Post-Game Talk: GAME #48 - B's blow 3 goal lead but get the loser point - Detroit 6 BRUINS 5 F/SO

[bbfan419]

Oh, come on. Take away the Daugavins dangle and we could've swept that series. Rask was much better than Crawford that series, and Crawford was really good.

But we didn't and when we needed him he was not there, game 4 losing 6-5 he could not stop a beach ball, then of course the famous collapse in game 6. I admit that was his best season and he was the reason we beat the Pens in the ECF, but outside of that year he has not really ever carried the team at times like elite goalies do. Would rather have Matt Murray young goalie on cheaper deal and I think he is a very good goalie, then we deal Rask for a d- man.

 

[Fossy21]

Rask starts allowing more than 2 goals a game and his critics come back



He had better numbers than TT did during his run. It was Rask who couldn't hit a wide open net in g1 or completely forgot Bickell was on the ice in game 6. Silly Rask!

He should make more highlight reel saves, I guess.

My philosophy is look at which goals were actually on him, and even when I'm in the mood of finding a scapegoat and he feels like an easy target (for going off on the D and whatever), I'm usually hard-pushed to find any fault in Tuukka, even in his positioning. He allows softies occasionally (especially the two seasons before this one), but so does/did every goalie ever.

 

[Fossy21]

But we didn't and when we needed him he was not there, game 4 losing 6-5 he could not stop a beach ball, then of course the famous collapse in game 6. I admit that was his best season and he was the reason we beat the Pens in the ECF, but outside of that year he has not really ever carried the team at times like elite goalies do. Would rather have Matt Murray young goalie on cheaper deal and I think he is a very good goalie, then we deal Rask for a d- man.

He stopped 41 beach balls that game. That's good for an 87.2% save percentage, which isn't great, but also his worst game in the series, and against a great offensive team. Crawford had an 84.8% SVS that same game.

And as if to prove that you only judge goalies by the least relevant stat, you mention Murray. Jesus.

 

[Pia8988]

But we didn't and when we needed him he was not there, game 4 losing 6-5 he could not stop a beach ball, then of course the famous collapse in game 6. I admit that was his best season and he was the reason we beat the Pens in the ECF, but outside of that year he has not really ever carried the team at times like elite goalies do. Would rather have Matt Murray young goalie on cheaper deal and I think he is a very good goalie, then we deal Rask for a d- man.

.940 1.88
.923 2.08

Elite carry.

 

[Fossy21]

Rask had a .932 SVS% in that series, for god's sake. Against a high-powered offense that won the SC three times in six seasons. Murray had a .920 SVS% against a lacklustre Sharks team that looked asleep 80% of the series. He also faced 138 shots in that series, to Rask's 234 (although Rask played essentially one more game with all the OT). 234 shots in 13 days, to Murray's 138 in 14 days. That takes its toll too.

Can't believe I'm getting this worked up defending a Finnish guy (oh wait, I can, he's on the team I support)

Funny thing is Murray made practically no flashy saves either. Sound positioning and a lot of help from a D corps that performed over expectations (offence dominating possession helped). That's great for a rookie, of course, but so was Cam Ward's run (well, Ward's run was much, much better, but whatever). So the only thing Murray has in common with Thomas's run is that he happened to win the cup. And everyone knows wins aren't even close to being considered a team stat.

 

[LucicIsABeast]

What I see:

Backes loses a battle for the puck and it goes to the wall. Spooner supports and takes the body ( correct play ) as the puck moves down low . Spooner sees Morrow about to get the puck and waits for the out pass along the wall ( again, the correct play by Spooner ) while Backes drifts down low to support but over commits once he sees Morrow lose the puck. The puck comes back to the original opposing player as Spooner can't collapse to support fast enough.

Most of the blame here goes to Backes. He loses the original battle for the puck, then over commits and heads to the wrong side of the net ( looks like he's trying to anticipate where the player is going with the puck ).

Morrow loses his battle down low in what should have been an easy play: corral the puck and send it along the boards to Spooner. I can't tell what happens to the puck other than it obviously gets by Morrow. He makes the correct play by moving to the front of the net as the puck carrier takes it behind the net, but is too slow to react to the pass.

The optics look bad for Spooner because it appears he's not supporting and the eventual goal scorer is a few feet ahead of him. But, he makes the correct play twice in this sequence. You'd like to see him with more hustle going after the goal scorer, but Backes not going to the front of the net and Morrow's inability to collect the puck is not his fault. He got caught flat footed expecting the others to do their job while waiting along the wall where he should be and was too slow to react once Morrow and Backes crumbled down low.

I agree with this assessment. As noted during the game, can't cover two guys at once.

 

[Fossy21]

What I see:

Backes loses a battle for the puck and it goes to the wall. Spooner supports and takes the body ( correct play ) as the puck moves down low . Spooner sees Morrow about to get the puck and waits for the out pass along the wall ( again, the correct play by Spooner ) while Backes drifts down low to support but over commits once he sees Morrow lose the puck. The puck comes back to the original opposing player as Spooner can't collapse to support fast enough.

Most of the blame here goes to Backes. He loses the original battle for the puck, then over commits and heads to the wrong side of the net ( looks like he's trying to anticipate where the player is going with the puck ).

Morrow loses his battle down low in what should have been an easy play: corral the puck and send it along the boards to Spooner. I can't tell what happens to the puck other than it obviously gets by Morrow. He makes the correct play by moving to the front of the net as the puck carrier takes it behind the net, but is too slow to react to the pass.

The optics look bad for Spooner because it appears he's not supporting and the eventual goal scorer is a few feet ahead of him. But, he makes the correct play twice in this sequence. You'd like to see him with more hustle going after the goal scorer, but Backes not going to the front of the net and Morrow's inability to collect the puck is not his fault. He got caught flat footed expecting the others to do their job while waiting along the wall where he should be and was too slow to react once Morrow and Backes crumbled down low.

Had no problem with Spooner on the last goal either.

 

[Gee Wally]

DETROIT — Following Wednesday’s 6-5 shootout loss to the Red Wings, the visiting dressing room at Joe Louis Arena was not in good shape.

Patrice Bergeron, Brad Marchand, and Frank Vatrano conducted postgame interviews in the hallway, unusual because they usually take place in the room. By the time the room was open, one door was off its hinges. When asked what happened, Zdeno Chara said he didn’t know.

Whatever went sideways in the room did not compare to the meltdown that took place on the ice.

http://www.bostonglobe.com/sports/bruins/2017/01/18/bruins/o5CGdTB3n2MRy04LNJPdOM/story.html

 

[KrejciMVP]

Going to be another disaster of a press conference after they fire Claude. Cant wait for that clown show. Hope the media goes hard on the bruins

 

[DitClapper]

Tuukka did the door. Bet on that!

 

[BruinsPortugal]

Going to be another disaster of a press conference after they fire Claude. Cant wait for that clown show. Hope the media goes hard on the bruins

I just hope Charlie is there, at least its gonna be comical and we all can get a good laugh out of it.

 

[caz16]

At least they look to be missing the playoffs by quite a bit this season. They won't keep us hooked and hoping to the last game. Sad though.

 

[Fossy21]

DETROIT — Following Wednesday’s 6-5 shootout loss to the Red Wings, the visiting dressing room at Joe Louis Arena was not in good shape.

Patrice Bergeron, Brad Marchand, and Frank Vatrano conducted postgame interviews in the hallway, unusual because they usually take place in the room. By the time the room was open, one door was off its hinges. When asked what happened, Zdeno Chara said he didn’t know.

Whatever went sideways in the room did not compare to the meltdown that took place on the ice.

http://www.bostonglobe.com/sports/bruins/2017/01/18/bruins/o5CGdTB3n2MRy04LNJPdOM/story.html

Are they already disassembling the place?

 

[ODAAT]

DETROIT — Following Wednesday’s 6-5 shootout loss to the Red Wings, the visiting dressing room at Joe Louis Arena was not in good shape.

Patrice Bergeron, Brad Marchand, and Frank Vatrano conducted postgame interviews in the hallway, unusual because they usually take place in the room. By the time the room was open, one door was off its hinges. When asked what happened, Zdeno Chara said he didn’t know.

Whatever went sideways in the room did not compare to the meltdown that took place on the ice.

http://www.bostonglobe.com/sports/bruins/2017/01/18/bruins/o5CGdTB3n2MRy04LNJPdOM/story.html

I think the players know they just played a huge role in getting their coach canned

 

[Orrfourever]

Tuukka did the door. Bet on that!

It was probably Clode...



Lollygaggers! I know it's baseball still funny.

 

[northeastern]

Amazing that tuukka is blamed for this loss

 

[Blowfish]

Backes
Was brutal

 

[robinsonp16]

Love the Patriots but the only good thing about football season winding down is the media will have plenty of time to thrash the B's hopefully by the beginning of February. This team needs a change in the worst way.

 

[Bruinfanatic]

But we didn't and when we needed him he was not there, game 4 losing 6-5 he could not stop a beach ball, then of course the famous collapse in game 6. I admit that was his best season and he was the reason we beat the Pens in the ECF, but outside of that year he has not really ever carried the team at times like elite goalies do. Would rather have Matt Murray young goalie on cheaper deal and I think he is a very good goalie, then we deal Rask for a d- man.

Your 100% right ,that game 4 was the series ,also don't have any doubt Bruins would have won game six with Thomas.Rask has played well earlier in the season ,but last 4-5 games has looked like the Rask from the last couple of season. Not sure if it's fatigue or what,but he is down to early to deep in his net and can't track the puck.Rask against the Pens might have been the best goaltending I have ever seen,but he has been no where near that in a long time.

 

[Therick67]

At least they look to be missing the playoffs by quite a bit this season. They won't keep us hooked and hoping to the last game. Sad though.

Probably means it's a weak draft also

 

[bbfan419]

Your 100% right ,that game 4 was the series ,also don't have any doubt Bruins would have won game six with Thomas.Rask has played well earlier in the season ,but last 4-5 games has looked like the Rask from the last couple of season. Not sure if it's fatigue or what,but he is down to early to deep in his net and can't track the puck.Rask against the Pens might have been the best goaltending I have ever seen,but he has been no where near that in a long time.

Agreed and I was never saying Rask is not a good goalie, but he is not the saviour some make him out to be. I hope I am wrong and this is just a slump and he comes out of it, but it was not just this past game, he has been trending down since the hot start, which I expected he would not keep up the insanely great numbers from the start, but last few games he has been fighting it, the loss against the Islanders not just his fault, but there were a couple I am sure he would like back. Anyway I mentioned Murray, because he is much younger, cheaper deal and although not flashy, he just makes the saves playing well positionally. If we could say get a Trouba for Rask while getting Murray in a separate deal, that is something I would seriously consider.

 

[BigBear83]

just read through this whole board and read that it was only mentioned twice.. this system is ridiculous.. over five minutes to go and they are helplessly chipping the puck out, giving up possession and hoping it doesnt go far enough for icing.. over and over and over again.. wheres the killer instinct!!? claude and sacco need to go, their system needs to go, our second line center, who shows up for one rush a game, needs to go. most of this post is bashing rask, the lone guy who has given this team a chance on every game..
too many centers playing wing. too many grinders that tailor to claudes system of board play. at the heart of this team is a system. a system that is wash, rinse repeat over and over again.. even god damn eddie olychuck knew that this team is a mess. "just score one goal and this team is fragile, detroit will be able to get back into it." nailed it. claude is a good coach sure. but his team has been doing the same thing/strategy for the last nine years!!

 

[4ORRBRUIN]

Tuukka did the door. Bet on that!

Maybe he hit himself with it, He's looked like Khudobin in the last two games

 

[Dupell6]

Backes
Was brutal

Backes was putrid...put him back on wing

 

[BMC]

First period:

Second period:

Third period:

Overtime:

Shootout:

Postgame:

Awesome! Now I don't need to read the GDT to figure out what happened