Post-Game Talk: Game #74 - Deja Vu All Over Again - Tampa Bay 6 BRUINS 3 F

[Hali33]

I get fatigue when they were actually overplaying him but there has been no improvement with rest.

And really, if he can't handle a tough regular season workload how can one actually expect him to handle additional playoff games when he's gotta be the guy every game and he's already running on fumes halfway through the regular season.

 

[ODAAT]

The sticking up for Rask for being tired and mentally fatigued is pathetic. When does the onus go on him to fix his problems? Is this what the participation trophy generation has produced?

yep, let`s think about this for a second, there`s a goalie in Edmonton, has played in 67 games who`s earning 4 sheets, here`s the stats below

http://www.hockeydb.com/ihdb/stats/pdisplay.php?pid=100197

http://www.hockeydb.com/ihdb/stats/pdisplay.php?pid=84346

This is the lightest part of the schedule Rask has faced this year as far as games goes and while I understand the first half (3/4) were a workload, to let in some of the goals he`s let in is inexcusable.

 

[BruinDust]

Khudobin has actually been better than Rask lately.

If Rask tires at the 55 game mark every year maybe he should get into better shape? Dude makes 7 million. How about living up to your contract? How about saying "man, I lose focus and I fatigue a lot down the stretch, maybE I should train harder/different mentally and physically. This isn't a ****ing new phenomenon.

The collapses aren't solely on anyone. It's a collective pile of steaming **** from the top on down, but individuals need to take ownership and work on their flaws.

I don't know about better, but there was no reason for Khudobin to not get a start in one of those B2B games, especially when he's played pretty good his last few starts, and it was the last B2B of the season.

And I don't disagree on Rask. He needs to get in better shape or change his training routine. Some of this is on him as a player. But the fatigue factor is an issue with him, always has been.

But this isn't exclusive to Rask. The Capitals ran Holtby into the ground last season, and it showed with a dip in his performance come playoff time.

But you could see this burn-out of Rask coming a mile away. Even when McIntyre was up in January, he never did start, Rask started every single game.

The saddest thing is we've seen it the 2 years previous. Yup Rask should take ownership and get in better shape. I also wonder how many goaltenders could handle his workload, in particular how many games he's started since Xmas? I'm guessing not many.

And I blame management for not recognizing this trend and failing to do anything about it. Folks here wanting Sweeney to go out and acquire big-name talent in trades, yet he can't even solve a freakin' back-up goaltending problem. Pathetic.

Don't get me wrong, I'm not solely blaming collapses 1, 2, and soon to be 3 on just back-ups and Rask, there are many other factors involved. But it's a factor regardless, and one that should of never of happened if the front office had any clue about being proactive and any ability whatsover to judge true NHL talent.

 

[kdog82]

I get fatigue when they were actually overplaying him but there has been no improvement with rest.

And really, if he can't handle a tough regular season workload how can one actually expect him to handle additional playoff games when he's gotta be the guy every game and he's already running on fumes halfway through the regular season.

Rask brutal and cost the game, no doubt. Needs to be way better on Saturday or golf arrangements can start being made.

 

[BMC]

ORG, the preferred method of packing up all of your belongings at the end of the regular season.

 

[ODAAT]

Rask brutal and cost the game, no doubt. Needs to be way better on Saturday or golf arrangements can start being made.

hate to say it, but I`d start making those "arrangements" now

 

[kdog82]

hate to say it, but I`d start making those "arrangements" now

If Islanders lose tonight in Pittsburgh and Bruins beat them tomorrow I would disagree.

 

[Over the volcano]

The sticking up for Rask for being tired and mentally fatigued is pathetic. When does the onus go on him to fix his problems? Is this what the participation trophy generation has produced?

There is that, but there is also the fact that the whole team performed better when Cassidy stepped in and put a regular rotation in net rather than leaning in/on Rask. They seem to have tightened up as a group and it's hurt them.

 

[ODAAT]

If Islanders lose tonight in Pittsburgh and Bruins beat them tomorrow I would disagree.

your more optimistic than I am, to be honest, wouldn`t sleep on those Bolts, injuries and trade many off the roster, have gone 6-3-1 in last 10

 

[patty59]

I don't know about better, but there was no reason for Khudobin to not get a start in one of those B2B games, especially when he's played pretty good his last few starts, and it was the last B2B of the season.

And I don't disagree on Rask. He needs to get in better shape or change his training routine. Some of this is on him as a player. But the fatigue factor is an issue with him, always has been.

But this isn't exclusive to Rask. The Capitals ran Holtby into the ground last season, and it showed with a dip in his performance come playoff time.

But you could see this burn-out of Rask coming a mile away. Even when McIntyre was up in January, he never did start, Rask started every single game.

The saddest thing is we've seen it the 2 years previous. Yup Rask should take ownership and get in better shape. I also wonder how many goaltenders could handle his workload, in particular how many games he's started since Xmas? I'm guessing not many.

And I blame management for not recognizing this trend and failing to do anything about it. Folks here wanting Sweeney to go out and acquire big-name talent in trades, yet he can't even solve a freakin' back-up goaltending problem. Pathetic.

Don't get me wrong, I'm not solely blaming collapses 1, 2, and soon to be 3 on just back-ups and Rask, there are many other factors involved. But it's a factor regardless, and one that should of never of happened if the front office had any clue about being proactive and any ability whatsover to judge true NHL talent.

If the Bruins had beat Toronto I'd guess Khudobin would have got the start against Ottawa. It's the same thing as last year and the year before that, they just couldn't get a win or any breathing room to give him a rest and it just compounded all season long.

 

[BMC]

boing



boing



boing



splat

 

[BigBear83]

For so much "leadership" in the room, this is the most mentally soft team ive ever watched in any sport .. please find a way to get rid of krejci and figure out what the hell to do with backes.. ive been sticking up for spooner his whole career, but at what point are you going to get some balls and actually play physical. most scared guy on the ice in every game we play
-as far as cassidy is concerned, what happened to the positive changes when you took over.. put in cehlarik , put in morrow.. implement a faster system and put teams on their heels. havent done that in the last six games

 

[ODAAT]

For so much "leadership" in the room, this is the most mentally soft team ive ever watched in any sport .. please find a way to get rid of krejci and figure out what the hell to do with backes.. ive been sticking up for spooner his whole career, but at what point are you going to get some balls and actually play physical. most scared guy on the ice in every game we play
-as far as cassidy is concerned, what happened to the positive changes when you took over.. put in cehlarik , put in morrow.. implement a faster system and put teams on their heels. havent done that in the last six games

this isn`t a leadership thing, it`s a talent thing, sorry, you won`t convince me this team lacks leadership

 

[NDiesel]

I don't want to be a Bruins fan anymore if this is what we have to go through every season

 

[BruinDust]

If the Bruins had beat Toronto I'd guess Khudobin would have got the start against Ottawa. It's the same thing as last year and the year before that, they just couldn't get a win or any breathing room to give him a rest and it just compounded all season long.

Agree.

It's like last year. They came home from that Western trip losing 4 straight, and were so desperate for a win they ran out Rask, who was sick, vs. the Rangers anyways. He proceeded to get lit up, they pulled him after 1, but by then it was too late and well on their way to consecutive loss No. 5.

 

[LouJersey]

I still don't get the big deal about your highly paid, number one "elite" goalie playing in back to backs down the stretch. It's not a new phenomenon. Goalies have done it forever and didn't have near the creature comforts, nutrition or transportation they have now.

 

[Dennis Bonvie]

Great point, Marty often played 70 + games a year and still played well in the playoffs.

And faced about 5 tough chances per game.

 

[Otherworld]

I miss Tim Thomas .....

 

[OldScool]

I still don't get the big deal about your highly paid, number one "elite" goalie playing in back to backs down the stretch. It's not a new phenomenon. Goalies have done it forever and didn't have near the creature comforts, nutrition or transportation they have now.

I totally agree. Season is on the line - he can rest when they hit the golf course in a few weeks. Suck it up.

 

[Therick67]

I still don't get the big deal about your highly paid, number one "elite" goalie playing in back to backs down the stretch. It's not a new phenomenon. Goalies have done it forever and didn't have near the creature comforts, nutrition or transportation they have now.

Third highest paid goalie in the league, you should be able to lean on him - it's what he gets paid for.

I'm sure Bergeron and Marchand are tired..

 

[NDiesel]

There is no excuse for this team. NONE. If the Leafs can go out and beat a top team like the Jackets, why can't we get a big win this late? If the Sens can claw back for 2 points against the Pens, why is this team incapable of getting a win against the likes of the Bolts?

Every other team is doing what they need to do, but the Bruins decide they don't give a **** about making the playoffs when it matters the most.

I've been optimistic all season, but the Bruins managed to drain that from me once again....

 

[Ivyy13]

Cassidy needs to play the Jersey off their backs video from last year to them. Do they really want to go through that again?

 

[Hali33]

They gave him adequate rest when Cassidy took over. It hasn't helped. They needed their best goaltender for their huge games against TOR/OTT/TB. I understand fatigue when you are overplayed and there's a bunch of games left but holy ****. This is the final stretch here. After missing the playoffs 2 years going on 3 it's all on the ****ing line, find that extra gear and push it.

You don't get beat by someone's ****ing back up.

 

[bruinmann77]

Big Time Goalie do play in crunch time no Excuses

 

[patty59]

Agree.

It's like last year. They came home from that Western trip losing 4 straight, and were so desperate for a win they ran out Rask, who was sick, vs. the Rangers anyways. He proceeded to get lit up, they pulled him after 1, but by then it was too late and well on their way to consecutive loss No. 5.

Yep and he's not getting it done again, but this year they are actually scoring goals.