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Game #4: Kings vs. Oilers - 10/14/14 Kings Beat Oilers 6-1

redcard said:
Neither. IR doesn't save cap space, his contract will still count against the cap. Which means we don't have the space to call anyone up (there are emergency provisions but we're not at that point yet and likely carry a penalty).

If he's going to miss 7 more games they can put him on Long Term IR which will allow them to spend over the cap, but that means he's out for 2 more weeks.

In all likelihood its just a standard procedure thing. Its retroactive Oct. 8 so he can be taken off at any time, there may be an insurance benefit or something to having him on the IR, and it saves them a step if they do have to call someone up on an emergency basis later.
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Thx for explanation, I always thought IR means salary cap savings
 
markisonfire said:
There's just a lot more to say after a loss. I don't want to sound rude, but that really wasn't much of a game.
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It's true. Chicken littles aside, a loss does command more discussion. Just human behavior. How long do you talk to someone about your good day as opposed to your bad one?
 
Reclamation Project said:
Guess it hurts when they realize Jeff Carter will line up against Brad ****ing Richards...
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or they counter Toews against the 70's line and.....

B Richards is matched against Kopitar.

it's a win-win either way. LA's depth at center is still unmatched in the West.

oh yeah, then we've got this over the hill bum that is overpaid at 3C in M Richards.

as an opposing team, choose your poison because it is likely going to be a slow and methodical death
 
With the hawks it might even out though, the Kings didn't have an answer for Kane games 4-7, Kane's line torched the Kings.

Kings came out on top, but Patrick Kane almost brought the Hawks over the finish line again.

I think the difference was Crawford, he had a really poor series. Similar to Quick in 2013. Also the Hawks D, wasn't exactly ironclad.
 
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OMGs, thank you to those who suggested a look at the Oiler thread for this game -- I stopped reading any posts and just looked at the gifs, and my wife was afraid she'd have to call county mental health, the way I was giggling...
 
If I was hired as the Oilers GM, my first phone call would be to Terry Murray. If Terry said "No", the next phone call would be Mark Morris.

Get that team to play a damn structure, and some Defense for crying out loud. Keep the damn puck out of your net.
 
damacles1156 said:
With the hawks it might even out though, the Kings didn't have an answer for Kane games 4-7, Kane's line torched the Kings.

Kings came out on top, but Patrick Kane almost brought the Hawks over the finish line again.

I think the difference was Crawford, he had a really poor series. Similar to Quick in 2013. Also the Hawks D, wasn't exactly ironclad.
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Yeah, I would say what the Kings have to worry about is the Hawks trying to match:

Saad - Shaw - Kane

against any line other than Kopitar's and against any d-pairing other than Muzzin-Doughty.

I did notice in Game 7 that Carter made it his mission to stick to Kane as closely as possible. While Carter is a fine skater in his own right, he doesn't have the agility of Kane.

Sutter will allow the Toews vs Kopitar matchup to occur at all times. It's when Chicago splits up Kane and Toews that we begin to have problems.
 
It's fairly obvious why the Kings couldn't stop the Saad-Shaw-Kane line... They scored 6 ES goals over the final 3 games and five of those came against the Kings fourth line. When you get a guy like Patrick Kane out there against defensive train wrecks then that is what's going to happen. It didn't matter what D pair was out there, when the forwards are dominated that badly pucks are going to end up in the net.

Sutter's refusal or inability to keep Clifford-Richards-Lewis off the ice against that line nearly cost the Kings a series they were well in control of. Take away that line matchup and the Kings pretty much dominated Chicago in that series.
 
Herby said:
It's fairly obvious why the Kings couldn't stop the Saad-Shaw-Kane line... They scored 6 ES goals over the final 3 games and five of those came against the Kings fourth line. When you get a guy like Patrick Kane out there against defensive train wrecks then that is going to happen.

Sutter's refusal or inability to keep Clifford-Richards-Lewis off the ice against that line nearly cost the Kings a series they were well in control of. Take away that line matchup and the Kings pretty much dominated Chicago in that series.
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When you have to play in Chicago, they are going to get that match-up sometimes.

It's unavoidable. Chicago blew what ? Leads in Five games ? in row ....I wouldn't exactly call that domination(by the Kings). The Kings had to win that series game seven in OT....What are you talking about Herby ?

If Crawford makes a couple more saves, or the Hawks D plays one more solid game....The Kings are golfing last year.


Now we are talking like the Hawks never had a chance ? WTF ? The Hawks are still the Kings equal in spades.
 
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damacles1156 said:
When you have to play in Chicago, they are going to get that match-up sometimes.

It's unavoidable.
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Well that is when you shorten your bench or don't send out the fourth line after stoppages. Again, it was a series the Kings were well in control of until that line was put together.
 
Herby said:
Well that is when you shorten your bench or don't send out the fourth line after stoppages. Again, it was a series the Kings were well in control of until that line was put together.
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The Kings had played already the max allowed games along with short off-season.....Minutes have to be spread, we have been over this.
 
damacles1156 said:
When you have to play in Chicago, they are going to get that match-up sometimes.

It's unavoidable. Chicago blew what ? Leads in Five games ? in row ....I wouldn't exactly call that domination(by the Kings). The Kings had to win that series game seven in OT....What are you talking about Herby ?

If Crawford makes a couple more saves, or the Hawks D plays one more solid game....The Kings are golfing last year
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The Kings were in control, they had a 3-1 series lead and had outscored Chicago 14-5 in the previous 7 periods before Chicago changed up their lines. When one line averages two goals a game, almost exclusively against one line, then that will sway the series, and that is what happened.
 
Herby said:
The Kings were in control, they had a 3-1 series lead and had outscored Chicago 14-5 in the previous 7 periods before Chicago changed up their lines. When one line averages two goals a game, almost exclusively against one line, then that will sway the series, and that is what happened.
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As Sutter say's "That's why a series, you play Seven games".

Unless you are saying the Kings are lucky to have beaten the Sharks...

I can't believe we are sitting here saying the Kings controlled a series, that went seven games, and needed OT do be decided.....WTF ?
 
damacles1156 said:
As Sutter say's "That's why a series, you play Seven games".

Unless you are saying the Kings are lucky to have beaten the Sharks...
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Nope. The Kings were unlucky to lose Game 3 and dominated from there.

I think the Kings were a better team than Chicago last year. Three lines clicking, better defense, better goaltending, hungrier lineup and I think it showed through in the first 4 games.

And I think it became a next goal wins series because the Kings couldn't or wouldn't avoid that matchup, the Hawks didn't get much from anyone else and still almost won. Credit to the Kings other three lines, because they really came through, especially in game 7 on the road.
 
Herby said:
Nope. The Kings were unlucky to lose Game 3 and dominated from there.

I think the Kings were a better team than Chicago last year. Three lines clicking, better defense, better goaltending, hungrier lineup and I think it showed through in the first 4 games.

And I think it became a next goal wins series because the Kings couldn't or wouldn't avoid that matchup, the Hawks didn't get much from anyone else and still almost won. Credit to the Kings other three lines, because they really came through, especially in game 7 on the road.
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That sounds more reasonable, it was starting to read like you were dismissive of Chicago entirely. Doesn't that say something about Chicago that one line (Kane's) pretty much almost won them that series.....Even after being down 3-1.

I think the Teams are equal, controlling a series in my mind is the Kings vs. Rangers. That's controlling a series. The Rangers had no chance, they were an inferior team. Lundy(the King) even played pretty poor for his standards.
 
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