Detroit Redwings Downfall

[Czechboy]

is redraft 2019-2024

If I'm being honest.. I did give it a quick look and you do make a good point here. As of today, not many guys have hit homeruns out of that group.

 

[VeteranPresence]

Good veterans don't typically sign one year deals and Detroit has made several good picks in the 2nd round over the past 3-4 years.

Would you like to try again?

No one has to "try again" when the Red Wings are bottom five again almost six years into Yzerman's tenure. You will maybe have a point when your team is sniffing the playoffs.

 

[FriendlyGhost92]

Of the vets he's brought in how many besides Kane have been 1 year deals? Guys like Chatfield, Ghost, Gudas, Dillon, Jensen, Kovacevic, Marino, Soucy, Chychrun were all available the past couple years on short to medium term deals and are better players than any of the veteran defenseman they've spent as much or more money on.

Those good picks (including 13!!! second rounders) have combined for 30 games and 8 points in the NHL outside the first round.

He undoubtedly took over a tough position and had no lottery luck whatsoever. That being said, he's done absolutely nothing -- whether it's pro scouting, amateur scouting, development, coaching hires, cap management -- to squeeze anything extra out of the hand he was dealt.

Your initial post whined about his moves this offseason. Now you're oddly shifting the goalposts to years past.

Nevermind your criticism about development while judging the success of recent 2nd round picks on NHL games played, as if rushing later round picks is a genius move.

Detroit holds their damn Top 10 picks way past the ready date and you think they're about rushing 2nd rounders?

No one has to "try again" when the Red Wings are bottom five again almost six years into Yzerman's tenure. You will maybe have a point when your team is sniffing the playoffs.

You will maybe have a point when their high end picks start busting.

Until then the guy literally came in on day one and said he's building through the draft and it would be a long process.

 

[Golden_Jet]

Detroit holds their damn Top 10 picks way past the ready date and you think they're about rushing 2nd rounders?

No apparently attaching a second to Walman, to get rid of him, is a better move.

 

[FriendlyGhost92]

No apparently attaching a second to Walman, to get rid of him, is a better move.

Wont get an argument from me there.

That being said, I was talking about was prospect development. Not sure how you think bringing up asset management and trades really negates the point.

 

[qc14]

Your initial post whined about his moves this offseason. Now you're oddly shifting the goalposts to years past.

All but two of the guys in my list were available this summer.

I actually think Yzerman's general strategy of bringing in veterans to bridge the gap and get more competitive while prospects over-ripen is sound. That only works though if you have good pro scouting and bring in the right veterans. Yzerman has consistently (including and especially this offseason) made poor pro scouting decisions and made moves for worse veterans in FA and in trades when acquiring better ones for similar prices were well within the realm of possibility. Unfortunately for him pro scouting is a massive part of a GM's job and he's missed on basically every single one of those moves except for Kane.

Even if their lottery luck turns around or some of the many late round picks eventually make an NHL impact, his deficiency in this specific aspect of the role is so large that it makes me skeptical he will ever be able to put together a playoff team, let alone a contender in Detroit.

 

[Stewie Griffin]

That being said, I was talking about was prospect development. Not sure how you think bringing up asset management and trades really negates the point.

The fact this even has to be said really says a lot lol