Confirmed with Link: Gaborik (with 50% Retained) to Kings for Frattin, 2nd, and conditional 3rd

[alphafox]

The carter and gaborik situations are completely different. Just because both ended up on the kings doesn't mean the the circumstances were remotely the same.

Howson got destroyed for the carter trade for not doing his research on carter which led to the complete and utter disaster of that season.

The Gaborik trade was a high risk high reward gamble from the start. Is the end return disappointing, probably, but we traded spare parts and a promising prospect for a 40 goal scorer. That 40 goal scorer never showed up So we cut bait and got what we could for a guy who wasn't helping us win.

 

[CBJWerenski8]

What happened with the %? What did we take back

 

[EdwardG]

So we're praising the Scott Howson who gave us all the bad FA signings? Did the CBJ develop anyone under him? The big thing I've noticed this year is that players have actually improved from last year.

Gaborik was a disappointment, but it's not like we gave up much for him. I think the Nash trade has turned out quite well; it's helped change the environment. Didn't the current mgmt make that deal? Let's give it another year before judging the Horton deal after a few months. I remember after Year 1 of the Juice and Commie deals how those seemed like good deals.

 

[bizzz*]

I do appreciate Jarmo for manning up to his mistake. But with his first big trade being a flop and his first big signing struggling (although he's getting a small pass from me because he's still getting his legs and is still new to the system) I am beginning to worry about his GMing abilities. He hasn't had one 'good' trade get. Although he did get good contracts to cam Calvert Letestu and bob.

Scott Howson didn't make a single trade that would have required him to man up for his mistake. He was a GM for 6 years. I don't want a GM who admits his mistakes, I wanna GM who doesn't make them.

the Carter trade wasn't Howson's initiative and he rebounded pretty well afterwards, Kekkalainen just blew his it

 

[IBleedUnionBlue]

Jarmo's "Says trade was a mistake, takes responsibility for it"

Jarmo " just manned up and said he blew it.

Didnt hear conference, but I agree. This was a bad deal. Heck, several of us said as much last year when the deal was done.

 

[Jorge]

WHo is praising Jarmo? Jarmo isn't, he just manned up and said he blew it. I agree, but he got what he could for Gaborik. He said so. So???? What is the issue? You want to crucify Jarmo and JD? Would you be happier if they "put their mark" on the club and blew it all up? Jarmo said he blew it. JD may be taking credit for where they are now, so what? I don't care who gets the credit, just win.

All I know is that we are in the hunt, as a fan, I am happy. Will it work? Who knows? I am enjoying the ride. It sure beats what the alternatives have been for this club

Agree. With injuries and age it's hard for a know-nothing like me to picture Goborik being much of a factor down the stretch, even in L.A. where I assume they'll ask for goals and nothing else. I think as the month goes on we are going to see the team play it's best, most consistent offensive hockey of the season, so I'm worried about the current state of the defense more than the return for Gaborik. He certainly wasn't going to be re-signed this summer, right?

 

[CBJWerenski8]

Scott Howson didn't make a single trade that would have required him to man up for his mistake. He was a GM for 6 years. I don't want a GM who admits his mistakes, I wanna GM who doesn't make them.

the Carter trade wasn't Howson's initiative and he rebounded pretty well afterwards, Kekkalainen just blew his it

Howson did make mistakes. The first carter trade, the mason and brass contracts, and the glencross trade. Sure not quite at the magnatude of a Gaborik except maybe the carter one that he rebounded from, but it's not like the gaborik trade is a castrophy

 

[NotWendell]

What happened with the %? What did we take back

Half of what's remaining for the season.

 

[Beukeboom Fan]

Always a closet Jackets fan.

Was Gaborik playing so poorly when he came back from the collarbone that it was worth moving him for a couple of marginal picks & some roster filler? I would think that it would have been better to see if he got hot come play-off time, unless he was really struggling or a distraction in the room.

 

[DJA]

Gaborik was a disappointment, but it's not like we gave up much for him. I think the Nash trade has turned out quite well; it's helped change the environment. Didn't the current mgmt make that deal?

No, that was Howson.

 

[CBJfan4evr]

Howson did make mistakes. The first carter trade, the mason and brass contracts, and the glencross trade. Sure not quite at the magnatude of a Gaborik except maybe the carter one that he rebounded from, but it's not like the gaborik trade is a castrophy

End of the day this is still Howson's team sans Horton. Waiting for Jarmo to impress me.

 

[CBJWerenski8]

End of the day this is still Howson's team sans Horton. Waiting for Jarmo to impress me.

Agree and very early indications aren't promising

 

[jackets4life]

Still don't understand why everyone is so upset. Was I missing some amazing stuff Gaborik was doing out there or something? In my opinion, other than his "chemistry with Anisimov", we were better off when he wasn't on the ice floating around. Cut your losses and move on. Tomorrow is a new day. Also, remember that Boone Jenner was a 2nd round pick. I think I value draft picks more than a lot of people on here do, but I trust Jarmo's track record with drafts and think he could turn that pick (potentially 2) into something nice for us this summer, either in a trade or by simply picking.

This team can win without Gaborik, bottom line. Better to salvage something than let him walk. Would have rather had Skille or Comeau out there last night anyways. To me, it's irrelevant if Frattin does anything for us or not.

 

[bizzz*]

Howson did make mistakes. The first carter trade, the mason and brass contracts, and the glencross trade. Sure not quite at the magnatude of a Gaborik except maybe the carter one that he rebounded from, but it's not like the gaborik trade is a castrophy

Howson didn't want to make the original Carter trade. That was Priest who wanted another star on the team. Howson just had to clean that mess.
Mason's and Brassard's contracts weren't that bad, they were traded away by Kekkalainen.
Glencross was a bad trade? He was upcoming UFA and wasn't doing a lot for the Jackets. They needed a d-man for the PP and got another upcoming UFA in Tarnstrom. That was positional trade of upcoming free agents.

 

[ca5150]

Your bashing Gaborik for scoring a goal and getting a secondary assist tells me all I need to know

He didn't produce, he didn't create scoring chances to the level we needed and expected. Period

 

[NotWendell]

Howson didn't want to make the original Carter trade. That was Priest who wanted another star on the team. Howson just had to clean that mess.
Mason's and Brassard's contracts weren't that bad, they were traded away by Kekkalainen.
Glencross was a bad trade? He was upcoming UFA and wasn't doing a lot for the Jackets. They needed a d-man for the PP and got another upcoming UFA in Tarnstrom. That was positional trade of upcoming free agents.

You were going good until the end. Glencross for Tarmstrom was a turrible trade. No way to sugar coat that mess.

 

[DJA]

the second round pick has a whole ****load of conditions that Portzline is now droning on about on Twitter if you care to read it

 

[Crede777]

Justin Bourne's take (from Backhand Shelf):

http://blogs.thescore.com/nhl/2014/...rik-may-not-be-the-fit-the-kings-think-he-is/

This is absolutely right in my opinion.

The best move would have either to improve the team right now or to do nothing at all. Shouldn't have traded for Gaborik last year, but shouldn't have traded him away this year. Like it or not, a recent GM of ours refused to trade a guy away until he got something he wanted. I think that would have been the wise move here (just using it as an example, don't want to bring up a pissing contest). If you can't get a decent return for him, don't move him.

 

[bizzz*]

You were going good until the end. Glencross for Tarmstrom was a turrible trade. No way to sugar coat that mess.

Glencross had whopping 6 goals in 43 games for the Jackets, he was upcoming UFA and wanted to go back home to Alberta. He would have walked away for free if he wasn't traded. There was no way he wold have resigned with the Jackets. The Jackets needed help on the PP and tried to use Tarnstrom in that role, it didn't work out, but no one would have traded anything significant for upcoming UFA with 6 goals scored that season. Get real here, people.

 

[KINGS17]

Nice doing business with you guys. Hope both teams got something they need.

For the Kings it's low risk/high reward potential.

 

[Timeless Winter]

Awful return Jarmo, ouch.

 

[CBJfan4evr]

I agree with Justin Bourne.

Me too!

 

[jetbluejackets]

Gabby had whopping 9 goals in 34 games for the Jackets, he was upcoming UFA He would have walked away for free if he wasn't traded. There was no way we wold have resigned him with the Jackets. The Jackets needed help on offense and tried to use Gabby in that role, it didn't work out, but no one would have traded anything significant for upcoming UFA with 6 goals scored this season. Get real here, people.

edited for relevance to today

 

[ClevelandJacketFan]

Gaborik's play pretty much set the value of what we got. That said, we made too aggressive a move last year with Gabby and now we have assets lost.

Looking at it without context, I still say we got fair value. But the fact that we aren't replacing Gaborik with another Top 6 player is frustrating and the overall talent of the team went down today.

Not a good day, Jarmo.

 

[cbj21]

lazy, soft, floating, amazing player that didn't do that much for us that I will miss him.
I will miss the idea of him though.