Post-Game Talk: Game XIV - Sid the Magnificent

[dr robbie]

Feels like it had been a long time since Sid had a hat trick. I hope this isn't his last!

My daughter was watching the game with me and I told her to try to remember the hattrick because it might be his last . (she was asking why people were throwing hats onto the ice)

 

[Ryder71]

You guys hated the signing too

I did, still not thrilled with Acciari though.

 

[Turin]

Washington randomly can’t stop winning either after they told Backy to take a hike.

 

[Ryder71]

My daughter was watching the game with me and I told her to try to remember the hattrick because it might be his last . (she was asking why people were throwing hats onto the ice)

Tell her: because they're ''litter bugs''.

 

[PensandCaps]

They are obviously not. Small sample size. Look at their goal differential and ours. Pens are a much better team. Caps are getting some timely goaltending and puck luck but they are not very good. Pens are still better than our 8-6 record suggests.

Yah, that Caps roster is obviously not gonna hold up over 82 games.

 

[Shady Machine]

I always thought EK65 was comparable to Letang offensively, but in a short 10+ games he’s made me look stupid.

Just unbelievable talent in the ozone.

Don’t worry, we all knew you were stupid

 

[Shaftception]

Watching Sid's second goal, it's such an underrated part of his game but I think he might be the best player ever at the redirect goal.

In seconds he knows exactly what angle to hold his blade to direct a shot in whatever direction he needs it to go. He probably scored 50 goals in his career off redirects alone, and most are from absurd angles, through his legs, etc.

I'll always remember this one in particular.

The puck had to have been going 8 feet wide of the net, and yet he deflects it into the net while his back is facing the shot. Just absurd hand-eye coordination.

In some ways, he might somehow not be appreciated enough.

 

[Pancakes]

People fairly criticize Sullivan for not making changes as aggressively as he should, I think this is a terrific change and really shows what he can do if he decides to make tactical changes.

I'll give him credit but I do agree with the many others saying that these changes were long overdue.

He could have done this last year and possibly saved that season.

But some coaches in his position would never change so props to him for doing it eventually I guess. Lord knows Bylsma went down with the ship in terms of his system and so did Therrien and many before him

 

[Ryder71]

Don’t worry, we all knew you were stupid

What a low blow! I love it!!!! lol

 

[Le Magnifique 66]

This is absolutely a game the Penguins would have lost last season. If nothing else, it's nice to see that trend has changed.

The last couple of seasons to be honest. I don't recall since the b2b them coming out that strong in the 3rd and taking it to the other team. Even when we took the 3-2 lead, we still kept pushing. It was really nice to watch, hopefully we stay healthy and they give us this product the rest of the year

 

[ChaosAgent]

++++++++++Crosby, an all-time great game by him. Just outstanding in all zones but especially Guentzel's goal and his 2nd. Sid has the best hand-eye and backhand in the history of the game, and it's amazing when he puts them to work.
+++++EK65
++3rd line
+PK

+/- Jarry, ended well?

--Geno. Outside of 1 shift, looked like Carter out there. Drunk or food poisoning. He'll be better Thursday.

 

[Zirakzigil]

Watching Sid's second goal, it's such an underrated part of his game but I think he might be the best player ever at the redirect goal.

In seconds he knows exactly what angle to hold his blade to direct a shot in whatever direction he needs it to go. He probably scored 50 goals in his career off redirects alone, and most are from absurd angles, through his legs, etc.

I'll always remember this one in particular.

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The puck had to have been going 8 feet wide of the net, and yet he deflects it into the net while his back is facing the shot. Just absurd hand-eye coordination.

In some ways, he might somehow not be appreciated enough.

Hes great at it, the best? I dunno. Smyth, Pavelski and Holmstrom come to mind just off the top of my head.

 

[Pancakes]

Hes great at it, the best? I dunno. Smyth, Pavelski and Holmstrom come to mind just off the top of my head.

Hard for me to rate anyone above Pavelski when it comes to tips. He's unbelievable

 

[Zirakzigil]

Hard for me to rate anyone above Pavelski when it comes to tips. He's unbelievable

He probably is the best currently. Smyth was nuts in his prime with the Oilers. Holmstrom made a living doing that on championship Wings teams too. So hard to compare eras. Smyth and Holmstrom did it when you could hack and abuse people in front of the net. Surprised both can still walk after their careers.

 

[BusinessGoose]

My daughter was watching the game with me and I told her to try to remember the hattrick because it might be his last . (she was asking why people were throwing hats onto the ice)

Glad to see hats on ice on an away game

 

[Pancakes]

He probably is the best currently. Smyth was nuts in his prime with the Oilers. Holmstrom made a living doing that on championship Wings teams too. So hard to compare eras. Smyth and Holmstrom did it when you could hack and abuse people in front of the net. Surprised both can still walk after their careers.

Hornqvist was quite good at them too.

With Hornqvist and Holmstrom half of it was just that they were always always there lol. You go to the net enough and are willing to take the abuse and you'll look good at tipping pucks in

 

[Zirakzigil]

Hornqvist was quite good at them too.

With Hornqvist and Holmstrom half of it was just that they were always always there lol. You go to the net enough and are willing to take the abuse and you'll look good at tipping pucks in

Still have to have insane hand eye coordination to tip pucks flying at you at 100mph

 

[ChaosAgent]

Glad to see hats on ice on an away game

Columbus isn't actually an away game.

 

[Peat]

This game was closer that I would have liked but a win is a win.

I thought Jarry had a rough game, but if his "rough games" are 3 goals against on 31 shots, that's nothing to be upset about.

I'd like to see that weak goal again to see how screened he was. Not because I think he was so screened he couldn't get it, but because I want to confirm that's his kryptonite. Although kryptonite or not, that was still just a goddamn awful one to let in.

People fairly criticize Sullivan for not making changes as aggressively as he should, I think this is a terrific change and really shows what he can do if he decides to make tactical changes.

I'll give him credit but I do agree with the many others saying that these changes were long overdue.

He could have done this last year and possibly saved that season.

But some coaches in his position would never change so props to him for doing it eventually I guess. Lord knows Bylsma went down with the ship in terms of his system and so did Therrien and many before him

Whenever this has come up in the past I've brought up that I didn't think the Pens stars wanted to do it.

Tbh, after the first couple of periods, I still think it's a tough sell for them. The team's discipline absolutely wandered and gave Columbus life after a very tough opening ten minutes for them.

I certainly think it's a tough enough sell that I couldn't imagine it being made without the alarm that was missing the playoffs last year. I'm not saying Sully was even thinking about it, but there's multiple parts there. I certainly don't think he was able to make the sale on defensive discipline in general last year.

 

[Pancakes]

I certainly think it's a tough enough sell that I couldn't imagine it being made without the alarm that was missing the playoffs last year. I'm not saying Sully was even thinking about it, but there's multiple parts there. I certainly don't think he was able to make the sale on defensive discipline in general last year.

I don't think you're wrong but I also think it's the job of a coach to get buy-in from the players. If Sully thinks they need to play a certain way to be successful then it's up to him to get that buy-in from the team.

Maybe he couldn't have succeeded at getting them to play this way last year but maybe he never even tried. None of us are in the room so I guess we'll never know. The results on the ice last year certainly make it look like they stuck to the same tired crap for way too long.

But, last year is last year. Maybe Sully and the team have found the formula now. Here's hoping.

 

[tom_servo]

Hard for me to rate anyone above Pavelski when it comes to tips. He's unbelievable

There was some discussion about this once that Crosby tip-in highlight video was posted on HF.

People who'd thought it was easily Pavelski had their minds blown a bit by the sheer volume and variety of Sid's tip-in game.

I'll see if I can find that thread.

 

[Pancakes]

There was some discussion about this once that Crosby tip-in highlight video was posted on HF.

People who'd thought it was easily Pavelski had their minds blown a bit by the sheer volume and variety of Sid's tip-in game.

I'll see if I can find that thread.

I'm curious what the numbers look like recently because it feels like Sid has scored less of these as he's gotten older. I don't think he goes to the net with the same vehemence that he did when he was younger.

 

[Peat]

I don't think you're wrong but I also think it's the job of a coach to get buy-in from the players. If Sully thinks they need to play a certain way to be successful then it's up to him to get that buy-in from the team.

Maybe he couldn't have succeeded at getting them to play this way last year but maybe he never even tried. None of us are in the room so I guess we'll never know. The results on the ice last year certainly make it look like they stuck to the same tired crap for way too long.

But, last year is last year. Maybe Sully and the team have found the formula now. Here's hoping.

Oh you're not wrong, just that the flipside of this is that the stars do have the leverage here.

In any case, as you said, this is this year, here's hoping this is the formula.

 

[tom_servo]

I'm curious what the numbers look like recently because it feels like Sid has scored less of these as he's gotten older. I don't think he goes to the net with the same vehemence that he did when he was younger.

Yeah here it is, already six years old, damn

Sidney Crosby Master of Deflection

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[bathroomSTAAL]

Watching Sid's second goal, it's such an underrated part of his game but I think he might be the best player ever at the redirect goal.

In seconds he knows exactly what angle to hold his blade to direct a shot in whatever direction he needs it to go. He probably scored 50 goals in his career off redirects alone, and most are from absurd angles, through his legs, etc.

I'll always remember this one in particular.

View attachment 768435

The puck had to have been going 8 feet wide of the net, and yet he deflects it into the net while his back is facing the shot. Just absurd hand-eye coordination.

In some ways, he might somehow not be appreciated enough.

This one's great too cause you know Orpik was actually aiming for the net and missed it by that much