GDT: Game 3: Red Wings at rags 7:00 pm et 10/14/24

RRhoads

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Didn't watch all of the third period, but I think we looked pretty good against a good team. Kasper would have given us a better chance to win, in my opinion.

Some of the issues in the defensive zone from last year still linger, and it causes so much unnecessary D-zone time. Whipping the puck along the board to an opponent is getting really old. They do it so often, I am starting to believe it is by choice.

I think Edvinsson should be on the second PP unit.
 

Oddbob

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Berggren, like Hudler before him, is at his core a playmaking catalyst. If you stick him with talent, he has the ability to make a line better. But there needs to be a base level of offensive inclination in his linemates. He's not a "f*** it, I'll do it myself" offensive player. Not at the NHL level. So if you stick him on a line opposite Motte, there really isn't anything he can do with that. It's telling that some of the best chances he's had so far is with Edvinsson. Because Edvinsson knows that with Berggren on the ice if he jumps up, he'll get the puck.

This is just excuses. Good offensive players can produce regardless who they play with.
 
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Gniwder

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It's really hard to take Fester's evaluations of goalies seriously when he can't even evaluate his own goalies.

Just start Talbot, and if he starts shitting the bed then go into tank mode. Just go all in on Cam, it's obvious Lyon and Husso aren't NHL starters.

I missed the game, but I'm glad I did.
 

jfrank21

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Berggren, like Hudler before him, is at his core a playmaking catalyst. If you stick him with talent, he has the ability to make a line better. But there needs to be a base level of offensive inclination in his linemates. He's not a "f*** it, I'll do it myself" offensive player. Not at the NHL level. So if you stick him on a line opposite Motte, there really isn't anything he can do with that. It's telling that some of the best chances he's had so far is with Edvinsson. Because Edvinsson knows that with Berggren on the ice if he jumps up, he'll get the puck.
And like Hudler before him, Berggren is getting the Babcock treatment from Newsy. Sticking him with players who are not anywhere near his offensive iq and creativity, so hes not getting points. And since hes not getting points, casuals think he sux. Its ridiculous, why not try him with Raymond and like Compher. Then maybe Larkin Tank and Cat. Maybe Copp, Kane and Ras...let Kane bounce a couple in off Copp, Abby style...but no, this is much too difficult for a multi million dollar coach to devise and practice with once or twice.
 
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jfrank21

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This is just excuses. Good offensive players can produce regardless who they play with.
Not when you are a gifted offensive catalyst, then your game only shines with other talented, creative players. That sort of thing is non existant in players like Copp and Ras, they get their goals and points from grinding, not offensive iq and skill.
 

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Pretty good game.

Finally the Top6 lines were working, best games from them. The trend is clearly upwards.

Just unbelieveable game from Shesterkin. You can't ask more for those scoring chances against him.

This team is going on to right direction.
 

Oddbob

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Not when you are a gifted offensive catalyst, then your game only shines with other talented, creative players. That sort of thing is non existant in players like Copp and Ras, they get their goals and points from grinding, not offensive iq and skill.

If he is so good produce and force your way up the lineup. Point is, that he isn't good enough to force his way up the lineup.
 

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And like Hudler before him, Berggren is getting the Babcock treatment from Newsy. Sticking him with players who are not anywhere near his offensive iq and creativity, so hes not getting points. And since hes not getting points, casuals think he sux. Its ridiculous, why not try him with Raymond and like Compher. Then maybe Larkin Tank and Cat. Maybe Copp, Kane and Ras...let Kane bounce a couple in off Copp, Abby style...but no, this is much too difficult for a multi million dollar coach to devise and practice with once or twice.
So we need to play preferred minutes to NHL struggle bus Burgers over the greatest U.S. born hockey player and this will help us?

Berggren crowd he needs to play better for more opportunities. I think he helped himself a little last night when he wasn’t being sent down to the ice and getting bounced around. Problem is as you move up the lineup against better defenders they are better at precisely what is being done to him. He doesn’t deserve top 6 minutes right now, good news is he also doesn’t deserve to be benched like he did last year at this point either.
 

JediOrderPizza

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Yeah they played Ok. My worry which is the same as last season, the wingers not named Raymond can look invisible without Larkin. But they all cannot play with Larkin.
 

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