also a bust so I don't know how you think that helps your case.

 

[Jacob]

I’m not sure why we’re settled on Poulin after 6 games. This place never learns.

 

[Empoleon8771]

I’m not sure why we’re settled on Poulin after 6 games. This place never learns.

I'm not saying Poulin is 100% not an NHLer, I just don't have much confidence in him being a NHLer.

From what I've seen, I don't think he has the speed to be an effective winger and I'm not sure they'll open up a center spot for him. With him becoming waiver eligible next year, it's basically do or die time with him. And I've not seen anything to make me think "do" is more likely than "die".

 

[Gurglesons]

Ty Smith is also a bust so I don't know how you think that helps your case.

May be. We never give him a chance here though similarly to Poulin.

I don't mind if players bust, but I'd actually like to see it.

 

[eXile3]

Poulin doesn’t have the skating to be a NHL player…you can only work so much on that…that was his knock at draft time…it’s why at least average skating is so important

If their hockey iq is good enough they can get by.

A lot of younger players don’t have the skating at the time of the draft and improve on it later. It’s impossible to tell which ones will and which ones won’t. Poulin didn’t.

 

[Andy99]

May be. We never give him a chance here though similarly to Poulin.

I don't mind if players bust, but I'd actually like to see it.

You won’t because his way to center on this team is now blocked by Hayes lol

 

[Big Friggin Dummy]

Yeah, I mean, Ty Smith very probably sucks shit too. But again, let's see (I know he's gone, but point stands)? Zero reason to sign multiple years' worth of vet losers on inflated deals when we have young losers on cheap deals here.

Not like this team's anything within miles of a contender anymore. They might not even make the playoffs again while Sid's still playing.