AuroraBorealis
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Issue is that 7.5M in Florida is not the same as 7.5M elsewhere. He wouldn't have taken that here.
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Gurglesons
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No income tax and a gorgeous part of Florida with the chance to play with Kuch? I mean it’s a pretty nice opportunity, haha.
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A few thoughts after catching up (more or less) with the last several pages:
- Even if the Pens are rebuilding/tanking/whatever you want to call it, now is not the time to trade Rust. He still has a full NMC for this season. The return would be terrible. Next year, however, the NMC goes away. That is when you trade Rust, since you can get offers from multiple teams without having to worry about whether Rust will waive.
- Florida's roster may have only had a couple of their own drafted players, but the draft certainly was a key role in building the team. Start with the obvious fact that Barkov and Ekblad were both high draft picks, then add the fact that Tkachuk could be acquired because they could offer Huberdeau and Weegar in return. Another player was acquired as part of the Trocheck trade. In order to trade for good players, you need something to offer in return.
- I wouldn't use the Walman trade as any sort of comparable for anything. Word is, Detroit never offered him to anyone else. For that matter, word is San Jose would have been willing to just claim him on waivers, but Grier was stunned when Yzerman offered a 2nd to go with him. It basically points to the Sharks being the first team called, and they accepted the offer before Yzerman could change his mind. Guess the Red Wings were desperate to clear some cap space quickly.
- One big problem with wanting to make trades is that the other team has to be willing to make the trade as well. I admit to being surprised the Pens haven't been able to move Smith yet. I'm not so surprised they haven't been able to move out any of the older players on multi-year deals.
Edit: I should note that I don't say any of this to excuse Dubas. Just gathering various thoughts I had.
- Even if the Pens are rebuilding/tanking/whatever you want to call it, now is not the time to trade Rust. He still has a full NMC for this season. The return would be terrible. Next year, however, the NMC goes away. That is when you trade Rust, since you can get offers from multiple teams without having to worry about whether Rust will waive.
- Florida's roster may have only had a couple of their own drafted players, but the draft certainly was a key role in building the team. Start with the obvious fact that Barkov and Ekblad were both high draft picks, then add the fact that Tkachuk could be acquired because they could offer Huberdeau and Weegar in return. Another player was acquired as part of the Trocheck trade. In order to trade for good players, you need something to offer in return.
- I wouldn't use the Walman trade as any sort of comparable for anything. Word is, Detroit never offered him to anyone else. For that matter, word is San Jose would have been willing to just claim him on waivers, but Grier was stunned when Yzerman offered a 2nd to go with him. It basically points to the Sharks being the first team called, and they accepted the offer before Yzerman could change his mind. Guess the Red Wings were desperate to clear some cap space quickly.
- One big problem with wanting to make trades is that the other team has to be willing to make the trade as well. I admit to being surprised the Pens haven't been able to move Smith yet. I'm not so surprised they haven't been able to move out any of the older players on multi-year deals.
Edit: I should note that I don't say any of this to excuse Dubas. Just gathering various thoughts I had.
Exactly…8 x $8M in Carolina is the same as 7 x $7.5 or so in Florida…he must really wanted to go to Tampa…his agent may have even reached out
Gurglesons
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The good GMs make the trades.
Kindergarten Kyle is more concerned about how the trades look on paper than actually creating a team that has a chance.
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Malkinstheman
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Friedman also saying something like 4m x 6 for Tanev lol
Gurglesons
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Leafs are in just as much hell as us lol.
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On to something serious for once...
Where are we going when CapFriendly shuts down?
Where are we going when CapFriendly shuts down?
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Worse tbh. We got to see this core/era win. The Leafs are just gonna be in perpetual hell forever until Matthews leaves.
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What's his name said he was going to make a new one and call it "STANLEYCAP".
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He’s the type of guy a team picks up at the deadline to shore up a middle six hole, no one needs his services for a whole year.I'm not saying Reilly Smith doesn't have value but I don't think teams are like holy **** I need to secure Reilly Smith's services before free agency starts. He's the key to my offseason.
We should start both bitching if he isn't gone by week to week and half after free agency starts and the market starts to die down.
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