Confirmed with Link: Gaborik (with 50% Retained) to Kings for Frattin, 2nd, and conditional 3rd

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I think it's addition by subtraction. I would have liked to see them get more help on D. But, Gabby didn't create anything and we weren't as strong when he was in the lineup. People forced passes his way instead of shooting themselves.

Everyone seems to have the mindset of NHL '95 for Sega, load it up with goal scorers and they have to work together, well he didn't work or work hard.

We just went 3-1-0 with him back in the lineup. Try finding some shred of evidence "he didn't work or work hard"
 

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We just went 3-1-0 with him back in the lineup. Try finding some shred of evidence "he didn't work or work hard"

Did you watch the games?? He was invisible, his goal was lucky, landed in his lap. He took 3 TOTAL shots in 3 games and had one SECONDARY assist. I was at the Toronto game and he wasn't dangerous even once. Is he not supposed to be "an elite scorer?" Shouldn't such a player get 4-5 shots a game? Earlier in the year he went shotless in a weekend home and home with Pitt. He just didn't skate hard, go to the hard areas or go hard to the net, period. LA didn't trade for what he has been with Cbus, they traded, like we did, for what they hope to be the Gaborik of 5 years ago. They will be disappointed...
 

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Did you watch the games?? He was invisible, his goal was lucky, landed in his lap. He took 3 TOTAL shots in 3 games and had one SECONDARY assist. I was at the Toronto game and he wasn't dangerous even once. Is he not supposed to be "an elite scorer?" Shouldn't such a player get 4-5 shots a game? Earlier in the year he went shotless in a weekend home and home with Pitt. He just didn't skate hard, go to the hard areas or go hard to the net, period. LA didn't trade for what he has been with Cbus, they traded, like we did, for what they hope to be the Gaborik of 5 years ago. They will be disappointed...

You think you're fighting the conventional wisdom on this, but Gaborik isn't an "elite scorer" anymore, and I don't know many who still have great hopes for him. Put the straw man down.
 

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Did you watch the games?? He was invisible, his goal was lucky, landed in his lap. He took 3 TOTAL shots in 3 games and had one SECONDARY assist. I was at the Toronto game and he wasn't dangerous even once. Is he not supposed to be "an elite scorer?" Shouldn't such a player get 4-5 shots a game? Earlier in the year he went shotless in a weekend home and home with Pitt. He just didn't skate hard, go to the hard areas or go hard to the net, period. LA didn't trade for what he has been with Cbus, they traded, like we did, for what they hope to be the Gaborik of 5 years ago. They will be disappointed...

Your bashing Gaborik for scoring a goal and getting a secondary assist tells me all I need to know
 

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Sounds like Gaborik wasn't exactly Jarmo's favorite player. Says trade was a mistake, takes responsibility for it
 

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Howson got crushed when he traded Carter - for what turned out to be a great return.

Jarmo trades his star offensive acquisition for a horrible return, and nothing but praise all around

Obviously, with Carters term a better return was possible, but still.
 

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Howson got crushed when he traded Carter - for what turned out to be a great return.

Jarmo trades his star offensive acquisition for a horrible return, and nothing but praise all around

Obviously, with Carters term a better return was possible, but still.

Not sure where you're seeing all this praise. I see a lot of disappointment. Take off your blinders.
 

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Are the Blue Jackets better today? If I'm a Blue Jacket fan, today is what counts now, there's been enough of waiting for tomorrow. What do you guys say?
 

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Howson got crushed when he traded Carter - for what turned out to be a great return.

Jarmo trades his star offensive acquisition for a horrible return, and nothing but praise all around

Obviously, with Carters term a better return was possible, but still.

WHo is praising Jarmo? Jarmo isn't, he just manned up and said he blew it. I agree, but he got what he could for Gaborik. He said so. So???? What is the issue? You want to crucify Jarmo and JD? Would you be happier if they "put their mark" on the club and blew it all up? Jarmo said he blew it. JD may be taking credit for where they are now, so what? I don't care who gets the credit, just win.

All I know is that we are in the hunt, as a fan, I am happy. Will it work? Who knows? I am enjoying the ride. It sure beats what the alternatives have been for this club
 

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Are the Blue Jackets better today? If I'm a Blue Jacket fan, today is what counts now, there's been enough of waiting for tomorrow. What do you guys say?

We, unequivocally, did not get better today. Did we get worse? Depends on who you ask. I think we got worse simply by not keeping pace with the moves that were made by teams around us in the standings.
 

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Sounds like Gaborik wasn't exactly Jarmo's favorite player. Says trade was a mistake, takes responsibility for it

Heck, I said that over the summer and got slammed.... :)

To be honest I would have kept him after he got an assist last night but it is what it is....
 

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Are the Blue Jackets better today? If I'm a Blue Jacket fan, today is what counts now, there's been enough of waiting for tomorrow. What do you guys say?

For the purposes of this season, no, we're worse off. All but 2-3 fans want to make the playoffs and I'd argue that hoping that Gaborik could stay healthy and plot 7-8 goals for the rest of the season>>>>>>>>Matt Frattin+a 2nd

(I think we could have got a 3rd for his rights before the draft)
 

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We, unequivocally, did not get better today. Did we get worse? Depends on who you ask. I think we got worse simply by not keeping pace with the moves that were made by teams around us in the standings.

Yes, at the very minimum, it looks bad because of the moves that both the Rangers and Caps made. Disappointed really. But, let's hope your Jackets can just keep moving forward.
 

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Are the Blue Jackets better today? If I'm a Blue Jacket fan, today is what counts now, there's been enough of waiting for tomorrow. What do you guys say?

I agree with DJ.... it was a blah day.... That said I'm on record as saying doing nothing today would be ok.

The Jackets are in good shape to make a playoff push with one concern-the injuries to Tyutin and Murray... Without them and a top four including Jack Johnson and Wisneiwski we could be in trouble, Bob better get ready for some action.
 

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For the purposes of this season, no, we're worse off. All but 2-3 fans want to make the playoffs and I'd argue that hoping that Gaborik could stay healthy and plot 7-8 goals for the rest of the season>>>>>>>>Matt Frattin+a 2nd

(I think we could have got a 3rd for his rights before the draft)

I'm not sticking up for Jarmo, he can speak for himself. However, while we may be "worse off" we won without Gabby and he may think that we can win without him, so pick up assets where he can seeing as Gabby won't be back
 

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Does anyone know what the conditions are for the 3rd rounder? Games played? How far LA goes in the playoffs? What?


Frozen Royalty ‏@frozenroyalty 2m
Conditions on 3rd round pick in Gaborik deal: #LAKings give up pick IF they re-sign him OR if they get past first round of the playoffs.
 

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Howson got crushed when he traded Carter - for what turned out to be a great return.

Jarmo trades his star offensive acquisition for a horrible return, and nothing but praise all around

Obviously, with Carters term a better return was possible, but still.
I'd prefer to call Gaborik a declining, injury prone floater than a star offensive forward, considering how he played this year.
 

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I do appreciate Jarmo for manning up to his mistake. But with his first big trade being a flop and his first big signing struggling (although he's getting a small pass from me because he's still getting his legs and is still new to the system) I am beginning to worry about his GMing abilities. He hasn't had one 'good' trade get. Although he did get good contracts to cam Calvert Letestu and bob.
 

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