Post-Game Talk: Game #74 - Deja Vu All Over Again - Tampa Bay 6 BRUINS 3 F

KrejciMVP

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I'm not big on piling on the goalie when teams lose.

I feel like it's an oversimplification. Goalies get too much credit and too much blame.

This team has, and has had, a lot of warts for a while now.
This jeckyl and Hyde act of theirs is nothing new.
They had hit streaks the previous two seasons as well where they seemed like a lock to make the playoffs.
This team is fools gold.

I save my piling on for our yearly collapse in March lol. This clown show has earned it. I dont blame rask nearly as much as the suits upstairs
 

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Sweeping changes are needed, keep Cassidy as an assistant and fire the rest Pandolpho and Sacco suck, get rid of Sweeney and Neely, Cam can be a PR guy and Sweeney in charge of scouting. As for the team we need 1 top 4 D, 1 top 2 D, 2 goal scoring top 6 forwards, a better reliable backup and a much better starter.

Rask just not tough mentally and lets in too many softies. 2 U's 2 K's yeah right how about 1F and 1U.
 

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Third season in a row they've run Rask into the ground because this management group is completely incapable of providing adequate back-up goaltending support.

3rd game in 4 nights and Rask lays an egg. Not surprising at all if you look at his past history. I have no idea what Cassidy is thinking playing Rask on both games of the B2B and again tonight.

Shame on this management group for not providing something that should be one of the easiest things in the sport to acquire.

Some here said back in October that back-up goaltending would be an issue with the struggles of Khudobin, and Sweeney would be best off being proactive and trying to find a replacement for Khudobin, who based on Cassidy's usage of Rask this week, does not have the confidence of his coach. Instead they sat on their hands, hoping it would all work out, and now this team is headed for a 3rd straight DNQ, and one of the reasons is the absolute failure to provide quality back-up goaltending support.

Lots of folks here blaming Rask, I blame management.
 

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Third season in a row they've run Rask into the ground because this management group is completely incapable of providing adequate back-up goaltending support.

3rd game in 4 nights and Rask lays an egg. Not surprising at all if you look at his past history. I have no idea what Cassidy is thinking playing Rask on both games of the B2B and again tonight.

Shame on this management group for not providing something that should be one of the easiest things in the sport to acquire.

Some here said back in October that back-up goaltending would be an issue with the struggles of Khudobin, and Sweeney would be best off being proactive and trying to find a replacement for Khudobin, who based on Cassidy's usage of Rask this week, does not have the confidence of his coach. Instead they sat on their hands, hoping it would all work out, and now this team is headed for a 3rd straight DNQ, and one of the reasons is the absolute failure to provide quality back-up goaltending support.

Lots of folks here blaming Rask, I blame management.

Agree 100%.
 

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Their losses mount, their play grows more unkempt, and all of a sudden the Bruins are in trouble. It’s nearly playoff time again, and unless things change in a hurry — such as Saturday night in Brooklyn — the month of April will be their swan song.

Something wicked this way comes. Or so it seems.

Faced with a depleted Tampa Bay team Thursday night at the Garden, the Bruins lost hold of leads of 1-0, 2-1, and 3-2, and then folded up in the third period on the way to a dispiriting 6-3 loss before a reported full house of 17,565 on Causeway Street. The night ended with hails of boos resonating in a near-empty building.


http://www.bostonglobe.com/sports/bruins/2017/03/23/bruins/o685VLef8pOTW4qYoeOiVP/story.html




“That [Drouin] goal, I should keep it tight there,” Rask said. “It doesn’t help when you let in that. It was bad.”

Mistakes happen. The best goalies act as erasers, scrubbing out skaters’ errors and correcting them with glove saves and kickouts. When his teammates needed assistance, the kind he has provided in the past, Rask poured gasoline on the flames instead of dousing them with a hose.

“You have to,” Rask (23 saves on 28 shots) said of his ability to negate other players’ mistakes. “A lot of times, that’s the case. A goalie has to make a couple extra stops. Today, I didn’t. That’s part of my job to accept the fact that sometimes it’s your fault. A couple times, I should have made a save.”

http://www.bostonglobe.com/sports/b...like-goalie/mnpioDMGOuBBweRKx1qMgL/story.html
 

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Ouch, a thousand times ouch. They appeared tighter than a hangmans noose at times. Marchand in particular is visuably frustrated with getting little out of his game right now despite his pressing to make it happen. Pastranak has a little of that going on as well. Given how they have carried the team so many times and a burning desire to win, its so difficult for them when knowing it's going sideways on them. The trade mark of Claude's tenure was defensive play. It was if they suddenly forgot how to defend in unbelievably giving up 3 leads.

The team appeared to be playing not to lose as opposed to being determined to win. Have to believe the nightmares of the last two seasons are in their head. Five loses in a row may be simply too much to physiologically recover from at this stage. Saturday has to be seen as a game 7 of a PO series. Out of options at this point.
 

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if we dont win tomorrow. Im calling them done.
Isles will be playing their 3rd in 4 nites and 2nd of a back 2 back.

We lose this- im finding better things to do with my time.
 

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Third season in a row they've run Rask into the ground because this management group is completely incapable of providing adequate back-up goaltending support.

3rd game in 4 nights and Rask lays an egg. Not surprising at all if you look at his past history. I have no idea what Cassidy is thinking playing Rask on both games of the B2B and again tonight.

Shame on this management group for not providing something that should be one of the easiest things in the sport to acquire.

Some here said back in October that back-up goaltending would be an issue with the struggles of Khudobin, and Sweeney would be best off being proactive and trying to find a replacement for Khudobin, who based on Cassidy's usage of Rask this week, does not have the confidence of his coach. Instead they sat on their hands, hoping it would all work out, and now this team is headed for a 3rd straight DNQ, and one of the reasons is the absolute failure to provide quality back-up goaltending support.

Lots of folks here blaming Rask, I blame management.

Khudobin has actually been better than Rask lately.

If Rask tires at the 55 game mark every year maybe he should get into better shape? Dude makes 7 million. How about living up to your contract? How about saying "man, I lose focus and I fatigue a lot down the stretch, maybE I should train harder/different mentally and physically. This isn't a ****ing new phenomenon.

The collapses aren't solely on anyone. It's a collective pile of steaming **** from the top on down, but individuals need to take ownership and work on their flaws.
 

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Mental and physical not there for this club and they had it all in their hands this week
win and your basically in with 2 home games but now they are close to losing all 4.
I think you have to blow up the FO and Coaching and also move as many vets as possible. This is going make 3 years failing in March.
 

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I'm sure as hell not gonna defend Rask for last night. Played like poop. Even he says so.


But................always a but........................lets assume they move him...........who's next in line for annual collapse blame?

Just asking.
 

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That was the stinkaroo of all stinkaroo's. Heh heh

Where does Stevie Y find all these player's ie; Dumont, Doctrin nice hockey players.

For an early Christmas present I would like either Zac Rinaldo or Tyler Randell called up to play wing with Pasta's. Enough is enough.

Next The just called up Jaroslav Halak and the New York Islanders.

My heart can't take much more.

Well anyhoo Go Bruins!!!:help:
 

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As I play the position I know how hard it is but...... Rask has to stop the shot of the 4th goal. I mean this shot was not bar down, inside the post. It went right through him. His reaction tells the tale.

He knew he should have had that. I really think it is time to put Khudobin in. Shake things up a little.

This being said, the use of Rask has not been handled correctly either. That is really on Sweeney. There was not to get a decent back up at the deadline for Rask. Budaj was available as we can plainly see. Just not smart at all and if we DNQ then Sweeney needs to lose his job.

I see that Edmonton and Montreal are doing just fine right now ..... just sayin
 

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Khudobin has actually been better than Rask lately.

If Rask tires at the 55 game mark every year maybe he should get into better shape? Dude makes 7 million. How about living up to your contract? How about saying "man, I lose focus and I fatigue a lot down the stretch, maybE I should train harder/different mentally and physically. This isn't a ****ing new phenomenon.

The collapses aren't solely on anyone. It's a collective pile of steaming **** from the top on down, but individuals need to take ownership and work on their flaws.

Agreed true elite goalies thrive on heavy workloads, Holtby for example. I would love to see Rask traded in the off season, Khudobin as well then sign Ben Bishop and someone like Mike Condon or Peter Budaj as a backup.
 

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I'm sure as hell not gonna defend Rask for last night. Played like poop. Even he says so.


But................always a but........................lets assume they move him...........who's next in line for annual collapse blame?

Just asking.

clearly another collapse falls squarely on the shoulders of Joe Sacco:sarcasm:

In all seriousness, I guess one could point at Sweeney for not strengthening this lineup nearly enough to add solid depth rather than the mediocre depth they have now but I won`t pin all the blame with him as I just don`t see big deals being made and I am a believer that these days, the summer appears to be the time to make those deals where GM`s seem to be a bit more open to them.

I think much of this, ironically comes down to a complete lack of consistently strong drafting under Chia which, had there actually been solid drafting, as players are moved out, kids promoted and ready to go but this organization hasn`t really had that enough.

I am on the record as a fan who firmly believes in what Sweeney and his team has done as far as drafting goes, problem is, that takes time.

The other big fail is on Sweeney as well, haven`t liked his identification of pro talent that he`s brought in

I watched the body language of that team last night and despised what I saw, looked all too familiar. Many here (myself included) often used the Leafs yearly collapses down the stretch as my verbal punching bag yet, here we are, staring a 3rd year in a row where this team has looked eerily like the many Leaf teams I used to mock.

Not good
 

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The sticking up for Rask for being tired and mentally fatigued is pathetic. When does the onus go on him to fix his problems? Is this what the participation trophy generation has produced?
 

Therick67

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I'm sure as hell not gonna defend Rask for last night. Played like poop. Even he says so.


But................always a but........................lets assume they move him...........who's next in line for annual collapse blame?

Just asking.

Good question, but I'm sick of the annual 'Tuukka is tired' and missing the playoffs crap.

You can miss the playoffs with a guy making a lot less than 7.5 million.

I'm sure Marchand, Bergeron, etc get tired also.
 

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Third season in a row they've run Rask into the ground because this management group is completely incapable of providing adequate back-up goaltending support.

3rd game in 4 nights and Rask lays an egg. Not surprising at all if you look at his past history. I have no idea what Cassidy is thinking playing Rask on both games of the B2B and again tonight.

Shame on this management group for not providing something that should be one of the easiest things in the sport to acquire.

Some here said back in October that back-up goaltending would be an issue with the struggles of Khudobin, and Sweeney would be best off being proactive and trying to find a replacement for Khudobin, who based on Cassidy's usage of Rask this week, does not have the confidence of his coach. Instead they sat on their hands, hoping it would all work out, and now this team is headed for a 3rd straight DNQ, and one of the reasons is the absolute failure to provide quality back-up goaltending support.

Lots of folks here blaming Rask, I blame management.

Management is who decided to go into this season with a defensive corps and a bottom 6 of collective ****, so they do deserve the lion's share of blame for this year's collapse. That being said, Tuukka did not look sharp last night at all, so I get why people are upset with him. Hell, he hasn't looked sharp for a while now, if I'm being honest. My hope is that he's simply worn down, but I fear he really isn't a guy that can carry the team like a true number one goalie does.
 

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