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I'm not blaming Rossi, or dissing him, I'm just saying that he hasn't used the time he's been given all that well, yet. It doesn't matter why. If his confidence is shot, he's not ready yet and more NHL time may only hurt it further. He didn't do anything wrong, but he also didn't do anything that was all that good, so if he isn't able to affect the play that much, he's probably not ready yet.

Or, maybe this was just a bad game, or he had jitters, and he'll improve from here out. Like you said, he hasn't had a long opportunity yet, so we don't really know. But if he needs Iowa time, he needs it. That doesn't make him a bust or anything.
I just hope the coaches communicate with him. He said he had no idea why he was benched and scratched. If he ends up sitting again, they need to tell him why and what they expect from him......work with the kid.
 
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Man, Boldy looks good. Addison is better than i thought, too. No major screwups defensively, and is fast, efficient, and creative with the puck in the O zone. Mentally, he's playing at NHL speed, and playing well. I'm a bit surprised. He looked quite good in the AHL, but also was careless and lacking in detail and discipline at times.

Crazy thought, but is it possible that Guerin and Dean know what they are doing when it comes to bringing along prospects?
 
Boldy fanned the puck on a couple of great shooting opportunities, to me it looks like he's trying too hard. Hopefully he'll relax a bit more after a few more games.

Rossi...meh.
 
Man, Boldy looks good. Addison is better than i thought, too. No major screwups defensively, and is fast, efficient, and creative with the puck in the O zone. Mentally, he's playing at NHL speed, and playing well. I'm a bit surprised. He looked quite good in the AHL, but also was careless and lacking in detail and discipline at times.

Crazy thought, but is it possible that Guerin and Dean know what they are doing when it comes to bringing along prospects?
My main worry with Rossi is actually that the raw material isn't there for him to be what the organization kinda needs him to be. I said the team losing made the tolerances low with Rossi, but it works both ways: if he doesn't pan out as a top-6 center they don't really have a Plan B beyond what they've failed to do for about a decade (acquiring a center via trade/free agency).

I don't think this has been a good start for either the team or the player, but I'll give them both 40 games before I come to any conclusions. Watching Boldy and Addison does make me lean toward giving the team the benefit of the doubt for now.*

*And I guess even Duhaime, Dewar and Shaw, who have been pretty good relative to expectations.
 
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I'm not blaming Rossi, or dissing him, I'm just saying that he hasn't used the time he's been given all that well, yet. It doesn't matter why. If his confidence is shot, he's not ready yet and more NHL time may only hurt it further. He didn't do anything wrong, but he also didn't do anything that was all that good, so if he isn't able to affect the play that much, he's probably not ready yet.

Or, maybe this was just a bad game, or he had jitters, and he'll improve from here out. Like you said, he hasn't had a long opportunity yet, so we don't really know. But if he needs Iowa time, he needs it. That doesn't make him a bust or anything.
I agree that you're not dissing Rossi. Neither do I defend his performances. I'm just saying that how Evason has handled the kid so far isn't a real opportunity for any player to succeed in the NHL, especially as Rookie.

Rossi is averaging about 7 Minutes TOI so far and he was sitting in the press box VS. Avs. This isn't a real shot making a difference for any hockey player especially after the good preseason he's had.

But I'm all for it: Send him down to Iowa onto the top line. He needs minutes and confidence. He won't get that with Evason as HC and 7 minutes TOI.
 
I agree that you're not dissing Rossi. Neither do I defend his performances. I'm just saying that how Evason has handled the kid so far isn't a real opportunity for any player to get used to the NHL, especially as Rookie.

Rossi is averaging about 7 Minutes TOI so far and he was sitting in the press box VS. Avs. This isn't a real shot making a difference for any hockey player especially after the good preseason he's had.

But I'm all for it: Send him down to Iowa onto the top line. He needs minutes and confidence. He won't get rhat with Evason as HC and 7 minutes TOI.
Usually you need to face the NHL, then go back down, then back up till you get it right. It's not a life sentence for him to go down to the AHL, or a sure thing that he stays in the NHL if he comes up.

Completely normal for a young player unless you are a freak like McDavid or Mackinnon.
 
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Rossi is going to be fine eventually... but if they are going to continue to limit his TOI or scratch him they need to just man up and send him back down to IA. Not doing him or the team any favors at this point.
 
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Can no longer blame it on the coach.

Tonight Rossi was given a great opportunity to show that he belongs here, he didn't grab it.
So I agree with those who think he'll be sent down, looks like he's not ready for the NHL yet. Yes he was good in preseason, but then it wasn't for real with less pressure, and he didn't play against the tougher opponents.
 
I was as big on Rossi as anyone but at this point I think it's foolish to hope he'll be anything more than a 2C at his peak at the rate he's going. Most 1Cs have shown more than what we're seeing from him at his age.

We just need one lottery pick over the next couple years and a little luck. Assuming our D prospects pan out alright and we luck into one of them being a 1D.
 
Can no longer blame it on the coach.

Tonight Rossi was given a great opportunity to show that he belongs here, he didn't grab it.
So I agree with those who think he'll be sent down, looks like he's not ready for the NHL yet. Yes he was good in preseason, but then it wasn't for real with less pressure, and he didn't play against the tougher opponents.
I agree with all of those who are saying they should send Rossi down. It makes no sense for him playing in the bottom 6 averaging 7 minutes TOI or sitting in the Press box. Let him play on the top line in Iowa.....

I'm just arguing that I wouldn't call those 4 games an opportunity for the kid. Because it wasn't. To summarize his "opportunity" so far this season: 2 games on the 4th line. One game sitting in the press box. One game benched in the 3rd period. Average TOI about 7 minutes. In my book that isn't a real opportunity.
 
I'm just arguing that I wouldn't call those 5 games an opportunity for the kid. Because it wasn't. To summarize his "opportunity" so far this season: 2 games on the 4th line. One game sitting in the press box. One game benched in the 3rd period. Average TOI about 7 minutes. In my book that isn't a real opportunity.
Repeating it, because it needs to be said louder for those in the cheap seats.
 
Can no longer blame it on the coach.

Tonight Rossi was given a great opportunity to show that he belongs here, he didn't grab it.
So I agree with those who think he'll be sent down, looks like he's not ready for the NHL yet. Yes he was good in preseason, but then it wasn't for real with less pressure, and he didn't play against the tougher opponents.
Bloody ridiculous. You don't judge someone off of 11 minutes of play unless he does something terrible, which he did not.

Development is not about telling a rookie to be brilliant right away, or go down. You need to encourage, and treat mistakes as learning moments. Only idiots think that rookies come into the league fully formed.
 
Can no longer blame it on the coach.

Tonight Rossi was given a great opportunity to show that he belongs here, he didn't grab it.
So I agree with those who think he'll be sent down, looks like he's not ready for the NHL yet. Yes he was good in preseason, but then it wasn't for real with less pressure, and he didn't play against the tougher opponents.
It was ONE game with Boldy. Just one game.
 
Bloody ridiculous. You don't judge someone off of 11 minutes of play unless he does something terrible, which he did not.

Development is not about telling a rookie to be brilliant right away, or go down. You need to encourage, and treat mistakes as learning moments. Only idiots think that rookies come into the league fully formed.
Heck, Hartman was way worse.
 
Giving up field goals instead of touchdowns is a start: I 'm not even a football fan.

Here's hoping Rossi isn't Corey Locke 2.0
 
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I thought Duhaime had a low key, good game. Hartman was better, too. No stupid penalties.
 
I agree with all of those who are saying they should send Rossi down. It makes no sense for him playing in the bottom 6 averaging 7 minutes TOI or sitting in the Press box. Let him play on the top line in Iowa.....

I'm just arguing that I wouldn't call those 4 games an opportunity for the kid. Because it wasn't. To summarize his "opportunity" so far this season: 2 games on the 4th line. One game sitting in the press box. One game benched in the 3rd period. Average TOI about 7 minutes. In my book that isn't a real opportunity.
If Rossi played well tonight he wouldn't be benched again, it's that simple :rolleyes:

Yes he did get a special opportunity tonight, was moved up in the lineup and got to play with Boldy, it obviously didn't help. Even worse, the better player got 4th line duty because of this, Steel who scored.
 
Rossi was fine. He just needs to be given some rope and allowed to settle in and that line will be buzzing by Thanksgiving.

Addison is razor sharp on the PP. Suter, Dumba & Spurgeon never had it humming like this.
 
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