GDT: Game 12: Columbus Blue Jackets vs. Edmonton Oilers |2/10 6PM EST FSO| ‎

[Nikita Filatov]

I really feel like Murray would've helped a lot and even seen a good amount of minutes if he wasn't injured and in training camp. Some of our defense looks pretty brutal in our own zone.

 

[CBJx614]

I really feel like Murray would've helped a lot and even seen a good amount of minutes if he wasn't injured and in training camp. Some of our defense looks pretty brutal in our own zone.

Or Galchenyuk who has more points than any forward on our team..

 

[bizzz*]

I mean... What's wrong with you, people of Columbus? The team held opposition to 13 shots and you come here to complain about defense? Am-fkng-azing.

 

[NotWendell]

i disagree with both of you and I have no idea what's excellent about that post. .
JJ looked out of pace a few times , but overall him and Nikitin had a good game. They killed like a 100 Edmonton rushes and all what you've noticed is a couple of unperfect moves.
Nikitin is slow? Which Nikitin you've been watching for the past couple years? He's never been a good skater. And never will be. But he always make right plays at the right time. He might not execute them perfectly, but he knows what he is doing on the ice for 25 minutes.
And Johnson was just a victim of Wiz's shape. Also I have no idea what you were thinking of him, but he was playing a decent game. That one-timer was hard to execute as well, you could see it.

The problem was EVERYONE who's ever played the game at any level knows that should have been a quick wrist shot. Nikitin was indeed slower than usual tonight. All that said, despite Wiz's two boneheaded plays, the defense didn't lose the game tonight. The odds of winning an NHL hockey game 1-0 are slim.

 

[CBJHerd]

The problem was EVERYONE who's ever played the game at any level knows that should have been a quick wrist shot. Nikitin was indeed slower than usual tonight. All that said, despite Wiz's two boneheaded plays, the defense didn't lose the game tonight. The odds of winning an NHL hockey game 1-0 are slim.

The Johnson slapshot had me screaming at the tv.. not because of the bad decision but bill saying if he was right handed that would of went in... No if he wouldn't of reached back to slap it, it would of went in

 

[bizzz*]

The problem was EVERYONE who's ever played the game at any level knows that should have been a quick wrist shot. Nikitin was indeed slower than usual tonight. All that said, despite Wiz's two boneheaded plays, the defense didn't lose the game tonight. The odds of winning an NHL hockey game 1-0 are slim.

You guys need 4 Lidstroms and Weber-Suter as a bottom pair to be satisfied. And in my opinion if this Nikitin is slow for you then you better start the "trade him while he has value" campaign.

 

[Robert]

I watched most of the game.... holding the score down was a good sign but in the end it was a tough loss..

JD must be thinking about something.... quitting is not an option.

 

[Paisano*]

Hey, I know how to solve our scoring problems.....lets trade our best player, maybe we can get 2-3 good players for him so we can get consistent scoring across the board........:

 

[Robert]

Hey, I know how to solve our scoring problems.....lets trade our best player, maybe we can get 2-3 good players for him so we can get consistent scoring across the board........:

Funny....

You do know that Rick Nash is currently ranked 138th in the league for scoring right??? Hardly a super star on an average New York Ranger team...

 

[EDM]

JBum, seriously, don't go there.

 

[Asher]

RNH=Scott Gomez . Last time he scored a goal on March 16th 2012. He can't score for 22 games in a row now. What a terrific offensive talent!

Most fans believe his shoulder is still bothering him. He missed a game a couple of night ago because of it.

 

[stickguy]

JJ looked out of pace a few times , but overall him and Nikitin had a good game. They killed like a 100 Edmonton rushes and all what you've noticed is a couple of unperfect moves.
Nikitin is slow? But he always make right plays at the right time. He might not execute them perfectly, but he knows what he is doing on the ice for 25 minutes.
And Johnson was just a victim of Wiz's shape. Also I have no idea what you were thinking of him, but he was playing a decent game. That one-timer was hard to execute as well, you could see it.

I don't think JJ at -3 tonight would be considered a decent game or how a simple wrist shot would have been hard to execute? Thought I would look at the top 4 Dman +/- stats after 12 games for some other low point teams in the West. Calgary Flames top 4 Dmen are combined -6, LA Kings top 4 are combined -13, Avalanche top 4 dmen combined +1, Blue Jackets top 4 are a combined -21.

 

[Doug19]

First goal given up was because Wisniewski is awful defensively. Had nothing to do with anybody on the ice besides Wisniewski.

Second goal was bad defense by Johnson. Bad awareness by not picking up the trailer.

Third goal was an empty netter.

+/- is no indication of Johnson's play tonight.

 

[bizzz*]

I don't think JJ at -3 tonight would be considered a decent game or how a simple wrist shot would have been hard to execute? Thought I would look at the top 4 Dman +/- stats after 12 games for some other low point teams in the West. Calgary Flames top 4 Dmen are combined -6, LA Kings top 4 are combined -13, Avalanche top 4 dmen combined +1, Blue Jackets top 4 are a combined -21.

It doesn't matter how hard it was to execute a shot. That's just one play. JJ might have had a 1000 reasons to not take that shot and I don't want to go there. The problem is that 0.1 second length episode determines the whole level of his play.
How, how Johnson is responsible for any of the minuses he's got today? Someone invented stats line and others make it meaningful. You know, sometimes scoring on offence or stopping a shot on goal helps a bit. We're bad at it. Everyone knows it. Drew Doughty has the worst +/- in the NHL. Does that mean he's the worst defenseman in the NHL?

 

[MessierII]

Jackets played a good game tonight. Dubnyk had to stand on his head for us to squeak past you. Your team looks a lot better than I though.

 

[InjuredChoker]

What a frustrating game.

Should have win this one, would have been much deserved. Dubnyk played great.

Wiz didn't look good. Maybe he came back too soon. That second goal was a lot on him too. JJ might be playing too much out there but I guess it's still the best option.

This team needs finishers. Waiting for Cam.

 

[Double-Shift Lasse]

i disagree with both of you and I have no idea what's excellent about that post. .
JJ looked out of pace a few times , but overall him and Nikitin had a good game. They killed like a 100 Edmonton rushes and all what you've noticed is a couple of unperfect moves.
Nikitin is slow? Which Nikitin you've been watching for the past couple years? He's never been a good skater. And never will be. But he always make right plays at the right time. He might not execute them perfectly, but he knows what he is doing on the ice for 25 minutes.
And Johnson was just a victim of Wiz's shape. Also I have no idea what you were thinking of him, but he was playing a decent game. That one-timer was hard to execute as well, you could see it.

Nice job making excuses for both players playing poorly. And nice job attempting to defuse/dismiss others' critiques. It's BS for you to suggest I'm pulling out isolated instances, because that's exactly what I'm not doing.

Nikitin was slow even for himself last night. His play with the puck was weak. I'm growing tired of him trading passes behind our pown net with his partner intead of getting the puck up ice. He had a less-than-quality effort in last night's game.

The one-timer was tough because it was an "inside" pass, but he still should have been able to execute it. As others have said, the situation called for a wrist shot that Johnson, an NHL player, should have been able to execute. And on a team that struggles to score, that inability from one of supposedly its better players is magnified. Overall, his game was sketchy and inecisive, and it has been the last 3-4 games. Wiz was bad, sure - I didn't feel that needed to be said. But JJ was sub-par in his own right. The non-play on the shorty is just indicative of his overall play, not a deviation from it.

I mean... What's wrong with you, people of Columbus? The team held opposition to 13 shots and you come here to complain about defense? Am-fkng-azing.

So much wrong with this post. First, you must have ignored the part of my original post you quoted that called out RJ and Vinny for being bad. You want more? How about my post where I bemoan that the Jackets can't bang home a rebound? Two games in a row I've wondered why this is.

The Jackets gave up 14 shots in large part due to the amount of time spent in the Edmonton zone. Sure, the team gave up 13 shots, but surrended 2 goals on them. That's not good. It's the inverse "not good" of the offense not scoring more than once despite getting 40 shots.

 

[Double-Shift Lasse]

First goal given up was because Wisniewski is awful defensively. Had nothing to do with anybody on the ice besides Wisniewski.

At the risk of appearing to defend Wiz... you mean Bob not simply covering the puck had nothing to do with it?

 

[EspenK]

Hey, I know how to solve our scoring problems.....lets trade our best player, maybe we can get 2-3 good players for him so we can get consistent scoring across the board........:

Hey, we do have consistent scoring- no one has more than 4 goals.

 

[JacketsDavid]

Hey, I know how to solve our scoring problems.....lets trade our best player, maybe we can get 2-3 good players for him so we can get consistent scoring across the board........:

One issue. We couldn't score when we had Nash either.
I beleive in 12 seasons the only year we were near average in goal scored was season 2 - Sanderson and Whitney on lines 1&2 and Nash anchoring the 3rd line.

 

[Paisano*]

JBum, seriously, don't go there.

I know, I know.... It's just so frustrating watching this team year after year. We see other teams, St Louis, Pittsburgh, Chicago, etc who were worse than us just a few years ago are all now challenging for the top spot in the league while we continue to just wallow at the bottom.. Nothing ever works. How long before we become the next Atlanta?

 

[JacketsDavid]

I know, I know.... It's just so frustrating watching this team year after year. We see other teams, St Louis, Pittsburgh, Chicago, etc who were worse than us just a few years ago are all now challenging for the top spot in the league while we continue to just wallow at the bottom.. Nothing ever works. How long before we become the next Atlanta?

I'm still praying for a total house cleaning this offseason. I trust JD. But let's be honest what he has to work with is a front office hired by others, coaches hired by others, players picked by others.
I think with a good offseason (and assuming we get at least one top 3 pick) that we can get to 500 next season. Now like I said .500 is not good, but we've got to take that next step and that's it. And that is a big step for this franchise. Then maybe 2 more seasons - so best case scenario would be a playoff push in 2014-15 (would need a lot of peices to fall into place) but more than likely 2015-16.

 

[JACKETfan]

How is it that we keep changing the roster but still keep getting the same lack of scoring?

Last night reminded me of watching Jason Chimera.

Also reminded me of the importance of the need for BETTER goaltending, to give your team a chance.

 

[MattTheMask]

I'm going to say that Jack Johnson is not playing as well s we think he is, or thought he was, or we're giving him credit for based on his reputation (since arriving here). His delay on what should have been a one-timer cost a better scoring chance, and what the hell was he doing on the shorty? Those plays were the lowlights of a lackluster performance.

This. Excellent post

LOFT.

LOFT. I forgot about this acronym. But that's all you need to describe this team. Will start using more.

 

[MattTheMask]

The Jackets made a statement last night .......... And that statement is, Edmonton, We will NOT be denied the #1 pick this summer!! It belongs to us now!