GDT: Game 3: Columbus vs. Chicago 10/21 7PM
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The Jones Zone
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He's got too much money invested in his dental work post hockey
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Bobcat110
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We'll be flat due to the long layoff....2-0 Hawks at 1st intermission...then we'll come back to make it interesting before losing in final 2 minutes 5-3
No.
Nobody should read into the ordering of the lines. That goes for 1, 2, 3, and 4.
Skinnyjimmy08
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if CBJ is gonna suck again tonight, I hope atleast Dub snaps on someone
I was looking forward to this team this season but I have been so damn disappointed, its been ridiculous
I was looking forward to this team this season but I have been so damn disappointed, its been ridiculous
Johansen2Foligno
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This game is going to be interesting. The Hawks don't have a deep group of scorers by any means. We've got last change. If we get a couple competent shutdown groups and Torts matches them we've got a good chance to keep the Hawks' scoring down to a couple goals. I'm not predicting it, just saying that theoretically it shouldn't be that hard.
The "Atkinverts", as you call them, played well together over multiple seasons.
And just so you know, the cutoff between a topline wing and a second liner is about 51 pts, and the cutoff between second and third is about 35 pts (assuming there are 90 first liners, 90 second liners, etc...). And the Jackets have a few guys at the first line cusp and 7 players total at a top 6 level of scoring.
I think it's fair to say we have a bunch of second lines.
I agree - I attribute a lot of that to Keith, Seabrook, and Hjalmarsson playing more than 70 of the 120 D minutes - there is a lot of continuity just in those three.
The "Atkinverts", as you call them, played well together over multiple seasons.
And just so you know, the cutoff between a topline wing and a second liner is about 51 pts, and the cutoff between second and third is about 35 pts (assuming there are 90 first liners, 90 second liners, etc...). And the Jackets have a few guys at the first line cusp and 7 players total at a top 6 level of scoring.
I think it's fair to say we have a bunch of second lines.
I agree - I attribute a lot of that to Keith, Seabrook, and Hjalmarsson playing more than 70 of the 120 D minutes - there is a lot of continuity just in those three.
It's kind of hard for him to do that when he can't find someone who's been worse than himself.
ReggieRed
Good job. Good work. Good goal next!
I was on a plane today coming back from the west coast. Connecting flight was through Chicago...LOTS of Blackhawk fans on the flight heading to the game tonight.
Dr. Fire
What, me worry?
Skinnyjimmy08
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It's been all of two games
haha I know.. and that's whats weird....
usually with teams I look forward to watching, its fun to watch.. but these games I started watching, I was bored outta my mind within 5 mins. I really hope CBJ comes out flying tonight. I have real high hopes for Jenner and Bjorkstrand this season
Having reviewed all the comments so far, it is true that we have a very mediocre looking lineup.
Where has all the talent gone, long time passing? Where has all the talent gone, long time ago? ....
Where has all the talent gone, long time passing? Where has all the talent gone, long time ago? ....
Johansen2Foligno
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Big night for our defense. A couple of points and shutting down a few lines.
That being said, our Forwards are...so meh. Not a single line has consistent offense throughout. Closest is Saad-Wennburg-Foligno but tricky Nicky bogs down the line.
That being said, our Forwards are...so meh. Not a single line has consistent offense throughout. Closest is Saad-Wennburg-Foligno but tricky Nicky bogs down the line.
The way Nick has been playing he could top 40 assists.
Either way, he's the type of guy, who despite a lack of scoring talent, would be welcome on most team's top lines because of his talent for driving the play forward. Chicago would love to have him next to Toews.
I wouldn't be surprised if Saad and Wennberg hit 60 pts this year, and Foligno a bit less. It would be a top line in the sense that there wouldn't be 30 lines in the league better than them. Of course there would be 15 better than them, so it wouldn't be the strength of the club.
Torts said he's putting Werenski with Savard to better limit his minutes. But I think it's somewhat euphemistic, and that Torts just sees whats coming with Chicago and wants Murray and Jones together to play a shutdown role.
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That was a weird game. Chi went up 4-0 only to have Phi claw back to make it 4-4. I think Chi got their last 3 goals (1 was EN) in last 6 minutes. I think Provab (SP) went - 5 fo Philly. We'll get the Werenski comparable tonight. From what I saw we made the right call.
I don't think the disillusionment is due to losing. I think there is a significant perception issue when Matt is put in place of Boone.
Last year our top line was Cam, Dubie, Boone. And that was a very productive line. Boone with 31 goals. Cam with 28, Dubie 15. That is a legit top line. A second line of Saad with 30 goals, Wennie the Poo and the the imaginary Bjork scoring 20 is a legit second line. Foligno and Hartnell on the third line? Not bad at all.
But Boone, Dubie and Hartnell have been horrible so far. So when you replace Boone's 30 goals with Calvert's and his 12 goals, your legit first line suddenly becomes a third line. That to me is a very disturbing optical problem. We really do look like an expansion team with that kind of lineup where our first line is really a third line. The bad start by Dubie and Boone is very, very distressing. WE need Boone to be a 30 goal scorer.
Last year our top line was Cam, Dubie, Boone. And that was a very productive line. Boone with 31 goals. Cam with 28, Dubie 15. That is a legit top line. A second line of Saad with 30 goals, Wennie the Poo and the the imaginary Bjork scoring 20 is a legit second line. Foligno and Hartnell on the third line? Not bad at all.
But Boone, Dubie and Hartnell have been horrible so far. So when you replace Boone's 30 goals with Calvert's and his 12 goals, your legit first line suddenly becomes a third line. That to me is a very disturbing optical problem. We really do look like an expansion team with that kind of lineup where our first line is really a third line. The bad start by Dubie and Boone is very, very distressing. WE need Boone to be a 30 goal scorer.
Provorov. How did you end up with Provab? Personally I wanted to call him Provo-cop because he is like a machine. We made the right call having Werenski ranked 4th that draft, ahead of Provorov? It sure looks that way now.
I was expecting we'd get the Werenski comparable tonight but it looks like Torts doesn't want him on the top pair against Chicago. So it's not going to be a direct comparison with Provorov - who had to go top pair against them alongside Streit.
Inquiring Minds
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I was on a plane today coming back from the west coast. Connecting flight was through Chicago...LOTS of Blackhawk fans on the flight heading to the game tonight.
In 15 years as a STH, the thing I hated most was when Pitts, Chicago or Detroit fans would flood in and take over NWA. One year, all three of those fan-bases made the game an away game for us, and the CBJ laid a big steaming pile on the ice.
It's one thing when your team can't compete in the league. It's another level of suck-dom when your opponents' fans come in and humiliate the home fans.
