GDT: Game #4: Edmonton Oilers vs Coyotes - 7:00pm (AZ) - BSAZ & 98.7FM - Is there a Mercy Rule??

[Arizonatah Coyetis]

It would be the most coyotes thing ever to go 0-82-0 and lose the lottery haha

Close... but Montreal also has win the draft lottery, while Carolina finishes first in league standings. THAT would be par for the course lol

 

[The Feckless Puck]

Buy tickets. Go to games. See this in person. Support the kids and Liam O’Brien when they draw in. (Hopefully sooner than later)

Hell no.

HELL no.

I wouldn't spend a dime to watch the team I've seen these first four games, no matter what the plan is for a rebuild.

Plus, I don't want to pay to see any game where I'd be forced to cheer for Nick Schmaltz. What a frigging albatross.

I wonder what Meruelo thinks of this team? He sure as shit isn't going to win anything with it this year.

BOHICA on Saturday.

 

[Neighborhood Coyote]

I'd like to see more of the players who will hit and fight.

Give the fans something to cheer for at least!

On one positive note: at least we weren't shut out 3 out of 4 games to start the season like we were under RT! And AT has a lot less on offense to work with. Lol

 

[moosemeister]

Close... but Montreal also has win the draft lottery, while Carolina finishes first in league standings. THAT would be par for the course lol

Hahaha fair. Montreal wins. Stanley cup final is Colorado and Carolina.

Blackhawks and Kings win the other two lotteries.

Coyotes pick 4, 31, 32.

 

[rt]

I think of all the bad players on this team, Nick Schmaltz is truly the worst.

 

[rt]

I thought Jaskin looked a lot better, at least.

 

[rt]

I was onboard with the tank but they went way too aggressive. Especially in goal. This is just too far.

 

[Arizonatah Coyetis]

If RT was still coaching this team...

"They're just not executing"

Edit: Anything to blame the team and not take any blame himself.

 

[JasonDemersWasOkay]

What’s the record for worst goal differential through the first 5 games of a season?

 

[Arizonatah Coyetis]

Hahaha fair. Montreal wins. Stanley cup final is Colorado and Carolina.

Blackhawks and Kings win the other two lotteries.

Coyotes pick 4, 31, 32.

Yes! I forgot about the COL pick

 

[Mosby]

If RT was still coaching this team...

"They're just not executing"

Edit: Anything to blame the team and not take any blame himself.

They're just uhhh you know uhhh not you know executing

 

[Bondurant]

Coyotes are the Lions of the NHL. I knew going in the results would be less than optimal but did not anticipate how bad it would be. Coyotes are skating lines of nothing but Jared Goff. Tanks are brutal. Cannot even give my tickets away for the games I cannot attend. Yikes.

 

[Matias Maccete]

I chose to watch Dune instead of this. 0 regrets. We need desert power damn it!

 

[Dirty Old Man]

Come on out and buy some tickets and support the team, especially everyone talking tank. See what you wanted up close and in person.

Beer helps, I'll be honest.

 

[Dirty Old Man]

@GiveAFlyingPuck That you???

Lol he's in the press box right? That was in 214, above me.

 

[Bondurant]

This joke of a nhl team will end up under 20 points.

As a sports fan i just hope the NHL can do anything against this tank shit.

There are so many cities who where proud to have a nhl team, no one deserves this.

Feel sorry for the fans and their hard earned money.

Would have been nice to know this was going to be the path before I secured tickets but I understand it. It is a calculated risk. Edmonton and Toronto, despite no Cups to show for it, underwent much needed facelifts because of tanking.

 

[TheLegend]

 

[Vinny Boombatz]

Our current team save pct% is .829, wacha wanna bet that we end the season south of .875?

 

[PainForShane]

Just got back / read through the thread. Glad this team still has fans... sort of?

Honestly though we played fine / well today, pretty even for the most part even though we still lost 5-1 (which is a ridiculous thing to say, but whatever). Again, this post is for people who can't the watch games on TV.

Overall:
1) Biggest surprise in my view is that Edmonton is actually a good TEAM. This narrative that Edmonton is just McD and Drai is completely wrong. Edmonton's third line (Foegele / Kassian) has some size, their fourth line of Perlini and Turris can skate as we already know, Nurse is a legitimate #1 defenseman which I had no idea about before tonight (plays big, no mistakes, not sure worth 9.5 per but easily 7 or 8m per year). And that's not even counting players like RNH, Hyman etc who are legitimate top-6 forwards and would be on any team.

The only time EDM got sustained high quality pressure at even strength was around the last 5 minutes or so of the 2nd period which incidentally didn't result in a goal. Hopefully having letdowns in the 2nd does not become a pattern for us.

Anyway, my point is that we skated mostly even with a team like this (who is also undefeated by the way), and that is better than what I expected, honestly. The 5-1 score is about what I expected, though, we are not good.

2) All of EDM's goals were started and / or finished by strong individual plays of which we had very few. First goal Foegele turns Mayo inside out (welcome to the league Mayo! more on him below), then a shortie from a partial break, McDavid had a crazy cutback move on goal 3 and then 2 more from the Edmonton power play (both through McD), not much to do there. Shots / chances were pretty even too, we were consistently getting high quality deflections all game even though none of them went in. If Jaskin hits that open net in the first and one or two of those deflections goes in it's a completely game.

Anyway EDM didn't dominate us today anywhere but on the scoreboard... and yes I realize that statement sounds ridiculous. But at 5 x 5 we traded chances mostly evenly, which in my view is all that any of us can reasonably expect.

Thoughts on individuals:
1) Ladd has easily been one of our better forwards in both home games so far -- he's driving the net, breaking up passes in the D-zone etc, just doing every single little thing out there. I'm not sure anyone anticipated this (I certainly didn't) but based on this, I have no problem at all with him wearing an A and playing 16-18 minutes a night in all situations. He is absolutely leading by example out there.

2) Vejmelka was not good today, what is most concerning is that his rebounds were consistently uncontrolled from every shot that wasn't routine. My guess is he's likely still getting used to the pace and quality of shot in this league (which would make sense). I did a deep dive on him prior to last game, he and Vanecek were basically the two top Czech goalies from since they were little kids, Vanecek was able to adjust so hopefully Vej does too. Either way Vej is probably still good enough as a stopgap until Prosvetov (or someone else) is ready, it's not like we need anyway to be good for another 3-5 years anyway.

3) It was Mayo's first game in the NHL (he took the place of Soderstrom), I literally had never heard of him before this game. At a top level, he seems like a stay at home D-man that's spent quite a few years in Tucson... and yet today he looked like a legitimate NHL top-4 defender (he was paired with Ghost which is a pairing that makes a lot of sense). Yes he got walked badly on that first goal but what I liked is that Tourigny put Ghost and Mayo right back out there immediately after allowing that first goal.

When Mayo scored in the 3rd, I was really happy for him, he played an excellent game especially considering it was his first ever game in the NHL. Would absolutely like to see more of him, if he keeps playing this well he absolutely should be in our lineup.

Anyway! Good night. See you Saturday against the Isles (ouch)

 

[sundance74]

Hahaha fair. Montreal wins. Stanley cup final is Colorado and Carolina.

Blackhawks and Kings win the other two lotteries.

Coyotes pick 4, 31, 32.

Hey we'd have the 4th and Kind of seven 2nd round picks! haha

 

[DOTS13]

Just got back / read through the thread. Glad this team still has fans... sort of?

Honestly though we played fine / well today, pretty even for the most part even though we still lost 5-1 (which is a ridiculous thing to say, but whatever). Again, this post is for people who can't the watch games on TV.

Overall:
1) Biggest surprise in my view is that Edmonton is actually a good TEAM. This narrative that Edmonton is just McD and Drai is completely wrong. Edmonton's third line (Foegele / Kassian) has some size, their fourth line of Perlini and Turris can skate as we already know, Nurse is a legitimate #1 defenseman which I had no idea about before tonight (plays big, no mistakes, not sure worth 9.5 per but easily 7 or 8m per year). And that's not even counting players like RNH, Hyman etc who are legitimate top-6 forwards and would be on any team.

The only time EDM got sustained high quality pressure at even strength was around the last 5 minutes or so of the 2nd period which incidentally didn't result in a goal. Hopefully having letdowns in the 2nd does not become a pattern for us.

Anyway, my point is that we skated mostly even with a team like this (who is also undefeated by the way), and that is better than what I expected, honestly. The 5-1 score is about what I expected, though, we are not good.

2) All of EDM's goals were started and / or finished by strong individual plays of which we had very few. First goal Foegele turns Mayo inside out (welcome to the league Mayo! more on him below), then a shortie from a partial break, McDavid had a crazy cutback move on goal 3 and then 2 more from the Edmonton power play (both through McD), not much to do there. Shots / chances were pretty even too, we were consistently getting high quality deflections all game even though none of them went in. If Jaskin hits that open net in the first and one or two of those deflections goes in it's a completely game.

Anyway EDM didn't dominate us today anywhere but on the scoreboard... and yes I realize that statement sounds ridiculous. But at 5 x 5 we traded chances mostly evenly, which in my view is all that any of us can reasonably expect.

Thoughts on individuals:
1) Ladd has easily been one of our better forwards in both home games so far -- he's driving the net, breaking up passes in the D-zone etc, just doing every single little thing out there. I'm not sure anyone anticipated this (I certainly didn't) but based on this, I have no problem at all with him wearing an A and playing 16-18 minutes a night in all situations. He is absolutely leading by example out there.

2) Vejmelka was not good today, what is most concerning is that his rebounds were consistently uncontrolled from every shot that wasn't routine. My guess is he's likely still getting used to the pace and quality of shot in this league (which would make sense). I did a deep dive on him prior to last game, he and Vanecek were basically the two top Czech goalies from since they were little kids, Vanecek was able to adjust so hopefully Vej does too. Either way Vej is probably still good enough as a stopgap until Prosvetov (or someone else) is ready, it's not like we need anyway to be good for another 3-5 years anyway.

3) It was Mayo's first game in the NHL (he took the place of Soderstrom), I literally had never heard of him before this game. At a top level, he seems like a stay at home D-man that's spent quite a few years in Tucson... and yet today he looked like a legitimate NHL top-4 defender (he was paired with Ghost which is a pairing that makes a lot of sense). Yes he got walked badly on that first goal but what I liked is that Tourigny put Ghost and Mayo right back out there immediately after allowing that first goal.

When Mayo scored in the 3rd, I was really happy for him, he played an excellent game especially considering it was his first ever game in the NHL. Would absolutely like to see more of him, if he keeps playing this well he absolutely should be in our lineup.

Anyway! Good night. See you Saturday against the Isles (ouch)

Thanks for the good post!

 

[hayen]

I'm giving Ghost an atta boy. Team loses 5-1 and he ends up with +1. That's not easy to do.

 

[87turbobuick]

Kassian is such a Neanderthal idiot.

We could use more players like Kassian, neither of his penalties were proper calls. Ghost faked a head shot and Kassian pushed a guy with his stick and got a 10 because the ref was scared that he was going to go after Larsson who hit Turris. The coach does not play Roussel, instead we get a lineup full of soft perimeter players. Fischer on the power play tells me this coach is in over his head. When you have no talent you have to play the trap like the Devils used to play. With the team in full tank mode you might as well load up the roster with tough guys and entertain me with hitting and fights. I have probably watched %95 of all Coyote broadcast games since they moved here but this is terrible and if it continues I will not watch. I have endured enough since Tippett left. Even Nash who I like is getting on my nerves with his fake optimism.

 

[Jakey53]

Waive Ladd, Roussel, Eriksson every 30 days so they can go down on paper without any issues. Put Roadrunners in the lineup if guys don't want to play.

Exactly. These players will probably never play another season in the NHL, so just find kids that have been waived from other teams, or bring up a couple from Tucson. The three you mentioned aren't the only ones.

 

[Jakey53]

Feel sorry for the past 20 years we've endured, not for our way out of it.

Who said this is our way out of it. All these picks sure in hell will not guarantee success going forward. This is the second year we picked up shit UFA's and next year will be the same. I'm sure BA can find kids that have been waived from other teams instead of these dead beats. At least we could cheer for some under dog kid instead of these over the hill washed up vets.