Confirmed with Link: Gabriel Vilardi signs 3-year ELC

RossLonsberryFan

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Absolutely no news on this guy? That's too bad.
I was always iffy on Vilardi until I saw him the Memorial Cup. What a beast he was.
Everyone complained about his skating, but he skated better than Debrincat.

The State of the Franchise is tonight. The Kings have to address Vilardi’s status tonight.
 

johnjm22

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Vilardi has a reputation as being a rink rat. A guy who loves the game and is always playing.

My concern is that after years of injury and rehab one can start to lose their love for the game. It can be depressing. We saw this recently with Andrew Luck and Rob Gronkowski.
 

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The State of the Franchise is tonight. The Kings have to address Vilardi’s status tonight.
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RossLonsberryFan

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Vilardi has a reputation as being a rink rat. A guy who loves the game and is always playing.

My concern is that after years of injury and rehab one can start to lose their love for the game. It can be depressing. We saw this recently with Andrew Luck and Rob Gronkowski.

I would be more concerned if he was playing through the pain by masking his symptoms with NSAIDS and/or opioids. I believe that shutting him down when he presented symptoms is actually going to potentially extend his career. And I hope that his healthcare providers clearly communicate that message.
 

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Finally, the recovery of Kings prospect Gabe Vilardi has...

“Things are progressing,” said Octagon Hockey’s Andy Scott, who is Vilardi’s agent. “With any injury, especially involving your back, it takes time to recover. He’s working through that. He’s doing a lot of mobility stuff.

“We think he’s going to make a full recovery.”

To that end, Vilardi has been spending the bulk of the summer in Ottawa, working with experts, and there has been an improvement in his condition, according to Scott.
 

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Yeah, I heard all this already with Scott Barney.

Not to mention ye olde Deadmarsh and Allison prognoses.

Villardi is dead to me as a prospect until the day he suits up in a real game and stays in the lineup for more than a week.
 
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Chazz Reinhold

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Yeah, I heard all this already with Scott Barney.

Not to mention ye olde Deadmarsh and Allison prognoses.

Villardi is dead to me as a prospect until the day he suits up in a real game and stays in the lineup for more than a week.

Yes, because past performance is a guarantee of future results. That's the saying, right?
 

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It's hopeful that there's an update from his agent, but he's theorizing saying "we think" he'll make a full recovery. It's cautious optimism, and we really don't know what could trigger his problems again, much less taking any kind of physical contact.

As Rob Blake added towards the end of that article:
“You could bend down wrong one day and tie your shoe and have it flare up,” Blake said in an interview with The Athletic.

“There was no specific item or specific thing that (led) to it. He just got up one day and was sore. … Our guys backed him off a little bit and he’s gone through the same rehab stage again.”

I'll start celebrating when I see the guy on the ice, but at least some light has been shed as to where he's been and what he's been up to. The mystery shrouding this guy and his recovery has led to a lot of doubts about his recovery. Fingers crossed this guy doesn't suffer any more setbacks because he's missed some valuable development time over the years.
 

Chazz Reinhold

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It's hopeful that there's an update from his agent, but he's theorizing saying "we think" he'll make a full recovery. It's cautious optimism, and we really don't know what could trigger his problems again, much less taking any kind of physical contact.

As Rob Blake added towards the end of that article:


I'll start celebrating when I see the guy on the ice, but at least some light has been shed as to where he's been and what he's been up to. The mystery shrouding this guy and his recovery has led to a lot of doubts about his recovery. Fingers crossed this guy doesn't suffer any more setbacks because he's missed some valuable development time over the years.

Just for the sake of completeness, that Blake quote you cite is from almost a year ago: "Blake spoke about Vilardi’s back issue almost a year ago just before the Kings’ preseason games." It's not something recent. We may have may timely statements from Blake tonight after the State of the Franchise.
 
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Ziggy Stardust

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Just for the sake of completeness, that Blake quote you cite is from almost a year ago: "Blake spoke about Vilardi’s back issue almost a year ago just before the Kings’ preseason games." It's not something recent. We may have may timely statements from Blake tonight after the State of the Franchise.

Right, it was in reference to what led to Vilardi missing an entire season from his development, as he cited that it wasn't one specific occurrence that caused this sudden flare up. That sounds like chronic issues.
 

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Ah, predictable responses to positive news.

"We think he's going to make a full recovery," emphasis on full, is a long f***ing way away from "his career is over" like earlier in this thread, yet some people still want to be miserable. Wallow all you want, but don't be upset at the people who are happy about what they hear.
 

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Ah, predictable responses to positive news.

"We think he's going to make a full recovery," emphasis on full, is a long ****ing way away from "his career is over" like earlier in this thread, yet some people still want to be miserable. Wallow all you want, but don't be upset at the people who are happy about what they hear.
What positive news? It's his agent guessing. I guarantee his agent would sell your mother to organ harvesters if he got the chance. I mean, I guess it's positive news that his agent is at least confirming he's not dead... so there's that.
 

Raccoon Jesus

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What positive news? It's his agent guessing. I guarantee his agent would sell your mother to organ harvesters if he got the chance.

"To that end, Vilardi has been spending the bulk of the summer in Ottawa, working with experts, and there has been an improvement in his condition, according to Scott."

Again, "both Scott and Dillman are lying" is the predictable, cynical response.
 

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"To that end, Vilardi has been spending the bulk of the summer in Ottawa, working with experts, and there has been an improvement in his condition, according to Scott."

Again, "both Scott and Dillman are lying" is the predictable, cynical response.

Sure, and saying"he's progressing but there's no timetable for his return" is the predictable, zero real information response.
 

Ziggy Stardust

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Which one is the biggest leap:
1. Reading the article word for word;
2. Suggesting the (credible) author and interviewees liars;
3. Cherry picking a quote from a year ago to make a different point?

Did you read this quote from Dillman?

"Restrained optimism might be the best way to describe it."

I guess you failed to read the cautious optimism approach that I'm taking.

Continue on with your overdramatization.
 

Raccoon Jesus

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Did you read this quote from Dillman?

"Restrained optimism might be the best way to describe it."

I guess you failed to read the cautious optimism approach that I'm taking.

Continue on with your overdramatization.

If the shoe doesn't fit, you don't have to wear it. Cautious optimism is fine. "He's dead to me until he's on the ice in a Kings uniform" isn't cautious optimism.
 

Ziggy Stardust

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If the shoe doesn't fit, you don't have to wear it. Cautious optimism is fine. "He's dead to me until he's on the ice in a Kings uniform" isn't cautious optimism.

It's more like, I'm not getting my hopes up until I see him skating.

How long have you been around? You remember the names of Adam Deadmarsh and Jason Allison and how "they'll be ready by November" then it changed to "they'll be ready by Christmas" and so on and so forth. We've heard all this lip service before. We've seen prospects get hamstrung and see their careers derailed due to injuries, like Scott Barney and Scott Parse (and it certainly didn't help Jonny Brodzinski).

There are plenty of reasons why this latest blurb from Vilardi's agent who "thinks he'll make a full recovery" is still a ways away from "he's ready to take the ice."
 

Bandit

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If the shoe doesn't fit, you don't have to wear it. Cautious optimism is fine. "He's dead to me until he's on the ice in a Kings uniform" isn't cautious optimism.
What exactly is wrong with that approach? Saying you're not counting on someone to build you a house until they can prove they can at least swing a hammer seems pretty reasonable to me.
 

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I think it's more the shitting on people who emphasize the "optimism" over the "cautious" that rubs the wrong way. I get saying a player is "dead to me" until they play again, but it doesn't mean that player is actually dead.
 
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King'sPawn

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Of course it's damage control from the agent. I'm more optimistic there's something other than "holding pattern, no news" about him.
 
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