GDT: Game #31 | Florida Panthers @ Detroit Red Wings | 7:00 PM EST | FS-D+ ‎ ‎

[AD1066]

Listen to yourself. LISTEN to yourself.

The better Cleary does, the better this team does. Why does everyone want Cleary gone. Because he sucks, right? He doesn't score goals. He falls over. He can't make a pass.

I'm rooting for him to not suck. Because a Dan Cleary that sucks is no good for this team.

But you are actually worried that he might be getting better. What kind of a fan are you?

I suppose I'm a fan who wants whats best for the team moving forward. And Cleary being passable enough to avoid being shown the door is at odds with the long-term success of the team.

It is inexcusable that Nyquist and Tatar haven't been in the lineup since opening night. And Cleary is part of the reason why.

 

[FlashyG]

If we were a healthy team. How would this lineup look?

Zetterberg - Datsyuk - Alfredsson
Nyquist - Franzen - Tatar
Bertuzzi - Weiss - Abdelkader
Andersson - Helm - Miller

Helm has played way too well to be put on the 4th line.

I'd prefer something like this.

Zetterberg - Datsyuk - Bertuzzi
Franzen - Helm - Tatar
Nyquist - Weiss - Alfredsson
Miller - Andersson - Abdelkader

If Weiss ever regains his confidence and form he showed with Florida I'd flip him and Helm. I think that gives us 3 good scoring lines and a more effective checking line.

 

[TatarTangle]

No, we all know Cleary will make a difference. He's the only one who thinks DFC will make a positive difference for the Wings

I, for one, think DFC could make a positive difference for chicken wings

 

[CanadaIsIrrelevant]

Decent. But IMO, we're a better team with Z and Pavel split.

Just swap Franzen and Zetterberg

 

[SoupGuru]

No, we all know Cleary will make a difference. He's the only one who thinks DFC will make a positive difference for the Wings

I never said I thought he would make a positive difference. I'm just saying HE FINALLY MADE A POSITIVE DIFFERENCE and we should all be happy he finally contributed. But no. Some fans would be happier if he never helped his team out.

 

[theYman]

Yuck at Cleary scoring, but glad we're winning.

Timmy's helmet looks weird lol

Well you know now he'll be bumped up to top 6 for sure.

 

[theYman]

What the hell was that?? Whistle before the puck?

 

[KJoe88]

I never said I thought he would make a positive difference. I'm just saying HE FINALLY MADE A POSITIVE DIFFERENCE and we should all be happy he finally contributed. But no. Some fans would be happier if he never helped his team out.

The thing is with Cleary, if he does ONE thing right, he'll get rewarded with more ice time. That ONE goal by him today could possibly make Babcock think, "Hey, he's sucked all year, but maybe since he scored I should promote him!"

At least that's how I look at it. It's possible that his one positive thing out does all the negative he's done all year.

 

[crashman]

We get it dude. You are the only one that thinks Dan Cleary can make a difference. It's ad nauseum. Enough is enough.

With all the CONSTANT negativity surrounding Cleary, I don't see anything with someone trying to even the scales. I think Cleary's a bum too, but there's nothing wrong with what Soup said.

 

[mindfly]

How many times have the wings been robbed with the whistle..or even intent to whistle.. but this time of course the goal counts......

 

[SoupGuru]

That was a slick play by Smith.

 

[TatarTangle]

No. Enough is enough of the whining about Cleary. it is fine to not like him, but it is unacceptable as a fan to wish one our players DIDN'T score a goal. That is not a fan.

Incorrect. As an American (sorry, my friendly neighbours to the north), I can root for my team anyway I damn well please. Doesn't make me any more or less passionate for my team then the next person.

And this is what this GDT thread -which other "fans" of different teams can come read- has become; some fickle argument over what constitutes being a "fan"

Whatever, Monster let in a goal. What a flipping bum.

 

[sarcastro]

Classic stupid Bert right there.

 

[aar000n]

Flop?

 

[joe89]

Kinda stupid penalty but like the emotion from Bert anyway

 

[Konnan511]

Almost the wrong type of Nyquist explosion. You could Bertuzzi was mad at the hit by laying out a couple guys.

 

[KJoe88]

Bull**** hit on Nyquist.

 

[ProPAIN]

Team on a back to back + without top 3 C's (including best two players on the team) + making dumb mistakes in their own zone = absolutely brutal to watch.

 

[aar000n]

How many times have the wings been robbed with the whistle..or even intent to whistle.. but this time of course the goal counts......

I agree

 

[js10]

Does anyone what caused that Tatar has least time on ice? Does excelling on ice get rewarded with less playing time?? (I must have missed something here)

 

[SoupGuru]

Kinda stupid penalty but like the emotion from Bert anyway

Yeah, it's about time someone lit a fire under his ass.

 

[sarcastro]

I know he's the flavor of the month, but the puck seems to go right through Gustavsson. Or he has no idea where it is. Has happened at least a half dozen times already in this one.

 

[TatarTangle]

Weiss should have just picked a new number. Going with 90 is still too close to Gordie's number. I think that's the problem.

 

[LarKing]

How the **** did Kindl miss that?

 

[SoupGuru]

Jesus, Kindl. Cleary could have put that in.