GDT: Game 3: Columbus vs. Chicago 10/21 7PM

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I don't think the disillusionment is due to losing. I think there is a significant perception issue when Matt is put in place of Boone.

Last year our top line was Cam, Dubie, Boone. And that was a very productive line. Boone with 31 goals. Cam with 28, Dubie 15. That is a legit top line. A second line of Saad with 30 goals, Wennie the Poo and the the imaginary Bjork scoring 20 is a legit second line. Foligno and Hartnell on the third line? Not bad at all.

But Boone, Dubie and Hartnell have been horrible so far. So when you replace Boone's 30 goals with Calvert's and his 12 goals, your legit first line suddenly becomes a third line. That to me is a very disturbing optical problem. We really do look like an expansion team with that kind of lineup where our first line is really a third line. The bad start by Dubie and Boone is very, very distressing. WE need Boone to be a 30 goal scorer.

1. I think you were closer to the truth in calling it an "optical problem". It's the same players on different lines.

2. Once again, it's not a first line, with Jenner or with Calvert. That's an optical issue. The top scoring line is going to be the one with Saad and Wennberg on it.

3. Boone-Dubi-Cam was effective offensively but that was more than outweighed by their defensive issues (I'm not just talking about this year, look at their GA/60 together last year). Those were all good defensive players before coming together so of course they should be split up.

4. Calvert-Dubi-Cam is just a better line. They have more minutes together than any Jackets trio, and they work.

5. Switching from 30-15-28 goals to 12-15-28 goals does not make it go from a 1st line to a 3rd line. That's still 56 goals. How many lines around the league have 56 goals? Not nearly enough for every team to have 2. I don't have numbers by line but if the average goals per player on a line is 19, and there are only 100 forwards in the league who hit 19 goals, then it's clearly a second line and not a bad one.
 

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Having reviewed all the comments so far, it is true that we have a very mediocre looking lineup.


Where has all the talent gone, long time passing? Where has all the talent gone, long time ago? ....

When will we ever learn........when will we ever.......
 

Forepar

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Will NEVER learn.

Back from self-imposed sabbatical. A little earlier than planned, but the thinly-veiled references to music of my childhood/early teens made it irresistible.

Not much to add... Just PLAY the GAME.
Damnit, first week of season should have been joyful.
Have been waiting for hockey for 6 months. But it was not a joyful first week, and the 5 days off only added to the ennui. Saturday night NWA was a morgue - I'm a Buckeye fan too, but was at NWA and doggone that was weak. They actually played ok Saturday for last 2 periods, just need rewarded.

Hit re-set button. Week 2 is all of tonight and tomorrow night - think of it as a nice short workweek. Play aggressive hockey, have fun with your linemates/d-pair (especially the atkinvert line, man they each individually need to SMILE, they look and have played like Foligno early last year - weight of the world on their shoulders). Move the puck, don't make Bob stand on his head too much, and see if that gets 3 out of 4 points the next 2 nights. Regardless, take an Advil on Sunday morning, find yourself in sunny California and start WEEK 3!

Not expecting anything - not greatness but not suck either. Bring on a regular diet of hockey, let the development begin...TONIGHT!
 

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I don't think I can ever remember a Peter, Paul & Mary
drop on our board......
 

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I get the distinct feeling that this season will be another "lose a ton in the beginning, swear we learned our lesson, and come up short for the rest of the stretch trying to make up for the early sucktitude" season. Again. This team on paper just doesn't look to match up at all. The good teams don't make the mistake of "playing down" that we used to make. Good thing we don't have to worry about that this year XD
 

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Sedlak to Saad there. Great pass.

Other than the bad luck penalties the boys have been good.

Edit: and great breakaway pass from Savard. Not sure if intentional.
 

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Our first away game

Was thinking the same thing.

I'm am awfully hard on this team but Matt Calvert is someone I can never hate. Guy gives it his all every shift, may not be a 20 goal scorer but he helps the team so much... love when his legs get going.

Can someone also explain why Gagner isn't playing? Jw, I'm happy to see Sedlak draw in though.
 

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F***.

I really don't know what to say. For the first time ever a prospect that is supposed to be "elite"is actually showing signs of it for the Jackets. Dont wanna say too much, get my hopes up, then have him not pan out.. let's hit the breaks a little bit, but wow.
 

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F***.

I really don't know what to say. For the first time ever a prospect that is supposed to be "elite"is actually showing signs of it for the Jackets. Dont wanna say too much, get my hopes up, then have him not pan out.. let's hit the breaks a little bit, but wow.

He wasn't supposed to be elite. He was a project with a high upside.
 

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That shot by Werenski reminded me of Nick Lidström. Just a well-placed and well-timed wrister to the top corner. Absolutely beautiful.
 

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Normally I'd subtract secondary assists on the powerplay - Nick Foligno sure gets a lot of those. But the guy drew the penalty and then did the perfect screen. The guy has been great this year.
 

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That shot by Werenski reminded me of Nick Lidström. Just a well-placed and well-timed wrister to the top corner. Absolutely beautiful.

The best part: Zero release, zero wind-up. How are you supposed to block that? You have no idea when he's going to shoot.
 

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