Confirmed with Link: Gaborik, Delisle, Parlett to CBJ for Brassard, Dorsett, J. Moore and 6th Round Pick

[Hunter Gathers]

The only "reason" is that his shoulder still isn't 100%, and that could quite possibly be the case.

Other than that, there is no other excuse.

Exactly. It's just him playing poor if he's not at 100%. And if he's not at 100%, then that's another reason to cut bait (because it just means that he's still not healed after an entire offseason!).

 

[LaffyTaffyNYR]

Sather knew he blew it when he didnt add to the team in the off season after acquring Nash so he had no depth. now he does have depth, at the expense of a goal scorer (having a bad year).. It's like Rick nash has taken the place of Gaborik.. Its rick Nash + 24 or whatever

 

[Ola]

How many contracts do we have? 52?

Edit: didn't see the throw-ins up until now...

 

[NYR Viper]

Sather would have never "let" Gaborik walk for nothing after next season. Never.

He didn't. And thats a good thing, no?

 

[Hunter Gathers]

Sather knew he blew it when he didnt add to the team in the off season after acquring Nash so he had no depth. now he does have depth, at the expense of a goal scorer (having a bad year).. It's like Rick nash has taken the place of Gaborik.. Its rick Nash + 24 or whatever

Before you post again, I would like you to answer the post I made to you a bit ago.

 

[schabadoo]

While giving up our leading scorer from last year in the process.

Going from first to fifth in scoring makes us... score more goals?

JAM.

I know, I can't believe they traded them straight up...

 

[cd211]

I'm so pissed. SO PISSED. Can't score? Trade your 40 goal scorer! To a team that will be in our own division next year! AWESOME!

What ever happened to the two year window with Nash AND GABORIK???!!!!

I love Gabby. First Dubinsky and Anisimov and now Gaborik? My heart can't take it.

our 40g scorer isnt even scoring so... wish we got Dubi back would have been happy with dubi+moore or dubi+ 1st but you guys want this guy gone and we're thinking we're getting kesler, Yandle, Horquist, Wilson Blum and 1st.. come on this guy hasn't been playing all year.. i bet he forced slats hand to trade him and he fielded calls and this was the best trade scenario.. i bet the 29 other gms wanted this guy, but the returns sucked.. but looking at this on paper and we basically traded 3 players+1st for players for 4 players back.. unbelievable.. gabs wasnt our core, wasn't happy obviously being here so **** it.. dont let the door hit ya on the way out..

we got to stop making all these changes tho.. we're never going to be successful turning over half our roster every ****en year..

 

[Ail]

Name me more than 3-4 third line centers in the league who consistently put up 40-45 pts.

Why are you quoting me here? I'm talking about upside. His upside isn't a 3C, his supposed "upside" is a 2C. Which he is not.

He will make a pretty good 3C, most likely. That's it.

 

[Hunter Gathers]

How many contracts do we have? 52?

50, now, Ola. We sent them two ECHLers along with Gabby.

 

[InvalidBeard]

well zucc will probably be gone next year and hopefully boyle and pyatt so i would hopefully they will fill in. Hopefully Torts doesnt keep screwing up their development

Why is Zucc gone next year? I'm hoping for/expecting an extension.

 

[Ail]

He didn't. And thats a good thing, no?

Yes, I just don't agree with the return.

It could be worse yes, but I think he could have also done better.

 

[Ceff Jarter]

Thank you for all the good wishes in our thread!

You will love Dorsett. He's a great teammate and can put the puck in the net. Brassard has elite vision but his production was never able to match it. Haven't seen much of Moore but I know he is highly regarded by many CBJ fans.

I think this trades makes both teams better

 

[Matt4776]

What spot was Gaborik in this year on this team? What does Gaborik do when he is not scoring?

What does Brassard do? Win FOs?

 

[Richter Scale]

Easily? That's some crystal-balling if you ask me. What if Clowe doesn't score 20+ goals ever again? What if Brassard remains a 40-45 point center?

Addition is hard. Using their career #s and playing it conservative:

Clowe (Avg'd 20.5 g/82): Assume 15.
Brassard (Avg is 17.5 g/82): Assume 15.
Dorsett (Avg is 9 g/82): I'm assuming 10.

The only one I'm being optimistic on is Dorsett; but by comparison I'm pretty significantly low-balling the other two so in my mind it evens out. This really isn't that much of a reach.

 

[NYR Viper]

Yes, I just don't agree with the return.

It could be worse yes, but I think he could have also done better.

I think it is on par with what a player like him will return. He is a 1 dimensional player with a 7.5 million dollar price-tag.

The great thing about this as well is that they didn't take back a big money contract. Cap space is an asset as well.

 

[schabadoo]

Why is Zucc gone next year? I'm hoping for/expecting an extension.

Me too. Team could use his offensive skills.

 

[Vinny]

Disgusted by this move.

 

[Ail]

Addition is hard. Using their career #s and playing it conservative:

Clowe (Avg'd 20.5 g/82): Assume 15.
Brassard (Avg is 17.5 g/82): Assume 15.
Dorsett (Avg is 9 g/82): I'm assuming 10.

The only one I'm being optimistic on is Dorsett; but by comparison I'm pretty significantly low-balling the other two so in my mind it evens out. This really isn't that much of a reach.

Notice the word assume you used 3 times. You can keep assuming, and I'll wait until next year before eating my crow thank you very much.

 

[RangersFan]

this trade is almost as painful as listening to fatcesa talk hockey

 

[Riverdale]

Why is Zucc gone next year? I'm hoping for/expecting an extension.

Well, its fairly obvious that Torts isn't looking for players like Zucc, no?

 

[NYR Viper]

Jeff Rimer ‏@jrimercbj 2m
Just talked to Brassard Moore and Dorsett as they boarded a private plane to head to New York. Both Brassard and Moore will play4 #NYR 2nite

Very good news

 

[Hunter Gathers]

What does Brassard do? Win FOs?

He puts up the same amount of points for a **** ton less. How's that?

 

[NYR Viper]

Well, its fairly obvious that Torts isn't looking for players like Zucc, no?

No. It's fairly obvious Torts wants some players who can play a rough style, as well as some skill players, no? Look at TB.

 

[ImIdaho]

Love Wilder. Great clip.

One legit constant? Girardi, Staal, MDZ, Stepan, Callahan are the core guys who have stayed here. McD, Hagelin, Nash are the newer additions.

Losing Lisin, Gomez, Drury and Naslund were addition by subtraction IMO not to mention those moves happened years ago. AA and Dubi were traded for the guy who's been carrying the offense all year.

If losing deadweight and players with crippling contracts is instituting a revolving door policy, I'm all for that policy.

Also, I'd bet anything that if the team missing the playoffs this year and starts flat next year, Torts will not keep his job. I think that's a rational way to deal with the coaching situation also.

Only one player has remained with this team since the lockout resumed and that's Lundqvist. We didn't pony up to Jagr because we had over $22 million tied up to Drury, Gomez, and Lundy. We let our true legitimate puck carrier and goal scorer walk and what we were left with was..blegh.

I wouldn't be surprised if we let Girardi walk and Staal ends up going to Carolina, unless he really, really loves NY.

No, the rational thing to do is scrutinize the coach and look what he's done with this team since coming here. That ECF last year, that was the anomaly. We've been a playoff bubble team since he's taken over the reigns..and that's where we are right now! It only gets worse when you realize the main headed Hydra is still in his office drowning in his scotch and sucking on his cigars.

Again, the best part about this season? We don't qualify into the playoffs and we help another team build up it's own arsenal.

 

[Hunter Gathers]

Very good news