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Game #7: Kings vs. Sabres - 10/23/14 Kings Beat The Sabres 2-0; ALL HAIL QUICK!

Model62 said:
There are going to be a lot of numbers in the rafters from this group. 32, 11, 8, maybe 23, perhaps 14. Ones that earned there way up there, not like #4.

Buffalo is not a good hockey team. Hey #80! Shhhhhhh.
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The only players number that would get retired is Quick and doughty. If everything holds the way it is. Maybe Brown
 
TwzKing said:
The only players number that would get retired is Quick and doughty. If everything holds the way it is. Maybe Brown
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You're smokin some serious **** if you think Brown is a maybe. I'll guarantee you he is the last LA King to wear 23 and his sweater will probably go to the rafters the first season after he retires.
 
TonySCV said:
Quick's SV% right now is pretty, pretty, pretty good.

Amazing that he was 30 seconds away from having 3 shutouts in 4 games played.
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It also is helping his numbers the amount of shots we are giving up. He has faced 212 SA so far. As the shots go up your SV% does to. Since on average most goalies will give up around 2-3 goals a game, doesn't matter how many shots you face.
 
Bandit said:
You're smokin some serious **** if you think Brown is a maybe. I'll guarantee you he is the last LA King to wear 23 and his sweater will probably go to the rafters the first season after he retires.
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Yep. People, it's not just putting up big numbers that gets your jersey in the rafters, but also importance to the organization and the only 2 (and counting) time American captain to hoist the Cup for the Kings? Yeah, it's gonna happen. No offense to the guys whose jerseys are already up there, but in the end, the franchise did nothing under their watch. This is the golden age of Kings hockey and some of these players are going to be commemorated for it regardless if they have HOF worthy careers.
 
Quattro said:
Not Kopitar?? wth
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You can't retire the whole team lol. Kopitar is a great player but I don't think he is HHoF player? Maybe it's just me.

on Brown the only reason if it does happened is because he is the captain. His play doesn't warrent it, and I don't think he is beloved. Just my opinion.
 
Trolfoli said:
I shouldn't mess with people...

It isn't so much the scoring... but how long until Richards gets tired of playing on the 4th line... He did the work in the offseason... now with the Kings depth there may just not be space for him...

Did a quick look at the Kings games so far.... The lack of scoring outside of the 70's is concerning. It's early.. Gaborik is still out....
Again it's early, so standings will shift (low sample size)... like the Blues should improve from 24th... so

10th Sharks 4-0

21st Wild 1-2
24th Blues 0-0
25th Coyotes 2-3
27th Jets 1-4
26th Oilers 1-6
30th Buffalo 0-2

It's only around 7 games into the season, but the teams the Kings have played so far look to be struggling... maybe with the low number of games and having played the Kings could be a factor on messing with the numbers, but the Kings have yet to register a goal against a team in the top half of the league...

10 of their 16 goals have been in 2 games against the Jets/Oilers.
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The only way a richards trade happens is if he asks for one. I could see maybe in the offseason.
 
TwzKing said:
You can't retire the whole team lol. Kopitar is a great player but I don't think he is HHoF player? Maybe it's just me.

on Brown the only reason if it does happened is because he is the captain. His play doesn't warrent it, and I don't think he is beloved. Just my opinion.
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You do know both Dave Taylor and Rogie Vachon are not in the HOF, right?
 
cyclones22 said:
Yep. People, it's not just putting up big numbers that gets your jersey in the rafters, but also importance to the organization and the only 2 (and counting) time American captain to hoist the Cup for the Kings? Yeah, it's gonna happen. No offense to the guys whose jerseys are already up there, but in the end, the franchise did nothing under their watch. This is the golden age of Kings hockey and some of these players are going to be commemorated for it regardless if they have HOF worthy careers.
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This. Retiring jerseys is about a player's importance to the team more so than the league. Not everyone in the rafters is a HHOFer.

Consider that Brown has already 727 GP as a King. A few of these players have a good shot of breaking Dave Taylor's GP record for the Kings.
 
TwzKing said:
You can't retire the whole team lol. Kopitar is a great player but I don't think he is HHoF player? Maybe it's just me.

on Brown the only reason if it does happened is because he is the captain. His play doesn't warrent it, and I don't think he is beloved. Just my opinion.
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I dunno...when they show spanning shots of the crowd at Kings games or when you're actually there live, there are several players jerseys that dominate above the rest and Brown is one of those jersey's. I certainly think he is.
 
cyclones22 said:
Yep. People, it's not just putting up big numbers that gets your jersey in the rafters, but also importance to the organization and the only 2 (and counting) time American captain to hoist the Cup for the Kings? Yeah, it's gonna happen. No offense to the guys whose jerseys are already up there, but in the end, the franchise did nothing under their watch. This is the golden age of Kings hockey and some of these players are going to be commemorated for it regardless if they have HOF worthy careers.
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I don't know about "nothing" -- a finals run and a huge boost to Kings popularity and California hockey as a whole isn't nothing -- but it's true that they didn't bring home the big prize. I remember watching the run to the SCF as a young fan, and we had a great team. I mean GREAT. Stacked to the brim with HoF players like Gretzky, Coffey, Kurri, Blake, and Robitaille. The rest were no slouches, either -- Sydor, Sandstrom, Zhitnik... yet they couldn't get it done.

Our current team finally did it and a big chunk of them are going in the rafters for it for sure. I think Kopitar, Quick, Doughty, and probably Brown are all shoo-ins. They're all home-grown players and Kings fixtures who played big parts in finally bringing the Cup to LA after decades of trying. That's as important a role to the organization as a whole as I can imagine.
 
driller1 said:
You trying to win fantasy or hockey games?

Because you left out one very important fact when looking at the whole picture. They've given up 9 goals in 7 games.
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I'm just looking ahead at the playoffs... This team is one Gaborik injury away from having their offense shut off... lots of injuries in this game... Kings don't seem to have an answer, lines or depth players stepping up, to an injury to a first line wing. Planning for contingencies is kinda important.

Defense is fine, but the Kings last year couldn't just rely on their defense alone to win games in the playoffs.
 
Out of that pack it should be Quick first and foremost. The Kings don't win their first Cup without him. Hell, they don't even make the playoffs.
 
Perro said:
The only way a richards trade happens is if he asks for one. I could see maybe in the offseason.
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I agree it will only happen with Richards requesting a trade. The only question is how much frustration does Richards have playing on the 4th line... now if that line starts scoring it's a whole different world, but if it turns into Richards trying to set up Clifford/Nolan and just watching them fan on passes night in and night out... with Richards drive to compete, at some point somethings got to give... Does that happen mid season or next off season?

A way around it could be to throw a young ELC that can shoot on the 4th with Richards so something like Clifford/Richards/Toffoli 2.0.... Wouldn't have to be someone like Drouin... maybe Weal would work?
 
Trolfoli said:
I'm just looking ahead at the playoffs... This team is one Gaborik injury away from having their offense shut off... lots of injuries in this game... Kings don't seem to have an answer, lines or depth players stepping up, to an injury to a first line wing. Planning for contingencies is kinda important.

Defense is fine, but the Kings last year couldn't just rely on their defense alone to win games in the playoffs.
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There's only so much you can do with the cap. Every team is an injury away, or a poor performance away, from not being as good as they could be. It's the teams that can adapt the best that win.
 
McNabb looks better on the third pairing with Greene.

They threw him into the deep end for the home opener, but they've cut his minutes since. For the Blues game, he didn't even play 10 minutes because Sutter didn't send him out for the last half of the third period or any OT. Then he played 16 minutes or something against Minnesota. He's improving, but I would say he's had a more up and down path along the way. But he's young, so that's fine.
 
He shouldn't give a **** where he's playing - this team is a powerhouse.

And how did I miss these Richards posts? I can usually sniff them out like a bloodhound.

TheSentinel said:
I'm lobbying for a statue of Quick in front of staples.
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The perfect pose would be when he sucker punched Perry right in the *****.
 
Asheru said:
McNabb looks better on the third pairing with Greene.

They threw him into the deep end for the home opener, but they've cut his minutes since. For the Blues game, he didn't even play 10 minutes because Sutter didn't send him out for the last half of the third period or any OT. Then he played 16 minutes or something against Minnesota. He's improving, but I would say he's had a more up and down path along the way. But he's young, so that's fine.
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It makes more sense to pair him with a pure stay at home D while he acclimates himself to the Kings system. You could tell that when paired with a hybrid D like Doughty, he wasn't sure where he was supposed to be half the time. He's not as mobile as Muzzin, so he can't take many chances offensively partnered with Drew. When he did, they'd get burned for an odd-man rush or breakaway.
 
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