Confirmed with Link: Gaborik, Delisle, Parlett to CBJ for Brassard, Dorsett, J. Moore and 6th Round Pick

[blue2noise]

Yes.

Brassard is a 26 year old center who has not yet broken 50 points, and is currently on pace for ~43 points.

Which would put him 5th on the team in scoring least year and around 4th on the team in scoring this year.

 

[nyranger61494]

I know people are going to disagree with me, but I personally believe most of this gets prevented with Prust staying in the off-season.

I think this was always going to be the sentiment this season and probably next season for Prust. The Rangers were wise not to give Prust the term he was looking for and eventually, received. People are talking up Prust's influence because we did not bring in a player(s) that even remotely compare to him style-wise. Let's see what the sentiment is now after these moves. May have to wait until beginning of next season, but let's see.

 

[Greg02]

I feel like with this trade and the Nash trade, we ended up with a similar team makeup to last year- but these aren't our players. Last year our depth was homegrown, this year it's all acquired through trade. It shouldn't make a difference, but it does (to me).

 

[Ail]

- The combination of Clowe, Brassard, Dorsett easily gets 40 goals per 82.
- A team that will be very tough to play against in the playoffs next year.
- Oh, and you get 1.7 extra cap space and a lot of flexibility moving forward.


Yea, all that sucks. Awful trade.

Easily? That's some crystal-balling if you ask me. What if Clowe doesn't score 20+ goals ever again? What if Brassard remains a 40-45 point center?

Toughness is good, work ethic is good, but so is scoring goals which I am not convinced will happen much going forward.

I'm not upset with moving Gaborik, just the return. Should have waited until the draft, and got a 1st/prospect, or 1st/roster player. Yes his cap hit is a lot to take on, but a guy who could score 40g looks a lot more appealing to a lot more teams during the off-season than a slumping snake-bitten former 40g scorer at the trade deadline.

 

[RangersFan]

One thing is for sure:

Torts is goin nowhere.

let's at least pray the clock is on him now truly. these are clearly moves inspired by his decree. if his players don't produce and win in his "system" the blame will rest with him.

 

[Zamboner]

I kind of like the balance of this lineup:
Hagelin-Stepan-Nash
Clowe-Richards-Zucc
Powe-Brassard-Callahan
Asham(/Dorsett)-Boyle-Pyatt

I am not sure where Kreider, JT Miller, Fasth and Lindberg will fit in though...

Tortorella will never put Cally on the 3rd line. I have my doubts Boyle will ever get less than Top 9 minutes.

 

[Ryan McDonut]

One thing is for sure:

Torts is goin nowhere.

one of the worst things that could be true

 

[Ola]

Brassard is 2nd on their team in points getting 2nd/3rd line ice time. 2nd.

I get it if you don't know Dorsett as a player. You will have to wait and see if you don't trust me.

Moore played RD in Columbus.

We are obviously not going to agree here.

But the bolded part don't fly.

Brassard could suprise people. I am not calling it, more the opposite, but I am not ruling it out.

I definitely think Dorsett will help, but at the same time, we gotta give him time to settle in and we are supposed to compete now. I like Dorsett. In 5 years time, he could be the "new" Chris Neil.

But Moore is just not going to become a good offensiveminded RIGHT D here in NY. Its an emergency solution at best. And on the PP we need a right shot, nothing else.

 

[Mikos87]

Smooth-skating, young bottom-pairing defender. Definitely in the the puck-mover category due to his puck carrying ability and skating. Was VERY raw when he was drafted, still is a bit. Probably has top-4 upside. Only 22.

Also had a one and done year in the OHL where he had a lot of hype. Then he went to CLB minor pros as a 19 yearold defenseman, sort of like Miller. Should finally physically be closer to being developed, and is a very good skater. Guessing he and McIlrath spend some quality time together in HFD.

 

[NYRKing]

Hearing a lot of 'salary dump, not getting a 1st, and Moore is the prize' but what are we getting with Brassard? A lot of experts on the main board are ripping Brassard, but Voracek was a 40 point guy and he's a point per game contributor now with the flyers.

I really do not know much about Brassard outside of he was at one point a highly touted play-maker. It's interesting to note we were targeting Brassard either last year or a year before via trade, so I can't help but think management is expecting some bigger things than most expect....hopefully.

 

[Jabroni]

Hope he makes it.

Would like to see him tonight.

Also, for those of you saying Torts is staying, you're absolutely right.

Dorsett and Clowe are Torts players no doubt, and Gaby is gone mostly likely because Torts had a say in that as well.

 

[NYR Viper]

But the bolded part don't fly.

Brassard could suprise people. I am not calling it, more the opposite, but I am not ruling it out.

I definitely think Dorsett will help, but at the same time, we gotta give him time to settle in and we are supposed to compete now.

But Moore is just not going to become a good offensiveminded RIGHT D here in NY. Its an emergency solution at best. And on the PP we need a right shot, nothing else.

This whole trade is about more than the next 12 games of this season. That's the whole point of this trade. The Rangers took an asset that would have walked for nothing at the end of next season and who was not performing and turned him into (3) valuable pieces that will be around.

 

[Hunter Gathers]

Uhhh.....how about major offseason shoulder surgery, which notoriously saps a players power and strength. Even when Gabby played poorly in the past, he didn't look like this. Last game was one of the only times I saw him get off a few of his classic low snap shots. His legs are fine, he just doesn't play well injured.

I'm on fire. This makes me hate Richard's 1000x more, which I didn't think was possible.

Good. So we've finally moved off of Torts. Gabby had an ENTIRE offseason to heal. I have to think that the shoulder surgery is going to hurt his game for the rest of his career. This is what I was trying to get at. Gaborik, I think, is damaged goods. He lost a lot of his speed when he had the hip/groin issues. He now lost a lot of the snap in his shot with the shoulder issues.

So no. His legs are not fine. He has nowhere near the jump he used to. He's still a relatively fast player (compared to the rest of the league), but not at all the same gamebreakingly fast guy.

So, as we can see, injuries have piled up over his career and are now coming to roost. It was time to cut bait.

 

[haveandare]

Prust, Fedotenko, Anisimov, Dubinsky, Parenteau, Lisin, Gomez, Drury, Naslund, Jagr, and now Gaborik. With this team, there has only been one true legitimate constant and that's Lundqvist.

And if this **** fails..Torts - in all likelihood - keeps his job and we get:



Only addition with this team is by subtraction with Richards. Columbus gets a threat in Gaborik and still get 3 mother****ing 1st round picks!

Love Wilder. Great clip.

One legit constant? Girardi, Staal, MDZ, Stepan, Callahan are the core guys who have stayed here. McD, Hagelin, Nash are the newer additions.

Losing Lisin, Gomez, Drury and Naslund were addition by subtraction IMO not to mention those moves happened years ago. AA and Dubi were traded for the guy who's been carrying the offense all year.

If losing deadweight and players with crippling contracts is instituting a revolving door policy, I'm all for that policy.

Also, I'd bet anything that if the team missing the playoffs this year and starts flat next year, Torts will not keep his job. I think that's a rational way to deal with the coaching situation also.

 

[Matt4776]

Which would put him 5th on the team in scoring least year and around 4th on the team in scoring this year.

While giving up our leading scorer from last year in the process.

Going from first to fifth in scoring makes us... score more goals?

JAM.

 

[Zamboner]

It's not inaccurate to say three guys will score >/= than Gaborik. But in the playoffs, you want the one guy that can do it alone. Remember? Didn't we all agree about this last year in the playoffs?

 

[nyranger61494]

Did you follow the team last year? I am serious with that question. You do understand that Gabby scored 40 last year, right? You do know that Torts was his coach last year, right? You do know our system has not changed much, right?

So, I will re-present the question since you did not get it. What is Gabby's excuse this year for his attrocious play? Do not say Torts, because that's not the answer (except to the people who have no answers -- and I am sure you'd want to avoid being lumped into that group).

Rangers were 11th in goals scored last year, too. 11th. Testify Jon!!! I'm with you here!!! Rangers succeed in spite of Torts and struggle because of him.

 

[Ail]

Again: Clowe was hurt. What's Gabby's excuse?

Don't worry. I'll wait. I'm sure it will start with T and end with orts. The answer for everything when you don't really have an answer for anything.

I've never blamed Torts for Gaborik playing like crap. I don't think it was wise to put him on his off wing when he was uncomfortable there, but that's no excuse for his lack of effort most games.

I don't know what his problem was this year, and I don't care. The point is, you can't say one will return to form and the other is done for. They're the same age.

I don't like the return and they need to make me eat crow, agree to disagree.

 

[Richter Scale]

40-45 point center is more accurate.

Again, for a 40 goal scorer, we got a mediocre second liner/decent third liner, a good fourth liner, and a 3rd pairing defenseman with the potential to be a second (even though he'll never be one on our team).

Thank you!

Stop talking about the guys non-existent "upside."

Name me more than 3-4 third line centers in the league who consistently put up 40-45 pts.

 

[Jabroni]

Did you follow the team last year? I am serious with that question. You do understand that Gabby scored 40 last year, right? You do know that Torts was his coach last year, right? You do know our system has not changed much, right?

So, I will re-present the question since you did not get it. What is Gabby's excuse this year for his attrocious play? Do not say Torts, because that's not the answer (except to the people who have no answers -- and I am sure you'd want to avoid being lumped into that group).

The only "reason" is that his shoulder still isn't 100%, and that could quite possibly be the case.

Other than that, there is no other excuse.

 

[schabadoo]

you guys counting on brassard to surprise and suddenly break out here are in for a rude awakening.

How will he ever fill the shoes of a Rangers 3rd line center?

 

[Ail]

This whole trade is about more than the next 12 games of this season. That's the whole point of this trade. The Rangers took an asset that would have walked for nothing at the end of next season and who was not performing and turned him into (3) valuable pieces that will be around.

Sather would have never "let" Gaborik walk for nothing after next season. Never.

 

[NYR Viper]

While giving up our leading scorer from last year in the process.

Going from first to fifth in scoring makes us... score more goals?

JAM.

What spot was Gaborik in this year on this team? What does Gaborik do when he is not scoring?

 

[NikC]

The luxury of Marian Gaborik isn't needed. The paper doll is gone. It's not just his streakiness that even when healthy that worried me, it's just that he's also streaky health wise. What good is a sniper that can't stay healthy 2 seasons in a row, or maintain health for the playoffs?

I appreciate what Gaborik has done here, but at this point it's time to cut our losses.

It Seems like the NYR were always high on Brassard, so i hope they're right on this one. Not crazy about Dorsett being injured and not available. I assume Moore will be ready to play in our 3rd pairing Friday?

 

[MrHockey80]

Always liked Gabby

Amazed at this trade for a team that struggles to score goals

In simple terms in almost the same number of games

Gabby 333 goals and plus 84 career

Moore Dorrsett and Brassard combined 87 goals and a mind numbing minus 126 career

I'm just wondering how NY replaces the scoring differential ????