GDT: Game 36: Red Wings vs caps 5:00 pm et 12/29/24

mikerooooose

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I can only think Lalonde was trying to coach something that didn't translate to hockey players.

Like too complex, too nuanced, too different or something.

It's just one game, but they looked totally different today.

Outshot the opponent most of the game too. Can't remember the last time that has happened — and was the most telling to me that Lalonde was terrible. Getting outshoot 2:1 (or more) was typical, not an exaggeration.
 

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I can only think Lalonde was trying to coach something that didn't translate to hockey players.

Like too complex, too nuanced, too different or something.

It's just one game, but they looked totally different today.

Outshot the opponent most of the game too. Can't remember the last time that has happened — and was the most telling to me that Lalonde was terrible. Getting outshoot 2:1 (or more) was typical, not an exaggeration.
Yeah that's just a severe mismatch. Newsy might take another team to the Cup some day, but he couldn't take THIS team to a 3 game win streak.
 

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I can only think Lalonde was trying to coach something that didn't translate to hockey players.

Like too complex, too nuanced, too different or something.

It's just one game, but they looked totally different today.

Outshot the opponent most of the game too. Can't remember the last time that has happened — and was the most telling to me that Lalonde was terrible. Getting outshoot 2:1 (or more) was typical, not an exaggeration.

My oversimplified view is it seems like Lalonde's intention was to reduce the Goals Against and in doing so he completely neutered the offense so it made it even harder to defend.
 

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I'm getting ready for my move so I skipped this game. Seems like a realgud first period then meh.

I am indescribably envious of T-Mac's hair.
He's got too much hair, that preceding hairline makes his forehead look small, lol.

Did T-Mac just walk into practice and say "what if we tried scoring goals?" and the rest of the team went "whaaaa....?"
Probably told them to shoot the f'ing puck.

dangerous take-down of Kasper close to the boards, this team really needs a face-puncher
Elmer will next season.

5 shots on goal and only 1 after 10 min.
Veleno 5 points last 7 games.
4 goals in 1st period 1st time this season.
Real nice pass on that assist, full awareness of where Ray was. That's a huge improvement over just sending it back to the point like Copp/Raz/Compher/Fischer, etc.

So did Washington win the Vrana trade for Mantha now?
Already mentioned but Buch and Cossa. Fact of the matter is, both players went UFA so it was a rather inconsequential trade as far as those 2 players are concerned. Red Wings got 2 picks so that's the difference.

Everytime I see Tarasenko out on the ice I get Dan Cleary flashbacks. Can't remember anybody else who's worn that number in the last 10+ yrs
WUT!?!?! His current play is on this level:

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Why don't we bring up Soderblom? He had a nice fight the other night in GR. Put him on the 4th line
In due time. Winning one fight isn't enough. Let him get some more experience fighting in the AHL. They can send Motte down near the end of the season to bring Mazur or Elmer up.

funny thing is that is not us playing good hockey it is Washington being very bad.
B2B for them

damn, seider's played almost half the game so far. larkin with almost 16 minutes
Final tally is 21 for DBoss, 25 for Seider. Ed probably would have gotten more if he didn't look a bit shaky last game.
 

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Yeah that's just a severe mismatch. Newsy might take another team to the Cup some day, but he couldn't take THIS team to a 3 game win streak.
Calder Cup maybe. I doubt he gets another head coaching job.

I'm getting the feeling that he micromanaged players too much and stifled all creativity and offensive output. Those kind of coaches don't get a second chance. Adam Oates almost ruined Holtby by micromanaging how to play goalie. Oates never got a second chance.
 

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Calder Cup maybe. I doubt he gets another head coaching job.

I'm getting the feeling that he micromanaged players too much and stifled all creativity and offensive output. Those kind of coaches don't get a second chance. Adam Oates almost ruined Holtby by micromanaging how to play goalie. Oates never got a second chance.

I believe Oates was the head coach of NJ after.
 

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Didn't like how they sat back at times but that 1st period was a shot of endorphins. They find some consistency in that effort and the season is a much better product to watch.
 

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I'm getting ready for my move so I skipped this game. Seems like a realgud first period then meh.


He's got too much hair, that preceding hairline makes his forehead look small, lol.


Probably told them to shoot the f'ing puck.


Elmer will next season.


Real nice pass on that assist, full awareness of where Ray was. That's a huge improvement over just sending it back to the point like Copp/Raz/Compher/Fischer, etc.


Already mentioned but Buch and Cossa. Fact of the matter is, both players went UFA so it was a rather inconsequential trade as far as those 2 players are concerned. Red Wings got 2 picks so that's the difference.


WUT!?!?! His current play is on this level:

Zadina-19-scaled.jpg




In due time. Winning one fight isn't enough. Let him get some more experience fighting in the AHL. They can send Motte down near the end of the season to bring Mazur or Elmer up.


B2B for them


Final tally is 21 for DBoss, 25 for Seider. Ed probably would have gotten more if he didn't look a bit shaky last game.
Ed would have had another couple min but he has the delay of game penalty and then the soft late penalty. Probably would have been around 24 otherwise.
 
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Didn't like how they sat back at times but that 1st period was a shot of endorphins. They find some consistency in that effort and the season is a much better product to watch.

Based on what I saw in the 3rd there's still some running around in their own end for sure. It's gonna take a bit to clean that up.

But the puck support, zone exits and offensive zone possession all looked better.
 

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Dboss with the 15 games no goals now, damn. Not that he is looking mega trash or anything but still.
He ALMOST scored in the third...

He needs a goal bad now. He's not looking like trash but sheesh at some point it's more than just a few games... etc. I'm a supporter of his for sure but sheesh. It's got to be in his head a little at this point too.
 

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I just seen the third period so tbh it was alot of the same for me but I'm always happy they win. I didn't get to see all the goal scoring. My fault though for tuning out.
First was fun to watch.
As to the third, they were holding the lead against a team that is really really good in the third and needed to score. Difference was they were actually spending time in the O zone and trying to score, so the Caps couldn't cheat for offense quite as much as the old turtle shell would have allowed.
 

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I'm getting ready for my move so I skipped this game. Seems like a realgud first period then meh.


He's got too much hair, that preceding hairline makes his forehead look small, lol.


Probably told them to shoot the f'ing puck.


Elmer will next season.


Real nice pass on that assist, full awareness of where Ray was. That's a huge improvement over just sending it back to the point like Copp/Raz/Compher/Fischer, etc.


Already mentioned but Buch and Cossa. Fact of the matter is, both players went UFA so it was a rather inconsequential trade as far as those 2 players are concerned. Red Wings got 2 picks so that's the difference.


WUT!?!?! His current play is on this level:

Zadina-19-scaled.jpg




In due time. Winning one fight isn't enough. Let him get some more experience fighting in the AHL. They can send Motte down near the end of the season to bring Mazur or Elmer up.


B2B for them


Final tally is 21 for DBoss, 25 for Seider. Ed probably would have gotten more if he didn't look a bit shaky last game.
Veleno has 5 points in 7 games. In addition he hit the post on the inside in the game vs the blues. It was the closest we got in the game where we didn't score any and obviously got shutout.
I am glad the new coach recognised this.

Tarasenko had 2 good plays in 3rd, getting the puck out of the zone and blocking the shot.
 

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I think Todd understands that he doesn't have the dmen to straight trap here at the moment. I love Ed/Seider together but it meant you played the other 35 minutes with no dmen that could complete a consistent breakout pass or play with higher panic threshold.

If you split up Ed/Seider and play a heavy pressure/ forecheck system for the forwards you have a better overall defensive and offensive setup for this group.

I think we saw that today. Even at the end we still had 2 forwards up pressuring the Wash breakouts. This team is too small and too weak at D to just let teams easily enter our zone.

Seider is about to pop off. We are about to see the creativity and physicality of his rookie year with 3 years experience.
 

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Okay: nice work with the line:

Veleno-Larkin-Raymond
DeBrincat-Copp-Kane
Berggren-Compher-Tarasenko
Rasmussen-Kasper-Motte

Chiarot-Seider
Edvinsson-Petry
Gustafsson-Holl

The 2nd line looked solid? Kasper feels wasted where he is, and I'm completely cover Tarasenko. Rasmussen has more value as a trade piece. Complete the deal that ships him out to BUF or CGY or whatever. Give me:

Veleno - Larkin - Raymond
Debrincat - Copp - Kane
Berggren - Kasper - Compher
Fisher - Motte - Watson
 

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